Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> This was always an annoyance in CVS; with the recent migration to > git, now would probably be a good time to drop the generated > configure file from the repository. I suggest to do that as soon as someone is going to convert everything to automake. Werner

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Keith Marshall
On 12/03/14 22:06, Ralph Corderoy wrote: >>> It is a very good principle to put only real source files into a git >>> repository, and no generated files. I will continue so. My >>> successor might make a different decision, though. >> >> Sure, that is your decision. > > It's also long-standing n

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> Instead, you might contribute a patch to implement a >>> `--without-doc' configure switch that completely disables the >>> generation of documentation files. :-) > > Really? Yes. > Why would somebody ever want to build a piece of software without > the documentation belonging to it? To be

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Steffen, > > It is a very good principle to put only real source files into a git > > repository, and no generated files. I will continue so. My > > successor might make a different decision, though. > > Sure, that is your decision. It's also long-standing normal practice. It's a real pain

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Really? Why would somebody ever want to build a piece of software > without the documentation belonging to it? Documentation is an > integral part of software, and without the proper documentation, > almost any software is next to useless. If you alre

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Hello Ingo, Ingo Schwarze wrote: |Hi, | |Steffen Nurpmeso wrote on Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 08:59:29PM +0100: |> Werner LEMBERG wrote: | |>> Instead, you might contribute a patch to implement a |>> `--without-doc' configure switch that completely disables the |>> generation of documentation

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote on Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 08:59:29PM +0100: > Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> Instead, you might contribute a patch to implement a >> `--without-doc' configure switch that completely disables the >> generation of documentation files. :-) Really? Why would somebody ever want t

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Peter Schaffter wrote: |On Wed, Mar 12, 2014, Werner Lemberg wrote: |>> Would it make sense to send a patch that does this if at the end of |>> all the conditions there is still no `gnu.eps'? |> |> No, thanks. Instead, you might contribute a patch to implement a |> `--without-doc' configur

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Werner LEMBERG wrote: |>|installed to build the info files, or `autoconf' to generate the |>|configure script. People who check out from the git *must* have |>|all |> |> Hah! I was really thankful that the generated `configure' became |> part of the git(1) repo -- *thank you* for this de

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014, Werner Lemberg wrote: > > Would it make sense to send a patch that does this if at the end of > > all the conditions there is still no `gnu.eps'? > > No, thanks. Instead, you might contribute a patch to implement a > `--without-doc' configure switch that completely disables

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014, Werner Lemberg wrote: > It is a very good principle to put only real source files into a git > repository, and no generated files. I will continue so. My successor > might make a different decision, though. I'm behind Werner on this. > > E.g., if i would be a MOM user i su

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> |installed to build the info files, or `autoconf' to generate the > |configure script. People who check out from the git *must* have > |all > > Hah! I was really thankful that the generated `configure' became > part of the git(1) repo -- *thank you* for this decision! Well, I consider thi

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Werner LEMBERG wrote: |> ...and no chance to take advantage of git(1) compressing it's |> blobs, which is what i was indeed referring to? The bitmap seems |> to be unchanged from the first check-in until today (and i can't |> imagine that someone wants to change that one, too). | |It is a v

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> ...and no chance to take advantage of git(1) compressing it's > blobs, which is what i was indeed referring to? The bitmap seems > to be unchanged from the first check-in until today (and i can't > imagine that someone wants to change that one, too). It is a very good principle to put only rea

Re: [Groff] Tiny make patch: avoid Netpbm dependency

2014-03-12 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Hello, Werner LEMBERG wrote: |> for me the dependency upon Netpbm is "annoying"; i always restart |> failed makes to get over all related problems: like that |> (single-threaded) compilation is just fine. | |With the distributed tarballs, there is *no* dependency on Netpbm! This may be so,