Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Clarke Echols
Twenty years ago, I used troff to create camera-ready artwork for a double-sided printed circuit card for a product I was designing the control electronics and bar-graph display for. The product was awarded "Top 20 new automotive service tools of the year" in Motor Magazine for 1997. (Alas, th

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Doug McIlroy
While I didn't look at the sample page, I bethought myself how one might go about setting up the fairly stereotyped NYT editorial page. Yes, I could copy the page quite exactly, but that would be something like hand-setting the lines. How would one handle the weird column layout of the Letter secti

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Robert Thorsby wrote: Groff works very close to the metal so, in broad terms, it can do anything because you are not fettered by unavoidable "presets". In fact, although groff has many presets and default values that are designed to make life easier for the user, they can

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: Well the sample is meaningless; I searched for a "desktop publishing" image and chose that one at random as a reasonably complex example of what I had in mind. Good typography is one of the reasons I am hoping to standardize on *roff. It's going to be a l

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: > > Would I consider tackling the illustrated page? No way, my > > sense of responsible typography forbids it. > > Well the sample is meaningless; I searched for a "desktop publishing" > image and chose that one at random as a reasonably complex example o

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016, Gerard Lally wrote: > Is it possible to lay out a page, as in the attached sample file, > using *roff? I'm about to commit myself to learning troff and friends > more thoroughly. Before I start I'd like to have a broad idea of its > limitations. It's all doable with groff. T

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Gerard Lally
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, at 22:40, Robert Thorsby wrote: > On 24/10/16 08:26:36, Gerard Lally wrote: > > Well the sample is meaningless; I searched for a "desktop publishing" > > image and chose that one at random as a reasonably complex example of > > what I had in mind. Good typography is one of

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Gerard Lally
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, at 21:28, ted.hard...@wlandres.net wrote: > On 23-Oct-2016 18:52:41 Gerard Lally wrote: > > Is it possible to lay out a page, as in the attached sample file, > > using *roff? I'm about to commit myself to learning troff and friends > > more thoroughly. Before I start I'd like t

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 24/10/16 08:26:36, Gerard Lally wrote: Well the sample is meaningless; I searched for a "desktop publishing" image and chose that one at random as a reasonably complex example of what I had in mind. Good typography is one of the reasons I am hoping to standardize on *roff. It's going to b

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Gerard Lally
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, at 21:21, Robert Thorsby wrote: > On 24/10/16 05:52:41, Gerard Lally wrote: > > Is it possible to lay out a page, as in the attached sample file, > > using *roff? I'm about to commit myself to learning troff and friends > > more thoroughly. Before I start I'd like to have a

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Ted Harding
On 23-Oct-2016 18:52:41 Gerard Lally wrote: > Is it possible to lay out a page, as in the attached sample file, > using *roff? I'm about to commit myself to learning troff and friends > more thoroughly. Before I start I'd like to have a broad idea of its > limitations. > > I don't need a how-to, d

Re: [Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 24/10/16 05:52:41, Gerard Lally wrote: Is it possible to lay out a page, as in the attached sample file, using *roff? I'm about to commit myself to learning troff and friends more thoroughly. Before I start I'd like to have a broad idea of its limitations. I don't need a how-to, detaile

[Groff] *roff for desktop publishing - is it feasible?

2016-10-23 Thread Gerard Lally
Is it possible to lay out a page, as in the attached sample file, using *roff? I'm about to commit myself to learning troff and friends more thoroughly. Before I start I'd like to have a broad idea of its limitations. I don't need a how-to, detailed or otherwise, showing the steps you'd take to pr