Dear Friends,
As I've mentioned in the past, Mail Archive is alive and well in most
respects. The one exceptions is customer support, for which I am
regretfully and woefully behind.
The service is hosted in the United States, and you might have heard
about an upcoming election in this country. Th
Hi Steffen,
I checked and for whatever reason, they simply aren't sending email to
arch...@mail-archive.com. No idea why. If you can help make that happen,
archiving will work again.
While we are talking, I wants folks to know that the Mail Archive itself is
running fine (knock on wood). But I ca
>What type of partial match search is supported on mail-archive?
Here's the short and long explanation of search syntax.
https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#search
https://www.mail-archive.com/searching.html
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So far, so good with this transition. Happy 2019 to everyone.
Jeff
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Dear Friends,
The Mail Archive has been running for 20 years. It started
as hobby and grew into a small business 14 years ago.
We have now come full circle. The business will end on
December 31, 2018 and the service will revert to a hobby.
What happened? Well, traffic has steadily declined for ma
Next month will be the 20th anniversary of The Mail Archive.
We had a peaceful, sane year which is more than I can say
for much of the world.
No major changes to the service. Uptime was by far the best
ever, at 99.996%. Our previous best was just shy of 99.9%
in 2016. A few disks failed here and t
Thanks for the report. There was a bug in list name validation. Should be
fixed now.
Jeff
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I know nobody cares, but I noticed that The Mail Archive
achieved over 99.99% uptime for a year. Kind of neat. We'll
see if this message jinxes it. For comparison, if you count
the recent total eclipse in the United States as a failure,
the sun had about 99.9995% uptime.
https://www.mail-archive.c
Sorry for missing this earlier. There is no self service mechanism for
downloading
raw mail, in pat to prevent address harvesting. The normal procedure
is to contact
support team with a request.
Unfortunately this is an 11 year old mailing list, and a bunch of the
raw mail has
been moved to very c
The Mail Archive has switched certificate authorities, and dropped extended
validation. Please let me know if you notice any problems.
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Glad you were able to get things working. For search experts out there, The
Mail Archive uses Lucene search syntax. See the following documentation.
http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#search
http://www.mail-archive.com/searching.html
More specifically, the site uses the default Lucene query par
We use MHonArc to render emails for the web, which is open source.
So any impatient programmers who are really hungry for this feature
may want to dust off their Perl programming skills.
Jeff
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No it's fine, this is a topic of general interest. Missing mail typically
means a false positive from spam filtering. We previously used Postini,
and when they shut down switched to Spam Hero. There's definitely room
for improvement and I'm always open to suggestions if anyone knows of
something be
A lot of crazy stuff happened in 2016. Looking back, what parts
of that touched The Mail Archive?
Let's start with mundane computer stuff. Uptime was great, the service
was online for the entire year except for 9 hours, 12 minutes. Some
additional hard drives were converted to SSD, and some RAM wa
We’ve decided to make a policy change for The Mail Archive regarding
message removal. For the last eighteen years (time flies!) list
administrators have been responsible for decisions on removing content from
publicly archived lists. We have had this policy in place in order to
preserve the integri
Thanks for the heads up. Highly appreciated. I'm impressed that you know
the certificate
vendor for The Mail Archive. I was not aware of the drama going on with
StartCom.
Is it correct that the removal only applies to new certificates, and
therefore the
deadline for action is May 3, 2017 when the c
Ezmlm defaults to "X-No-Archive: Yes" in the header, which
prohibits archiving. I checked and confirmed that the following
message-id has the anti-archiving header. You'll need to turn
that header off to use The Mail Archive.
ae39af47dd7f5a4a96234b8e6bcac1050112122...@ox-ex.oxid-esales.local
_
You are correct, we match subject lines in absence of explicit
headers. The matching window is the most recent 3000
messages. This was more important two decades ago when
mail user agents were less fastidious with headers. Will think
about it. Thanks for the feedback and sorry for the misthread.
If
Today I want to express my support and appreciation for Lars Magne
Ingebrigtsen. For those not familiar, Lars created and has been running
the utterly terrific email archiving service Gmane for 14 years. I've
long admired both Gmane's engineering excellence and integrity.
Unfortunately, one downsi
Thanks for asking. We had some problems on May 15
during a cascading failure of hard drives. Archiving was
paused for about a day and there was also some downtime
during investigation. No data was lost.
