On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:56:36 -0500
Rich Freeman wrote:
> I think the real problem is that there aren't many devs who care about
> Java in the first place. That isn't a policy problem - it is a
> manpower problem.
+1
In the past two years, I've committed much to the Java categories. That
grows
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:20:01 -0500
Rich Freeman wrote:
> What do you do if somebody blocks progress in your overlay structure?
> You start another one.
Sounds like something that can work, survival of the [insert anything].
> What do you do if somebody blocks progress in the current Gentoo
> p
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:50:48 +0100
hasufell wrote:
> Again: you are confusing a specific incident with my proposal of a
> distributed model. I was just bringing it up as an _additional_
> argument why I find the distributed approach more interesting...
> because it makes it easier to regroup and
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:29:28 +0100
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> And proposing a Java revolution because the existing team
> does not immediately jubilate at your extensive reform proposals is
> also not necessarily the best idea.
For those that disagree, start overlay java2015 and prove him wr
ore because at this point in time
sys-apps/openrc brings the file 'functions.sh' which contains some
crucial functions used by those other packages.
This is tracked in https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219
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with the output of `emerge --info`? Thank you in advance.
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ev-208::gentoo, installed)
This is the actual problem, which I have already covered; just enable
the openrc-force USE flag on =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1
or alternatively mask >=gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.
You need to put -openrc-force in /etc/portage/profile/use.mask to sta
x27;t want
this so I suggest you to add "gnome-base/gconf" and
"media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf" to package.mask. By doing so, you
will be warned when something depends on it in the future.
In this case you will find that net-im/pidgin[gstreamer] depends on it;
thus, you will
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to set up a voice call in gtalk.
>
> Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to
> use gstreamer?
Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more
details; but it is just one small package though.
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ing to go through unnecessary maintenance by the
changes that might happen with their dependencies.
PS: This does not imply that I consider other init systems or DEs as
bad; I would switch to OpenRC if logid would be forked and boot time
decreased (although Patrick demonstrated in a blog post you
I think we will never be there, because systemd is not often listed as
a dependency (only on ~2 or so GNOME packages?) compared to something
like ncurses that is listed all over the place...
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:32:12 -0500
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06 2013, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> > A stable ebuild being broken is concerning, the above feels like a
> > bug to me; can you file a bug and attach the complete build log and
> > comment with the
ll
> not, at least not yet, since it's 2737 lines long.
You can attach it to the email if needed.
> Please help me sort out this bug. Thanks!
I hope /var/log/messages or /var/log/rc.log contains more details for
us, to help you out; could you share those (attach or pastebin)?
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t regressed, I cannot check
in which versions that bad commit is present for (1); though it is
definitely limited to versions lower than v3.10.16 as evidenced earlier.
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base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2]
>
> Out of sheer curiousity, what needs gnome-base/gconf?
The output tells you; pidgin needs gst-plugins-gconf, which needs gconf.
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rior to running 'make distclean'.
>
> Lesson learnt. :'(
Yeah, you will only want to run this if you really need to run it; in
common, just starting from `make` after having done configuration
changes suffice. You only really need a distclean with a broken build.
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> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>
> Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:13:16 -0600
Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 05:49:30PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:24:58 -0600
> > Bruce Hill wrote:
> >
> > > From: Bruce Hill
> > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
&g
is that?
>
> It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope
> you don't get as offended as some other person.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith
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s/http-replicator.service, +files/http-replicator.service.conf,
+http-replicator-3.0-r4.ebuild,+http-replicator-4.0_alpha2-r4.ebuild:
Add unit file (#492502 by Joerg Neikes)
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; but note
though, that GNOME 2 is near the end of its times so it might be
removed some point in the future.
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w_bug.cgi?id=497562
so the maintainers can resolve this? You can CC yourself on that bug to
keep track of its resolution.
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them. But,
before doing that; just trying to emerge again after resolving the
block might work as well, so, try that first to spare out work. :)
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contents would be like this:
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="
/var/lib/layman/aaa
/var/lib/layman/bbb
$PORTDIR_OVERLAY
/usr/local/portage"
> Are the file perms okay? I tried chown-ing everything to
> portage:portage but that didn't change anything. I'm stumped.
Unsure
ttps://bugs.gentoo.org and
attach all the requested information? At the very least comment with
the output of `emerge --info` and attach the complete build.log.
Thank you very much in advance.
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x27;s going on here?
You'll want to start with inspecting ~/.xinitrc; from there on, look
into the configuration of both your session and X itself.
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:19:23 -0800
walt wrote:
> On 01/11/2014 02:32 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 17:16:36 -0500
> > Andrew Penhorwood wrote:
> >
> >> * ERROR: sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2::gentoo failed (compile
> >> phase):
> &g
other mail; you can add -mno-avx at the end of your CFLAGS
in /etc/portage/make.conf to avoid the usage of AVX.
This is just a wild guess, but I've seen this helping other Linode
customers earlier that had similar problems; so, it might help you.
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latter defaults to /etc/xdg and I think /etc/xdg/autostart/ might be of
interest to investigate here as well.
