Re: getting more out of man pages with less(1) (was: [bug #59962] soelim(1) man page uses pic diagram--should it?)

2021-05-17 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 17 May 11:50 -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > Maybe less's build system has a switch to compile in a different > default? Maybe this is a recent change? Maybe I'm completely wrong? > I haven't looked at the source or built it myself from github; I'm > going by the behavior on my systems, beh

RE: Is decreasing top margin with mm macros broken?

2021-05-17 Thread Jeff Conrad
On Monday, May 17, 2021 1:05 PM, James K. Lowden wrote > Does anyone how to decrease the top margin with mm macros? > > There is VM macro that is supposed to change it, however it > > has no effect on the top margin, when one wants to decrease > > it. Looks like the top margin can only be increas

Re: Is decreasing top margin with mm macros broken?

2021-05-17 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> Does anyone how to decrease the top margin with mm macros? > There is VM macro that is supposed to change it, however it > has no effect on the top margin, when one wants to decrease > it. Looks like the top margin can only be increased. This is possibly a bug. In groff's mm, the option -T *

Re: man-intro (was: getting more out of man pages with less(1) )

2021-05-17 Thread James K. Lowden
On Mon, 17 May 2021 16:24:34 +1200 "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" wrote: > > Maybe Michael or Alejandro can advise regarding where they think a > > good place for a man page utilization tutorial would be. > > If any place, I think intro(1) would be most appropriate, or, > failing that, an initial

Is decreasing top margin with mm macros broken?

2021-05-17 Thread Michał Kruszewski via
Does anyone how to decrease the top margin with mm macros? There is VM macro that is supposed to change it, however it has no effect on the top margin, when one wants to decrease it. I have tried multiple values, both with and without the '-T' option. It works on the bottom margin, but the top mar

Re: Not predefined Extended Latin character needed, interesting solution found

2021-05-17 Thread Deri
On Monday, 17 May 2021 17:58:26 BST Oliver Corff wrote: > Hi Deri, > > On 17/05/2021 17:00, Deri wrote: > > printf '.ft U-TR\n\xc4\x8cSSR' | groff -kT pdf | okular - > > on my installation (groff 1.22.4) there is no U-TR font out of the box, > and thus I only get these two warnings: > > troff: :

Re: Not predefined Extended Latin character needed, interesting solution found

2021-05-17 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi Deri, On 17/05/2021 17:00, Deri wrote: printf '.ft U-TR\n\xc4\x8cSSR' | groff -kT pdf | okular - on my installation (groff 1.22.4) there is no U-TR font out of the box, and thus I only get these two warnings: troff: :1: warning: can't find font 'U-TR' troff: :2: warning: can't find special

Re: getting more out of man pages with less(1) (was: [bug #59962] soelim(1) man page uses pic diagram--should it?)

2021-05-17 Thread Dave Kemper
On 5/16/21, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2021-05-16T20:29:30-0500, Dave Kemper wrote: >> less's default is for searches to be case-sensitive. Its -i option >> (which can be given on the command line or while less is running) is >> what activates the behavior described above. A user or a distr

Re: Not predefined Extended Latin character needed, interesting solution found

2021-05-17 Thread Deri
On Monday, 17 May 2021 14:47:02 BST Oliver Corff wrote: > Hi Ingo, > > that's interesting. When producing for a UTF8 target, your observation > is correct, but for PDF groff does not seem to function as naively assumed. > Groff needs to know you have a font which includes a Ccaron glyph, so thi

Re: Not predefined Extended Latin character needed, interesting solution found

2021-05-17 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi Ingo, that's interesting. When producing for a UTF8 target, your observation is correct, but for PDF groff does not seem to function as naively assumed. When I write U+010C (as a character, or in escape form doesn't matter), my installation produces an "Ä" (A umlaut). Try printf '\xc4\x8cSS

Re: Not predefined Extended Latin character needed, interesting solution found

2021-05-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Oliver, Oliver Corff wrote on Sat, May 15, 2021 at 11:39:31PM +0200: > I try to use the correct abbreviation for the former Czechoslovak > Socialist Republic, which is U+010C SSR (C + hacek, caron, wedge). > The first attempt (enter Unicode 0x010C directly, leaving everything to > preconv(1),