Today archiving was paused for about an hour while the
failed hard disks were being replaced. T
Thanks for the detailed report. I made some changes and now
get a 'A' rating on the online test. Does this fix the Android
problems?
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Once upon a time, an ancient fish crawled out of the water and into
the mud. That was an important moment in the grand journey of life.
Its children learned to live on the land and eventually became us.
On December 21, I watched the a young company called SpaceX
successfully land a rocket booster s
Our inbound spam filtering service, SpamHero, decided that
the confirmation message was phishing. Sending it through
now, and we'll discuss this with the SpamHero folks. Suggestions
for alternate spam filtering services are always welcome.
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All the quarantined TDF messages were from you, except for one from
bugzilla. No idea why. Anyway, I've whitelisted both the entire
opendocumentfoundation.org domain, and also you specifically. Yell
if you see any more trouble. Best thing you can do to help is continue
keeping TDF lists from being
The spam filtering service we use (SpamHero) quarantined that message along
with some others. I've released the messages from quarantine and also
adjusted
the whitelist to hopefully reduce or prevent this from happening in the
future.
I'm sorry about this and we would definitely consider switching
A more detailed response was sent over private mail, but the
short answers are (1) yes, as per FAQ (2) thanks for the
suggestion, will add it to the list of things to think about.
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Yes, you can safely leave out To, Message-id, and Received.
Consequences are what you'd expect, like the inability to do a
message-id search and find that particular message.
You are correct. Posting address is manually assigned during the bulk
import process, and automatically determined from hea
The only things indexed for search are: message-id, subject, date (usually
extracted from the Recieved: header), sender name (extracted
from From: header), posting address (for example, gossip@mail-archive.com),
archival message number, and message body. Every message is sorted and
organized accord
1. Yes, we override list name on import.
2. Search will have no concept of alternative list names. There is no
reasonable way to overcome this.
3. Why not use the tool that Earl mentioned?
4. We always merge into the new list name and set up an HTTP redirect so
that the old URLs are not broken. Mer
Statute of limitations is typically 3 kilomessages on a normal
non-import list, but should (I think) be unlimited on bulk import.
Conversion to unix newlines is required and is manual; doesn't
matter who does it.
Still prefer to do whole import at once especially if tricky; less
labor, also less l
* I recommend doing the import all at once, rather than in
stages. Not for technical reasons, it just saves manual labor.
* Happy to make a tarball of the HTML after the import.
It will look like basic MHonArc output and cosmetically differ
quite a bit from what is served, because there is signifi
First, it is very common and super easy to directly import from a
mailman (pipermail) archive. If the pipermail archive is publicly
online, just supply the URL to the support team.
The Mail Archive does not split digests back into individual messages.
That's way too scary. If a digest is presente
We're experimenting with a new user interface for search. It
works a little differently, what do people think?
To try this on your own list, just replace "search" in the URL
with "searchdev".
Cheers,
Jeff
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http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=squirrel&l=cayugabirds-l%40cornell.edu
NEW
Happy Spring everyone. Here are some updates for The Mail Archive.
Search is about 10 times faster than before. This is due to a complete
rewrite that shaves off a ton of initialization time. I'm really happy
about this.
As an experiment, we're changing the way we serve ads. Previously,
direct vi
After investigation, this turned out to be an issue with an "X-No-Archive:
Yes" header
on the list itself.
Cheers,
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You may have noticed that archiving was suspended at
The Mail Archive recently. Things are fine now, read on
if you want gory details.
We are hosted at a professional datacenter, complete
with building wide uninterruptible power supply (UPS) and
backup generators. About 5 years ago, the datacenter
The gossip mailing list has a new name: gossip@mail-archive.com
It's been over fifteen years, but I've finally got around to moving this
list to where it should have been the whole time. All subscribers have
been migrated. If there are any issues, please let me know.
http://www.mail-archive.com/fa
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I've now had some time to spruce up the search feature. Amazing what
progress Lucene has made in the last few years. Search is slightly
faster now, there is less code on our end, and I found and fixed a couple of
rare bugs involving HTML escaping.
What I can't do is reproduce your problem; it work
The Mail Archive has long used a spam filter for inbound
email. For many years, we've used a service called Postini.
Over the last month we've switched to a different service,
called SpamHero. Overall it appears to be working better,
but nothing is perfect. If your list is experiencing any issues
w
Individual list search is very important. Thank you for reporting
the problem. This turned out to be a configuration mistake on the
webserver, involving the MultiViews configuration directive.
