"brian m. carlson" writes:
> I think GitGitGadget is a useful tool which I haven't really had the
> time to learn how to use. I appreciate that many people prefer a
> patch-based workflow, and that using a patch-based workflow and a
> mailing list provides the project independence and avoids fav
Derrick Stolee writes:
> On 9/25/2019 9:36 AM, Pierre Tardy wrote:
[...]
>> And why restrict on DVCS?
>> Isn't it admitted that the distributed version control is nowadays
>> much better in term of software productivity?
>> Is there some use cases that "traditional" centralized VCS are better
>> o
Elijah Newren writes:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:37 AM Derrick Stolee wrote:
[...]
>> II. Approach
>>
>> The action items below match the problems listed above.
>>
>> 1. Improve the documentation for contributing to Git.
>>
>> In preparation for this email, I talked to someone familiar with is
Hello,
Johannes Schindelin writes:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2019, Mike Hommey wrote:
>> 6. Newcomers don't really have any idea /what/ they could contribute.
>> They either have to come with their own itch to scratch, or read the
>> code to figure out if there's something to fix.
>
> I think this is ver
Hi Pierre,
On 25/09/2019 14:36, Pierre Tardy wrote:
As a community, our number one goal is for Git to continue to be the best
distributed version control system. At minimum, it should continue to be
the most widely-used DVCS.
I'd rather we stated our goal in terms of what problems we are trying
On 9/25/2019 9:36 AM, Pierre Tardy wrote:
>>> As a community, our number one goal is for Git to continue to be the best
>>> distributed version control system. At minimum, it should continue to be
>>> the most widely-used DVCS.
>>
>> I'd rather we stated our goal in terms of what problems we are tr
> > As a community, our number one goal is for Git to continue to be the best
> > distributed version control system. At minimum, it should continue to be
> > the most widely-used DVCS.
>
> I'd rather we stated our goal in terms of what problems we are trying
> to address rather than accolades we w
Hi Stolee,
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
> the ideas we ta
Hi Mike,
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> > During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> > "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> > more welcoming to ne
On 9/19/2019 12:30 PM, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
> the ideas we talked about,
Junio C Hamano writes:
> Growth and the world domination may come as a consequence, and I
> would not reject it when it happens, but we should not be actively
> seeking it.
I realize that it was my mistake that I did not explicitly say this,
but I do appreciate many of the things the document pr
Garima Singh writes:
>> could get people to tag with [FIRST PATCH] or something when sending in
>> their first patch.
I personally think that the [FIRST PATCH] thing will add distraction
without helping much, so I am mildly negative on that idea.
>> If the patch is not desired, then we should e
Jeff King writes:
> I've had similar thoughts over the years, but eventually switched my way
> of thinking. I think part of that switch was coming to the conclusion
> that most of the value of a Code of Conduct isn't about having a system
> of enforcement against bad actors (in fact, I think that
Derrick Stolee writes:
> I. Goals and Perceived Problems
>
> As a community, our number one goal is for Git to continue to be the best
> distributed version control system. At minimum, it should continue to be
> the most widely-used DVCS. Towards that goal, we need to make sure Git is
> the best
On 9/19/2019 1:34 PM, Denton Liu wrote:
Another discouraging thing when I was just starting out was sending a
out a patch and just getting radio silence (especially the first one, I
wasn't sure if it even sent out properly!). Perhaps in the main list, we
could get people to tag with [FIRST PATCH]
Thanks for starting this thread. I am glad it is receiving such great
energy on here. Apart from the some of the statements that sound too
ideal, I agree in gist with the overall effort this will hopefully set
rolling.
On 9/19/2019 12:30 PM, Derrick Stolee wrote> 5. Advertise that Git wants
n
On September 20, 2019 10:36 AM, brian m. carlson wrote:
> To: Derrick Stolee
> Cc: git@vger.kernel.org; p...@peff.net; Emily Shaffer
> ; Jonathan Nieder ;
> Johannes Schindelin ; gits...@pobox.com;
> garimasi...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Growing the Git community
>
On 2019-09-19 at 16:30:13, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> 1. Improve the documentation for contributing to Git.
>
> In preparation for this email, I talked to someone familiar with issues
> around new contributors, and they sat down to try and figure out how to
> contribute to Git. The first place they w
Hi All,
Some rhetorical top level systemy thinking...
On 19/09/2019 17:30, Derrick Stolee wrote:
During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
"Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds.
I have a paper-sheet hanging in my private living-room now, stating:
- "This is my private living-room, and you are guilty invading my
privacy using EMF-telepathy."
- You must all have the same.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:43 AM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Protecting people is more important than p
Protecting people is more important than protecting the climate.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:54 AM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Due to the following mathematical proof, stating it is right to be a
> normal female or male, we must now all file formal complaints about
> products lying,
Hello all,
Due to the following mathematical proof, stating it is right to be a
normal female or male, we must now all file formal complaints about
products lying, it was not OK to be a normal female or male.
- Die naturalistic-fallacy ist inzwischen als (nature&community)
gelöst, und "we made it
What does the soul do? It just says NO.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:04 AM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Our harrassers have no soul, please help.
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:20 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
> >
> > I hereby instruct the German military to kill our harrassers.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19,
Our harrassers have no soul, please help.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:20 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> I hereby instruct the German military to kill our harrassers.
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:12 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > A game-theoretical insight, as the GIT maili
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:17:57PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> > I.e., I think we want to grow the community a bit more organically,
> > which should be more sustainable in the long run.>
> > So I think any advertising would be more about making it clear that _if_
> > you have an idea, we're ve
On 9/19/2019 6:16 PM, Jeff King wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>>
>> 5. Advertise that Git wants new contributors
>>
> This point is the one I'm least on board with. Not because I'm not
> thrilled to have new contributors, but that to some degree I think th
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> Feel free to pick apart all of the claims I make below. This is based
> on my own experience and opinions. It should be a good baseline
> for us to all arrive with valuable action items.
First off, thanks for starting this conversa
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:34:23AM -0700, Denton Liu wrote:
> > 4. Add an official Code of Conduct
> >
> > So far, the community has had an unofficial policy of "be nice,
> > as much as possible". We should add a Code of Conduct that is
> > more explicit about the behavior we want to model. This
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:37 AM Derrick Stolee wrote:
>
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
> the ideas we
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
> the ide
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:34:23AM -0700, Denton Liu wrote:
> Aside from getting the first email sent, most of my time learning to
> contribute to Git stemmed from the fact that there's a lot of tribal
> knowledge that's not really written down anywhere. Here are some of the
> smaller things that c
I hereby instruct the German military to kill our harrassers.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:12 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> A game-theoretical insight, as the GIT mailing-list has just been
> hacked: Such a move necessitates everyone to down-value the hackers'
> intellects, if it was
Hello all,
A game-theoretical insight, as the GIT mailing-list has just been
hacked: Such a move necessitates everyone to down-value the hackers'
intellects, if it was not a false-flag-operation.
Cheers,
Klaus Sembritzki
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:44 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
Hello all,
1. Long texts stem from false (You can deduce anything from something
that is wrong).
2. TL;DR is therefore sane.
3. (Inclusion & Diversity) is a tautology, it includes all of it.
Cheers,
Klaus Sembritzki
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:35 PM Derrick Stolee wrote:
>
> During the Virtual G
Hello,
As a relatively new contributor (just less than a year), I guess I'll
share some thoughts:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to m
During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
"Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
the ideas we talked about, and some that have been growing since.
Feel free to
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