Re: [Groff] error handling if Perl is not suitable

2013-04-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> It would make sense to install this Perl error handling at a single > space somewhere in the configure place. > > Has anyone an idea how this could be made or where one can learn how > to do this. The current configure test for perl should be extended to abort if perl isn't found. Werner

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Please don't change this friendly current situation. >> >> It is really a terrible thing that many projects do no longer / not >> ship a self-contained repository, but one that requires an immense >> amount of utilities just to create a runnable configure script. > > configure would *always* be

Re: [Groff] error handling if Perl is not suitable

2013-04-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> have_perl: > @command -v perl || ( echo "need perl" >&2; exit 1 ) > > Add that to the Makefile and make have_perl a prerequisite for some > early target. Nice, but... > Would that do what you want? no. The test for perl should be at configure time, not runtime. Werner

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Keith Marshall
On 13/04/13 22:12, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: Keith Marshall wrote: |On 13/04/13 14:52, Werner LEMBERG wrote: |>> Any comments? | |Some projects do commit configure, others don't. IMO, it is better if |it is*not* committed, but IIRC it has been there, in groff's CVS, for |as lon

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Bernd Warken
> Thanks for your expansion of `.cvsignore'. But the `autom4te.cache' > subdirectory is still created for me, though without data files. It just > has an usual CVS subdirectory. > > I'm not sure if that's only for me. Then it should be possible to kill > it with `~/.autom4te'. > > But if it is

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Bernd, Bernd Warken wrote on Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 05:55:43PM +0200: > Werner Lemberg wrote: >> Bernd Warken wrote: >>> I ran `autoconf'. There was a subdirectory `autom4te.cache/' >>> created. First I just deleted it. >> This directory and its contents is *always* intermediate! It just >>

Re: [Groff] error handling if Perl is not suitable

2013-04-13 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "James K. Lowden" > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:48:49 +0200 (CEST) > "Bernd Warken" wrote: > > > It would make sense to install this Perl error handling at a single > > space somewhere in the configure place. > > > > Has anyone an idea how this could be made or where one can learn how > > t

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Daode
Keith Marshall wrote: |On 13/04/13 14:52, Werner LEMBERG wrote: |>> Any comments? | |Some projects do commit configure, others don't. IMO, it is better if |it is *not* committed, but IIRC it has been there, in groff's CVS, for |as long as I've been associated with the project. I would be

Re: [Groff] error handling if Perl is not suitable

2013-04-13 Thread James K. Lowden
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:48:49 +0200 (CEST) "Bernd Warken" wrote: > It would make sense to install this Perl error handling at a single > space somewhere in the configure place. > > Has anyone an idea how this could be made or where one can learn how > to do this. have_perl: @command -v p

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Keith Marshall" > > Sure, you may keep your autom4te.cache around, for you own future use, > but please don't "queer the pitch" for others, by polluting CVS with > this local host specific data. Thanks for your expansion of `.cvsignore'. But the `autom4te.cache' subdirectory is still

Re: [Groff] Using variables from register within fractions or equations

2013-04-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi maouinin, > Here is the entirety of the macro supplied by Tadziu Hoffmann in the > original thread. Did Tadziu intend you to write .Q movies . with any needed punctuation supplied as a second parameter, as is common in some macro sets? I see .Y refers to $2. Cheers, Ralph.

Re: [Groff] Using variables from register within fractions or equations

2013-04-13 Thread maouinin
Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > > I didn't notice anything from a quick look. I think I'd need a small, > self-contained, complete, example of the fault that I could runoff. > >> \h'\\n[w]u'\v'1m'\\*[n]\v'-1m'\h'\\n[w]u'\\$2\x'1m'\x'-1m' > > > Sorry. The thread is over a year old. Here is the

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Keith Marshall
On 13/04/13 18:38, Bernd Warken wrote: So it seems to be not as bad as it seemed to be. It can be kept for further runs of `autotools', for example if someone will do `automake'. 1) We don't use automake; the only autotool we do use is autoconf. 2) Whatever content you accumulate in *your* lo

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Bernd Warken" > > Von: "Werner LEMBERG" > > > > > I ran `autoconf'. There was a subdirectory `autom4te.cache/' > > > created. First I just deleted it. > > > > This directory and its contents is *always* intermediate! It just > > speeds up the execution of the autoconf tools. Actually,

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Werner LEMBERG" > > > I ran `autoconf'. There was a subdirectory `autom4te.cache/' > > created. First I just deleted it. > > This directory and its contents is *always* intermediate! It just > speeds up the execution of the autoconf tools. Actually, the > `configure' script itself sh

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Keith Marshall
On 13/04/13 14:52, Werner LEMBERG wrote: I ran `autoconf'. There was a subdirectory `autom4te.cache/' created. First I just deleted it. This is correct. Then I learned that `autoreconf' is the better `autoconf' because it automatically calls all necessary `autotools'. But `autoreconf' al

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I ran `autoconf'. There was a subdirectory `autom4te.cache/' > created. First I just deleted it. This is correct. > Then I learned that `autoreconf' is the better `autoconf' because it > automatically calls all necessary `autotools'. But `autoreconf' also > creates the subdirectory `autom4t

[Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Bernd Warken
I ran `autoconf'. There was a subdirectory `autom4te.cache/' created. First I just deleted it. Then I learned that `autoreconf' is the better `autoconf' because it automatically calls all necessary `autotools'. But `autoreconf' also creates the subdirectory `autom4te.cache/'. I learned that thi

Re: [Groff] Using variables from register within fractions or equations

2013-04-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi maouinin, > In mode 1, the blanks, etc. are printed and followed by whatever > punctuation is present. However in modes 2 and 3, I am unable to get > the punctuation to print. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. I didn't notice anything from a quick look. I think I'd need a small