Search should be working now. Let us know if you see any
anomalies, and in the meantime we're looking into
Dear List Admins,
This is a question for some of the expert spam-fighters out there.
As you might imagine, The Mail Archive is on the receiving
end of a fair amount of email spam. We currently reduce some
of that inbound spam using a service called Postini Message
Filtering. Unfortunately that se
Happy New Year.
As The Mail Archive enters its 15th year of operation, let's take a
quick look back. This year we had a record uptime percentage of
99.69%. That number jumps to 99.96% if you forgive the day we were
deliberately dark in protest of the proposed SOPA law in the United
States. There a
Okay, so here's a quick status update. There are have been suggestions about
fonts. Font weight. Line spacing. Typeface. Line spacing is interesting,
a big design goal was to make more information available with less scrolling.
However, we've found several references that suggest 1.4 is good in ter
>What I dislike is that visited links are indistinguishable from non
>visited ones. The difference in color just is way too little.
I didn't notice this until you mentioned it. Now it is driving me crazy.
Thank you for the feedback.
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Thank you for the feedback, keep it coming.
Interesting screenshots. By the way, my everyday platform is
also Ubuntu (10.04 and 12.04). So far I can't reproduce font
problems with courier.
As for the ordering of font-family, that's a good question. Let
me check with graphic designer.
-Jeff
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Ralph:
Can you share your browser + operating system including
version numbers? If it is not too hard, a screenshot of
a message page as well? Do you know what your browser
zoom level is set to? Feel free to reply privately if you prefer.
http://www.whatismybrowser.com/
http://www.smartsheet.com/
Thanks everyone for public and private feedback. Graphical
summation here for the moment. Did I miss or misunderstand
anything?
http://mail-archive.com/feedback.png
>> Access keys should
>> also be defined to do similar.
>
>And that would be really nice. (but they should also be advertized,
>mayb
Hello all,
The Mail Archive is now 14 years old (that's a long time in dog
years) and we've been thinking about some design updates.
The mockup below is intended for visitors from global search
engines. Direct visitors will continue to have no advertisements.
I hope that the proposed design is an
Okay, found the bug.
On June 10th I made a change to deal with archives containing more
than one million messages. A piece of code had decided that one
million was a really big number and was starting to write scientific
notation to some internal log files. Unfortunately my change was
flawed and I
> Fair enough, I found how to have http://cr.yp.to/ezmlm.html subscribe
> something other than the envelope or header from address.
If you think this would be useful for others, please consider sharing either
here, or we can put in the http://mail-archive.com/faq.html if appropriate.
> I was a bi
Thanks for the note, we'll take a look. By the way, there's a discussion
about using a shorter URL. Would that be useful to you?
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg12770.html
For many years, The Mail Archive has run with a high replication factor for
storage - usually 7X. This helps with performance; more drives help serve
more requests. It helps with reliability; disk failure is no big deal when
there are many more just like it. And we splice full backups right off the
The only change is all web pages are serving HTTP 503 (Service Temporarily
Unavailable) for the next 24 hours. There is no disruption to email
archival.
We noticed at least one other email archival service (marc.info) is also
participating.
-Jeff
The Mail Archive is now dark.
We will be offline for 24 hours in protest of proposed US censorship laws.
-Jeff
The Mail Archive will be participating in SOPA Blackout Day. On January
18th, 2012 we will be dark.
The Stop Online Piracy Act H.R.3261 (and PIPA, its sister bill S.968) is a
proposed United States law, please read it yourself. The basic goal of the
bills is to censor all access to non-US websites
> Finally, one of the charter goals of Mail Archive, Inc. is to have fun
Mission accomplished.
http://www.airshipventures.com/sightings/1290/2012/01/08
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Happy New Year!
As 2011 ends, it is once again time to look back at The Mail Archive.
First, let's talk hardware. We broke the 100 million message barrier this
year, which is getting close to the design limit for our current hardware.
Next year will almost certainly require a new storage system, a
I'm pleased to announce The Mail Archive has passed the 100 million
message mark this past week. It took 13 years and eight generations of
hardware, but we made it.
-Jeff
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On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> > I assume the indexing is not running at their end for some reason.
>
> That is exactly correct. If I run by hand it works fine, and that go
> link will resolve now. Still looking into why the cron job that kicks
>
June has been a weird month. Some of the automatic software programs stopped
running, resulting in many search indexes falling behind. Plus we had a
crash this morning causing about 90 minutes downtime. Crazy!