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#x27;s hard to tell which one is correct looking at
that, I think it needs some trial and error trying to trim the file
down in order to get an idea what is what.
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ution when searching this online.
As a second question, to figure out what '8' is; take a look at
`cat /proc/interrupts` where the last one or two columns of that line
give it a name. Feel free to share both `dmesg` and that output with us.
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smaller patches that also spare out time; if you
are interested, you can find them by searching for him on the mailing
list. However, I think those other patches will be in a release soon.)
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t "Segmentation fault".
Relevant bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=488918
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uck.
* https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/acpi-devel
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ill be able
to do that; given it is completely on the server, anything between the
most general and the most specific things is entirely in your control.
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rrors;
they could reveal the underlying reason and/or the source of it.
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possible to disable this
> stuff in kernel and guess what will be done on my systems.
Similar claims again, without any weight; that is subjective opinion.
> > > Looks broken. Broken by design. The worst form of broken.
> >
> > By your opinion, not others.
>
> T
whereas
the full picture includes a lot more than that (eg. core libraries),
so, a good winning strategy is to spare money for the rest out there.
(Where "winning" means preventing your world from falling apart)
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something like a 10K line program, is easy to fix.
[1] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
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ed an
> entangled particles paradox as an example of its "flawed" nature.
> Though as we know these days such systems exist and are quite well
> used in numerous experiments. My point is simple: do not blindly
> adhere to someone's words, even if this person has high au
as the result of a lack of manpower to
support multiple systems. Others aren't stopped from forking and/or
wrapping XFCE to (also) support other login facilities than logind;
well, under the assumption that they would limit their support...
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, some "no parents" messages during slot conflict output
were nuked, ...
If I can type that as part of this mail, people could follow logind.
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shown in this script.
[1]: https://gist.github.com/TomWij/a13abacfb74999c10957
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ouldn't; it's a tool for "select"ing from multiple runtime things,
that it would (un)install something as part of it would be odd, kind of
makes one remember the UNIX philosophy of doing one thing right.
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age; the other first install things are documented.
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something else should do an appropriate
> job.
It is actively being worked on from what can be seen.
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proach for systemd
> proponents to get systemd added to gentoo as a formally supported
> *optional* init system.
+1
> Then, and only then, can it be judged on its *merits*,
+1
> and then and *only* then should it (imnsho) ever be considered as a
> potential candidate for
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:22:22 +0200
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 20/03/2014 20:57, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> > Well, running systemd now I can reboot into OpenRC; it just works.
>
> How is this done?
Here, two GRUB entries; alternatively, eselect init to switch symlinks.
> &g
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 02:27:11 +0600
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:00:27 +0100 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > > OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will
> > > be.
> >
> > Do you have a source that backs up this claim?
>
>
org/show_bug.cgi?id=475352 (QA involved)
Also make sure you have read the post installation messages.
Other than that, I suggest you wait until resolution; there have been
reports here and there, so, I assume it'll be fixed in the near future.
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:23:05 -0400
Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 3/20/2014 4:00 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:53:51 +0400
> > Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> >> OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be.
>
> > Do you have
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:25:18 -0400
Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 3/20/2014 4:14 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> Tom - please STOP CC'ing me on these emails.
>
> I am on the list and don't need two copies.
>
> Use 'Reply-To-List' function (or equivalent - or wors
that fits those needs.
Also: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/configure.ac#n798
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arseable text from journalctl,
> then that is less then useless.
Why? There are other output methods. See the man pages...
> I would expect an export option providing the same detail level as I
> currently find in /var/log/messages.
That's what you can control with the various options
S Windows Event-viewer has very nice filtering capabilities;
beyond that, the detailed information gives you the error code that you
can look up in the documentation.
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tweb/?p=proj/openrc.git;a=log
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sion in the log and/or summary as they
come online; for further details, you can read up here:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
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nek said the same in his replies.
Yes, I saw that after sending this mail; for most replies I do I check
up on it in advance, in this case I missed and/or forgot. Sorry.
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> mailing list.
Here's a hint. Lots of people appear to respond to me.
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:27:09 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:13:28 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> > > Use 'Reply-To-List' function (or equivalent - or worst case,
> > > delete my direct email manually yourself) in your email program.
&g
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:41:54 +0100
"J. Roeleveld" wrote:
> On Fri, March 21, 2014 12:59, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:50:23 +0100
> > "J. Roeleveld" wrote:
> >
> >> Tom,
> >>
> >> Please reply to list. No need
g list etiquette requires people to CC all the people
involved in a particular thread in replies to the mailing list, in case
any of them is not subscribed."
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e of that, you can make it whatever you
want to be nearly unlimited (other than by available manpower). :)
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entire thread; I'm not sure,
but can you let us know if the problem is resolved and how?
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e part under reveals that you need
to increase the backtracking value and try again (if no blocker).
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it is hardware.
