Re: [Groff] Groff editor.

2007-08-21 Thread Clarke Echols
When I was a technical writer and learning products engineer at Hewlett-Packard, one of the big challenges was to get writers to understand *structure* instead of *appearance*. They would gut hung up, especially in HTML, over instead of or instead of , not understanding the difference between a

Re: [Groff] German quotation marks in ms

2007-08-21 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Axel Kielhorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Use whichever is most acceptable! There is a very slight difference > > between \[Bq] and ,, : to get ,, to be exactly like \[Bq] you must > > > > a) Move the first "," leftwards by pointsize*0.0012 points > > b) Then move the second leftwards by points

Re: [Groff] German quotation marks in ms

2007-08-21 Thread Ted Harding
On 21-Aug-07 19:57:46, Axel Kielhorn wrote: >> You can achieve the same with your \[Bq] with the macro >> >> .de smartq >> .ds dblq0 \(Bq >> .ds dblq1 \(rq > ^ this should be lq >> .nr dblqn 0 >> .char " *[dblqn[dblqn]]\\R'dblqn (1 - n[dblqn])' >> .. >> >> The one point to

Re: [Groff] German quotation marks in ms

2007-08-21 Thread Axel Kielhorn
Thanks Ted and Joerg! Use whichever is most acceptable! There is a very slight difference between \[Bq] and ,, : to get ,, to be exactly like \[Bq] you must a) Move the first "," leftwards by pointsize*0.0012 points b) Then move the second leftwards by pointsize*0.002 points. I don't think th

Re: [Groff] parsing a corner specification

2007-08-21 Thread Nick Stoughton
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 18:16 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > .PS > A: circle "A" > B: A .left > circle "B" at B > .PE > > Is there a known implementation of pic which does it the way > Joel Denny expects (i.e. as in "B: A left")? Certainly none I've ever used ... I'd write this as .PS

Re: [Groff] parsing a corner specification

2007-08-21 Thread Ted Harding
On 21-Aug-07 16:14:58, Keith Marshall wrote: > On Tuesday 21 August 2007 06:42, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> Well, it seems that you've hit a behaviour which is (a) quite obscure >> since there has never been a report about it, > > Perhaps because the expression in question is not just obscure, but is

Re: [Groff] parsing a corner specification

2007-08-21 Thread Keith Marshall
On Tuesday 21 August 2007 06:42, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > Well, it seems that you've hit a behaviour which is (a) quite obscure > since there has never been a report about it, Perhaps because the expression in question is not just obscure, but is rather unnatural. Given the preceding .PS A:

Re: [Groff] Groff editor.

2007-08-21 Thread Keith Marshall
On Monday 20 August 2007 19:03, Meg McRoberts wrote: > you have to create a PostScript file ... Actually, you don't. > and then convert the ps file to PDF: > >   groff -mandoc -st > .ps >   ps2pdf .ps .pdf groff -mandoc -st | ps2pdf - .pdf will have exactly the same ultimate effect, witho

[Groff] RE: Groff editor.

2007-08-21 Thread karee
There are some tools on www.snake.net/software which can convert troff2rtf and rtf2troff. I hope they work for the groff too, may be i can use it ? any suggestions ? Thanks, Srini Meg McRoberts wrote: > > My current job requires writing long, highly-technical documents in > Word and it is ab

Re: [Groff] German quotation marks in ms

2007-08-21 Thread Joerg van den Hoff
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 02:31:34PM +0200, Axel Kielhorn wrote: > Hi! > > I'm writing a german document in ms and I'm wondering about the best > way to enter quotation marks. > > Should I > .ds Q \(Bq > .ds U \(lq > and use > \*Q \*U? > > or can I simply use ,,and''? > > The later is much easie

RE: [Groff] German quotation marks in ms

2007-08-21 Thread Ted Harding
On 19-Aug-07 12:31:34, Axel Kielhorn wrote: > Hi! > > I'm writing a german document in ms and I'm wondering about the best > way to enter quotation marks. > > Should I > .ds Q \(Bq > .ds U \(lq > and use > \*Q \*U? > > or can I simply use ,,and''? > > The later is much easier to type (and read

[Groff] German quotation marks in ms

2007-08-21 Thread Axel Kielhorn
Hi! I'm writing a german document in ms and I'm wondering about the best way to enter quotation marks. Should I .ds Q \(Bq .ds U \(lq and use \*Q \*U? or can I simply use ,,and''? The later is much easier to type (and read) and the result looks the same. Axel