I think I've finally traced the problem to a May 30 operating system update.
It disrupte
Sharing response with group.
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From: MAISONOBE Luc
Date: Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: mailing list not archived
To: Jeff Breidenbach
Jeff Breidenbach a écrit :
Sympa sets an X-No-Archive: Yes header by default.
>
Oh, thanks for the hint
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM, e-letter wrote:
> Unable to use the search feature, e.g. search for "text" or "a"
> returns 0 results, clearly incorrect.
Works for me, from both the home page and in an individual archive.
Can you please supply the exact search URL that is giving trouble?
http:/
> I assume the indexing is not running at their end for some reason.
That is exactly correct. If I run by hand it works fine, and that go
link will resolve now. Still looking into why the cron job that kicks
off indexing had trouble. Thanks for problem report.
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> I agree, and David pointed it out originally. Are you implicitly saying
> it shouldn't and won't?
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of mucking with the subject line, for
several reasons (parsing chanllenges, unclear etiquette,
internationalization, ...) I would feel a more comfortable if the pra
> When you add prefixing the subject with "Re: " [...]
The Mail Archive doesn't add any prefixing.
So I've tried a few more systems (mostly Apple) and none of them are
working. That means either I screwed up, or mail user agents don't
support this feature, or both. Can a few volunteers use the r
Hi all,
I'm moving this discussion to gossip because it is of general
interest. There are about 1000 uses of The Mail Archive's reply
feature every day. Based on David's request, I've put together
preliminary support for In-Reply-To to help with threading. You can
see it in action with curl and I'
Oops, sorry for the more-or-less duplicate message. The extra factor
of 2 in time is because the temporary files are turning out twice as
big as I was expecting. Earl, good suggestion, and no we haven't
explored it (yet).
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I was doing some experiments today, and managed to briefly knock over
a server in the process. I looked at searching multiple indexes
(Lucene's MultiSearcher) and merging
(IndexWriter.addIndexesNoOptimize). The former is unusably slow. The
latter seems to be on track for about 6 hours if the desti
>Perhaps it's time for us to revisit [Lucene for site-wide search]
A few weeks ago I tested Lucene's ability to search across multiple
indexes (MultiSearcher) and it is hopelessly slow; queries take 5
seconds across just a few hundred indexes.
Right now I'm trying index merging (addIndexesNoOptim
Fixed faster than expected. Only a few hundred messages affected
across the entire corpus as far as I can tell, and they are all being
dealt with. One question: the gg1 address is really designed for
Google Groups, not for other stuff. Did you try the regular archival
address first and get some sor
Progress report:
We are receiving your messages but our system is failing to recognize
them as belonging to a new list. It took me a while to find them since
gg1 is not logged the same way as regular inbound messages. I will
take the sorting engine out back into the parking lot and try to
"talk" s
I'm seeing contradictory data in our inbound mail logs; give us a few
days to get this sorted. Thanks for problem report.
Jeff
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Season's greetings.
Thank you all for sticking with The Mail Archive as we close out the
decade. Here's a quick rundown of the trials, tribulations, and
triumphs over the past year.
First, let's talk about infrastructure. Our uptime was 99.57% which is
similar to previous years. This year's main
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:46 AM, e-letter wrote:
> Please offer the ability to search using international date format
> (-mm-dd) as a search criterion
Done. (Actually, this has always worked).
>The interesting question: is it possible? Are the originating
> mails stored so that the visible html can be repaired?
A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer walk into a bar.
The mathematician says "The raw mail exists even the old stuff is in
offline
cold storage. It can be matched by me
> ((?:cid:)?|(?:(?:http://(?:www\.)?)?mail-archive\.com/)?)($AddrExp)
Tested and live. Thanks guys.
There are two cases that are very common and handled poorly. One
is an http hyperlink to mail-archive.com as we've been discussing.
The other is a a mailto hyperlink. These are correctly obfuscated,
but end up as a broken link. Better to not have a link than a broken one.
http://www.mail-archive.
The Mail Archive does have to be very aggressive to obfuscate email
addresses, otherwise a lot of people go bonkers. But yes, it is dumb to
break a hyperlink, especially a hyperlink to The Mail Archive. Your feature
request is valid and if you are feeling eager, feel free to send in a patch.