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:11:25 +0100
eroen wrote:
> One would hope (mostly for their image's sake) the gnome team does
> not remove gnome-settings-daemon-2 until at least one of
> cinnamon-settings-daemon and mate-settings-daemon are included in
> gentoo proper.
+ 05 Mar
morrow.
>
> On this list, you (people who insist on CC-ing the world) are the
> minority.
On this world, this list (where people that I can count on my fingers
insist on not being CC-ed) is a minority.
Regardless of both being a minority, they'll continue to be present.
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such that the maintainers
are aware of this? That is, only if it is still reproducible today.
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l/gentoo-sources` in the
installation; it is a slotted package, it only brings in the latest
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s of people tell you to do something that conflicts, which one
would be picked? Well, pick the one that respects our etiquette; and
along that, the same one guarantees that my time is spent wise.
Similarly, would you spend time to keep asking this everytime it happens
by one or another individu
one. Sometimes they ask a question, but receive
no answer so they are gone 20 or 30 minutes later. Similarly; we're now
a month later in this ML thread, who says people are still subscribed?
On IRC, if you pay notice to the many join/part/quits and don't filter
them, you can still spot that
for details.
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xample procmail rule, as well as
my mail client, neither of both do that here.
> Do you see what I'm getting at?
No; I don't see why I should stop following the mailing list etiquette,
start relying on possibly wasting time as well as break what is fixed.
But yes; for convenience
guaranteed to
be useful, I respect that you don't want to be CC-ed in follow-up mails.
Similarly; if someone is off-list; it takes a single mail to keep me
from sending additional mails. As it clarifies a disengagement; that
unsubscribing is meant to be a disengagement, I can't find that
are still awaiting a reply; the only respectful guarantee that works
for the both of us is if the user states a solution was found and/or
addresses me to send no further emails, that gives guarantees.
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he time to do it.
My past commits were spent on bringing MATE to the Portage tree; if I
would work on a logind implementation, there wouldn't be MATE.
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:56:17 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:15:49 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> > Here's something that works for the both of us: Request someone to
> > not CC you in a follow-up mail when you catch them do it, they'll
> >
mention that.
Yes, I am inconsistent with *THIS* mailing list; let's change things to
make such inconsistency unnecessary, to fix this forever and always.
Otherwise we'll continue to get responses like these
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/273297
while we could ju
oing to lose it.
The question is: How do you spend it?"
> Lots of people confuse factual statements with personal attacks.
As demonstrated above, the confusion is easily made.
> That said, I've never been know for being tactful... ;)
But what have you been known for? :)
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300
luis jure wrote:
>
> el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió:
>
> > How to set this up per folder?
>
> rigth-click on the folder, "Properties..." -> "Compose" -> "default
> to:"
Thank you v
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:38:54 +0100
Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300
> luis jure wrote:
>
> >
> > el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió:
> >
> > > How to set this up per folder?
> >
> > rigth-click on the
n script, you might need to use
strace and/or ltrace to discover which Python script this is.
A next step could be to use a debugger on that Python script if the
trace, strace and/or ltrace are insufficient to reveal the cause.
When you have found the cause, can you file the details in a bug at
https:
e made off-list; that way, the topic can remain.
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k again; if that's the case, I suggest you to
consider a git bisect between the two releases to find the bad commit:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_git-bisect
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ette requires people to CC all the people
involved in a particular thread in replies to the mailing list, in case
any of them is not subscribed."
— http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Procmail
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:35:06 +0100
Karol wrote:
> -- listname+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org
> B.S.
Replace listname by gentoo-user; to unsubscribe, send that mail to:
gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org
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hat was done; I always intend to follow the rules.
Sorry; I hope you see where this approach came from, I'm not trying to
override a majority or intentionally act different than the community.
Sorry again; thank you for your understanding.
PS: To make it clear that I stopped: The last
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:35:20 +0100
null_ptr wrote:
> On 23/03/14 11:06, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> Switching to the old kernel fixed it so I bisected the linux-stable
> sources (as in the wiki) and the first bad commit is bd450dcc357.
> Attached is the bisect.log.
> Since it seems lik
nt with the output of `emerge --info` and
attach build.log as well as config.log? Thank you in advance.
If needed, resources with extra details about filing bug reports:
- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Beautiful_bug_reports
- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bugzilla_HOWTO
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> 2012 /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb
>
> What now?
It can't load what is on line 30 of that file; there'll be a require
instruction, and that require instruction would bring in another file.
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:44:23 +
Mick wrote:
> On Monday 24 Mar 2014 21:28:56 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:23:55 +
> >
> > Mick wrote:
> > > /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:30:in `require': cannot load
> > > such file -- ru
ython2_7 from PYTHON_TARGETS but then
> I cannot re-install portage although it is based on Python3.
Why is this? Can you share us the log or output of that?
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dependencies; that way, it doesn't create the conflict you saw.
(Backtracking 9001 so it is sufficiently high to not cause conflicts)
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package is 2.x-only, you'll need to
build its dependencies with 2.x too for it to be able to function.
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SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Can you attach the complete build.log?
PS: Note that I'm the maintainer of app-editors/retext.
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