Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks for joining in. I have mucho craziness in these directories! /usr/share/locale has way too much stuff, but it doesn't have what I want. It's missing en_US.utf8 and en_US.ISO8859-1. Also, all of what I think are the font files are in a directory called charmaps, not c

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mark Knecht wrote: You may be correct about setting all of this in 02locale. I noticed that the Gentoo formatting stuff for vi is treating LC_ALL and LC_COLLATE differently than LINGUAS. The manual seems to say set system wide stuff in 02locale and user stuff in your own account. They are diff

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mick wrote: Now I am getting confused - at least one box of mine does not have /etc/env.d/02locale at all. Am I supposed to create it manually? The file isn't automatically created by anything, since strictly speaking you can get away without using it. However, if you are going to add the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 2/5/2009 7:01 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: no. He is an idiot if he does not read the docs. Simple. Like people who don't read the manual to their car or vcr and then complaining if something does not work. Idiots. "They should read the manual" is *not* a valid design goal for a system.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top of anyones "show stopper" list of Gentoo defects. Gentoo doesn't *need* an installer and all previous attempts at one have bee

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
Alan McKinnon wrote: This mythical thing - a working installer - probably does not exist and likely never will. This may be true, and it certainly is the case right now. But that's not a good reason to reject one out of hand before you even see it. There are just too many decisions the hum

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 17:11, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top of anyones "show stopper" list of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 17:11, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong nea

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 log messages

2009-04-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/8/2009 2:02 PM, Mick wrote: Hi All, With my new xorg almost there from a configuration perspective I can see these warnings now in my log: (WW) xf86OpenConsole: setpgid failed: Operation not permitted (WW) xf86OpenConsole: setsid failed: Operation not permitted These are common and shoul

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 log messages

2009-04-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/8/2009 3:37 PM, Mick wrote: Wikipedia is telling me that OTF are a Microsoft/Adobe creation - is Linux following suit and therefore xorg includes them in its list of fonts? OpenType (the catchy name for an OTF font) is basically the successor to TrueType, but is in theory an open standar

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 log messages

2009-04-09 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/9/2009 11:27 AM, Mick wrote: 2009/4/8 Mike Edenfield: On 4/8/2009 3:37 PM, Mick wrote: Wikipedia is telling me that OTF are a Microsoft/Adobe creation - is Linux following suit and therefore xorg includes them in its list of fonts? OpenType (the catchy name for an OTF font) is basically

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Remember that the GPL has always been about all the users NOT just the developers/distributors -- "adapt it to your needs" is not allowed when it restricts other users' freedoms. Very few GPL proponents are willing to make this (rather obviously true) statement;

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
»Q« wrote: In <news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Edenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Remember that the GPL has always been about all the users NOT just the developers/distributors -- "adapt it to your needs" is not allowed when it restricts

Re: [gentoo-user] -Os = Nono?

2007-07-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
Kenneth Prugh wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Montag, 23. Juli 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And then Os. That is a big nono. Why's that? Alexander Skwar because several gcc have compiled crap with that flag in the past? That was the

Re: [gentoo-user] -Os = Nono?

2007-07-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
Benno Schulenberg wrote: Although I agree with your reasoning above, you are contradicting yourself in the following two statements: At least, it's no more broken under -Os than under -O2. [...] benefits of using -Os over -O2 are minimal compared against the possible problems it might cause

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
Grant wrote: |> I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use pure |> ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had recently |> turned out to be a corrupt root filesystem. | | yeah, mixing isn't good. Pure systems are way more stable. Now that's an interest

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
b.n. wrote: I didn't know that showing a mail *you* received is illegal. Maybe I can contact Bloch and ask him permission? I think this thread has long since left the topic of Gentoo in the dust. If you cannot just accept that Joerg is not going to be cooperative on this issue and drop it,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit && emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:16:33 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: If you repeat the "opinion" of other people, you make it _your_ opinion and if your opinion may harm other people, you are not allowed to publish it unless you are able t

Re: [gentoo-user] on cdr{kit,tools} and licensing (was: emerge -avC cdrkit && emerge -av cdrtools)

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: They claimed that the official build system was not legal but they replaced it with a build system that definitely is not legal because it is not included in the source. You keep saying this, but I just don't see where it's coming from. Firstly, the cdrkit source ships

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit && emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: Sascha Hlusiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They claimed that the official build system was not legal but they replaced it with a build system that definitely is not legal because it is not included in the source. Of course the files needed to build cdrkit are in the source

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit && emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: Mike Edenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The reality, regardless of what Debian, or the FSF, or you, or any lawyers say, is that the licensing issue has not been tested in court yet. Unless and until that happens, the whole debate is pure theory. Debian is c

Re: [gentoo-user] on cdr{kit,tools} and licensing

2008-07-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: Well, now that you found this out, does this mean that you finally concur with me that Bloch & Co. are license trolls? Not being so emotionally attached to the isse as you are, I'm not going to resort to name calling. I will say that the issue, in my opinion, is nowhe

Re: [gentoo-user] on cdr{kit,tools} and licensing

2008-07-09 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: Sascha Hlusiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Dienstag 08 Juli 2008 16:12:43 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Mike Edenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [lots of stuff I regret] I apologize to everyone for making this mess go on any longer that it had to. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread Mike Edenfield
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-08-10, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The last time I did a basic FreeBSD install, it included Gnu user-land stuff (e.g. gcc). Anything else besides GCC? I can't think of anything else off the top of my head, but it's been a couple years since I'v

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} GPG: pub & sec keys required to decrypt?