Otherw
You found a bug. In The Mail Archive's hash calculation, there is an
incorrect urlib.unquote run on the message id. This is escaping the minus
sign, and therefore calculating based on an incorrect message id. We're
going to have to regenerate the entire message-id index after the bug is
fixed. That
The gossip malling list uses a somewhat obscure and very limited list server
called Enemies of Carlotta. Another fun fact is it runs on a 5 watt NSLU2,
which has a grand total of 32 megabytes of memory. That's less memory than
the very first hardware iteration of The Mail Archive, which was a 90
me
If you visit the home page on The Mail Archive, you may notice
search is broken. You can not currently search the entire corpus.
We're working on it but it will take some time.
The other search features still work, e.g. search works fine for an
individual archive, and you can still search list nam
There are currently 1291 Indonesian language lists stored on The Mail
Archive. I want someone to look them over and point out which lists are
mostly or entirely spam.
Details:
- Person needs to speak Indonesian, obviously.
- Person must be in the United States. Why? It hard to send payment t
Testing obfuscation, data below:
j...@jab.org
http://j...@jab.org
mailto:j...@jab.org
http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/msg01358.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/
http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org
http://mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/msg01358.html
http://mail-arc
I've finally completed localization of advanced search. If you speak a
language other than English, now is a great time to click around the user
interface and see if there are any silly language mistakes. (To get to
advanced search, do a regular search first, then you'll see a link)
Cheers,
Jeff
This is general interest, so we are responding publicly.
We've discovered that many of the advanced query results have been
leaking out through a fractured fiber optic line in the Gulf of
Mexico. It is hard to get a precise measurement, but we believe 13 to
20 thousand bits of information per day
Ok, it only took ... 4 years ... but we now have sort-by-date
available in the advanced search interface. Enjoy.
-Jeff
> I wasn't clear. Is there some way to organize the search results?
>
> When I used the trial search engine on the sundial list and typed in
> "oglesby" the 550 results were all
Hi Andrius,
I wasn't aware that there were adult content ads being served at all. Can
you please supply a URL so I can take a look? If you don't want to supply to
the entire group, send to M-A staff at themailarch...@gmail.com. I'm not
keen on adjusting aspects of individual messages because that
An "advanced search" form would basically have a bunch of fields like
"subject" and "date" and "from" then string them together into a query
syntax described below. Then redirect that query to the standard search URL.
Implementation would most likely be in PHP. Hard part isn't the programming,
it i
>
> The list name links to the info page; optionally not displayed if made
> redundant by the nature of the logo.
>
This one requires too much per-list thinking; we'll only consider changes
that are fully automatic. The other parts sound reasonable to me, but it
would be nice to know if other peop
> I have a web site for the list rules and, very soon, a link to the
> archives. Is there a header I can add to my messages that will let the
> archiver pick up and display my site URL on its own line?
>
We'll honor RFC2369 headers. A quick glance suggests List-Help is most
appropriate.
>
> Also
>"Manually" disable that button
Implemented. List admins can ask to kill off the reply-to button (for new
messages only) from M-A support staff. If there is significant demand we'll
consider exposing more easily.
With Mike's permission, I am moving this over to gossip because it is of
general interest.. Like everything else, I think this boils down to cost
versus benefit.
The reply to button in message pages was used 610 times yesterday. I don't
know a better way to commiserate with someone whose pet bunny
I meant to say "on the order of 100 queries per second" although right now
it is less.
http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#scale
Bring it on. The Mail Archive gets tens of thousands of inbound messages
daily, and currently serves on the order of queries per second. So I don't
think there is any concern about swamping the service given the numbers
mentioned. Doesn't matter to use how many mbox files are involved for
imports.
Hi Randy,
Bad news first.It is not such a great idea for mail-archive.com to re-send
mail. That's asking for trouble with respect to abuse and spammers. On the
good side, we can get the same effect if the mail server is in cahoots with
the archiving service. A specification (RFC5604) is in place a
Hi Zakaria,
Deletion policy is outlined in the FAQ. General questions like this one are
good for gossip; for a specific case it's probably best to go to the support
address.
http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#delete
Cheers,
Jeff
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Zakaria Ousmaal wrote:
> >
Ok, I checked; the message was dropped because it was bigger than our size
limit. We limit inbound message size for a variety of reasons; one is
historically attachment heavy archives consume a lot of resources and -
statistically speaking - are much more likely to be spammy. (There were
some horr
About how big was that PNG in bytes?
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