Some comments on groff and all the requests regarding document
formats, and compatibility. One of the things I like about roff,
is that it is focused on a pretty unique area of use: print manuals
and documents. The introduction of pdfroff has long been needed,
but I think that only shows my point
For my editing work I also use joe, not emacs :-) But the built-in
Lisp interpreter of emacs allows to do mighty things...
This brings up a funny story from when I first started as chief
webmaster. There's several files on fencepost (there used to be
*lots* of files, including on the FTP se
Comments (and patches!) to improve this are highly welcome.
I'm all ears (or eyes, as the case may be).
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> I've been fiddling with OpenOffice lately. It's not a beauty, but it's
> sturdy and does a pretty good job importing & exporting Word
> files. I've literally had cases where OpenOffice had better luck
> with a seriously gnarly Word file than did Word itself.
In this context, I consider OpenOffic
There's a CVS repository for the UTP -- which isn't publicly available
currently for unfortunate reasons. This should be moved into the
public again -- IIRC, Larry McVoy has offered this a longer time ago.
It's up to Larry Koller to proceed since he was (and hopefully still
is) the driving for
Clarke Echols wrote:
... By learning to use the tools, and
nothing more complicated than simple shell scripts (I don't
have the skills to get fancy because I don't think they're all
that necessary when an easier approach works well), I was
able to consistently get more done than any 4-10 peopl
Working down the backlog...
I spend my days writing large, complex, highly-technical
documents in Word for this reason. It's quite ugly, but
we have to have documents that sales people and engineers
and such can extract and "repurpose"... And young engineers
don't know how to roff any more tha
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On Wed, Oct 19, 2005, Alejandro López-Valencia wrote:
> On 10/19/05, Jon Snader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 10:14:28AM +0100, Keith MARSHALL wrote:
> > >
> > > I've tried various editors in my time, Emacs among them. But, I
> > > keep going back to vi, (or (g)vim), for p
On 10/19/05, Jon Snader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 10:14:28AM +0100, Keith MARSHALL wrote:
> >
> > I've tried various editors in my time, Emacs among them. But, I
> > keep going back to vi, (or (g)vim), for personal choice.
> >
>
> In the end, there can be only one.
Chri
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:23:43PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > For me a much better documentation would be enough, [...]
>
> Have you actually looked at groff.texinfo? A pdf-Version can be found at
>
> http://groff.ffii.org/groff/groff-1.19.2.pdf
>
> Comments (and patches!) to improve th
On 10/19/05, Gabriel Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> About troff and GUI's may be it is interesting to you to take a look at:
> http://www.hps.com/~tpg/toolbox/auis/ez-wp/
Gabriel,
you are reading me wrong. .-) I am far more interested in having troff
available as a proper back end for S
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On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 10:14:28AM +0100, Keith MARSHALL wrote:
>
> I've tried various editors in my time, Emacs among them. But, I
> keep going back to vi, (or (g)vim), for personal choice.
>
In the end, there can be only one.
jcs
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> > This is related to the general editing capabilities of Emacs which
> > are superior to most other editors.
>
> Oh, oh. This looks like an invitation to start a religious war,
> (which I *don't* want to get into). :-)
OK, OK!
> I've tried various editors in my time, Emacs among them. But,
> For me a much better documentation would be enough, [...]
Have you actually looked at groff.texinfo? A pdf-Version can be found at
http://groff.ffii.org/groff/groff-1.19.2.pdf
Comments (and patches!) to improve this are highly welcome.
Werner
I wonder if anyone has put any consideration into developing an
XSL-FO to groff converter?
I maintain an XSLT stylesheet for generating man-page output from
DocBook XML source documents that contain Refentry elements. It is
included in the DocBook XSL stylesheets distribution (in the
"manpages" di
Begin forwarded message:
From: Miklos Somogyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 October 2005 7:53:47 PM
To: Jim Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: groff@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Groff] PS and "page background"
On 19/10/2005, at 6:07 PM, Jim Reid wrote:
On Oct 19, 2005, at 03:28, Miklos Somogyi wrote:
On 19/10/2005, at 6:07 PM, Jim Reid wrote:
On Oct 19, 2005, at 03:28, Miklos Somogyi wrote:
Bernd, thank you very much for the idea. I'll try when I'll have X
windows.
I would like to install Tiger and the the whole X environment on my
Mac, but
I wait until I am sure that Tiger and "termi
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On 19/10/2005, at 6:07 PM, Jim Reid wrote:
On Oct 19, 2005, at 03:28, Miklos Somogyi wrote:
Bernd, thank you very much for the idea. I'll try when I'll have X
windows.
I would like to install Tiger and the the whole X environment on my
Mac, but
I wait until I am sure that Tiger and "termi
Werner Lemberg wrote:
> This is related to the general editing capabilities of Emacs
> which are superior to most other editors.
Oh, oh. This looks like an invitation to start a religious war,
(which I *don't* want to get into). :-)
I've tried various editors in my time, Emacs among them. But,
On 19-Oct-05 Miklos Somogyi wrote:
> [...]
> If troff and Co is to survive, then changes are necessary.
> No use to tell managers to lean on engineers to use proper tools.
> They would rather lean on someone who wants something else,
> not a PC.
>
> To close it with an appropriate joke:
>
> The
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Werner Lemberg wrote:
>> In the case of SGR sequences, unless the user specifically uses
>> the `--enable-sgr' option, [...]
>
> Keith, maybe you've sent this as a private mail to David ...
Not intentionally. Looks like I hit "Reply" instead of "Reply-to-All",
forgetting that groff list mailings
Bernd Warken wrote:
> The easiest way to use Postscript is `groffer' with the option
> `--ps'. A viewer is started automatically if you are in X Window.
> Try things like
>
> groffer --ps some_roff_file
>
> for viewing in a Postscript viewer or
>
> groffer --pdf some_roff_file
>
> for viewing i
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About troff and GUI's may be it is interesting to you to take a look at:
http://www.hps.com/~tpg/toolbox/auis/ez-wp/
It is supposed to have a troff backend.
Gabriel
2005/10/19, Alejandro López-Valencia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On 10/18/05, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> >
> > > I knew making SGR t
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