2008-09-09 Thread Mike Edenfield
Grant wrote: My understanding of GPG is weak. Can someone point out my misconception(s)? Speaking from a purely practical standpoint, keeping your private and public keys completely separate is extremely inconvenient with (IMO) a negligible security benefit. However, there is arguably a m

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} GPG: pub & sec keys required to decrypt?

2008-09-09 Thread Mike Edenfield
Grant wrote: Can I configure this so that I don't have the two keys on the same system? I'd like encrypt with my remote system and decrypt with my local system. Is that possible? It seems like importing my private key also imports the public key. I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} GPG: pub & sec keys required to decrypt?

2008-09-10 Thread Mike Edenfield
Grant wrote: Can I configure this so that I don't have the two keys on the same system? I'd like encrypt with my remote system and decrypt with my local system. Is that possible? It seems like importing my private key also imports the public key. I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!

2008-10-24 Thread Mike Edenfield
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-10-24, deface <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? The domain name is not down, it just doesn't point at the wiki. I'm looking at it now. But summary: "everyone in this

Re: [gentoo-user] overlay eclass overrides eclass from PORTDIR: what is it?

2008-10-25 Thread Mike Edenfield
b.n. wrote: * Overlay eclass overrides eclass from PORTDIR: Could anyone explain me what does it mean in practice? The cause of this message is that one of the overlays you have configured includes an eclass that already exists in base portage. This happens when the overlay includes eb

[gentoo-user] Corrupted Cache w/ portage

2007-02-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
For the past several weeks I have been having a recurring problem with portage's metadata cache after a sync. The problem is reproduceable 100% of the time now, so either I have something configured wrong or there's actually a problem with the portage mirrors: The problem is easily fixed by r

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
Neil Bothwick wrote: Hello Dan Farrell, Why this is the case, I don't think I'll ever understand. White terminal backgrounds, aside from the invisible color problem, also are hella ugly. Many people find black on white far easier to read than white on black, for the same fonts and sizes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 29 May 2007 22:04, Paul Varner wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 20:14 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls / ls: cannot open directory /: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ What does 'ls -ld /' and 'ls -ld /etc' return? Both of them should look like: drw

[gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?

2007-06-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
I recently enabled the "test" feature on Portage and notice that a couple of packages routinely fail their test phases. Is this expected behavior? More specifically, should I file bug reports if I see such failures? These are unstable packages (so far) and if this will help get them out of ~

RE: [gentoo-user] Resetting the root passwd

2012-01-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:48 PM > On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:08:04 -0500 > Michael Mol wrote: > > > I'm seriously unconvinced that concatenating words significantly > > increases the difficulty of the problem. Just as a mentalist will

RE: [gentoo-user] Resetting the root passwd

2012-01-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:31 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Resetting the root passwd > > On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:09:40 -0500 > "Mike Edenfield" wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross Compiling in Gentoo

2012-01-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/17/2012 1:55 AM, Chris Walters wrote: Hi, I have a question about cross compiling in Gentoo - specifically cross compiling for W32/W64. I tried their preferred method and didn't like it, so I downloaded the appropriate Mingw64 build files, set up a cross compile account, with the appropria

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross Compiling in Gentoo

2012-01-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/17/2012 6:41 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Chris Walters wrote: I have a question about cross compiling in Gentoo - specifically cross compiling for W32/W64. I tried their preferred method and didn't like it, so I downloaded the appropriate Mingw64 build files, set up a cross compile accoun

RE: [gentoo-user] Cross Compiling in Gentoo

2012-01-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Chris Walters [mailto:cjw20...@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:27 AM > > On 1/17/2012 08:39 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > On 1/17/2012 1:55 AM, Chris Walters wrote: > >> that have make files for MS Visual Studio. I have no interest in &g

RE: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Frank Steinmetzger [mailto:war...@gmx.de] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:05 AM > This backs me up in using noscript and flashblock. Sometimes I doubt myself > when I get asked once more why I would use NoScript in times when most of > the web relies on JS. I then say that privacy an

Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/29/2012 1:14 PM, Michael Mol wrote: 2) On PC clones, floppies never had auto-insert detection. (Though maybe you'd get something like that if you used a superfloppy or LS-120 drive to read them) Technically, they did, it was just impossible for an OS to make it actually work: http://bl

RE: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Michael Hampicke [mailto:gentoo-u...@hadt.biz] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:10 AM > > > Technically, they did, it was just impossible for an OS to make it > > actually work: > > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2009/04/02/9528175.aspx > > > Quote > > And you certainl

RE: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: James Broadhead [mailto:jamesbroadh...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:15 AM > On 30 January 2012 13:09, Michael Hampicke wrote: > >> Technically, they did, it was just impossible for an OS to make it > >> actually work: > >> > >> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive

RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM > > Howdy, > > I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive went > out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he didn't > have the restore discs. We ordered those fr

RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM > Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that > required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They > said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I

RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:43 PM > > Mike Edenfield wrote: > >> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM > >> > >> Howdy, > >> > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-18 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 2/18/2012 5:26 AM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I ran across this and though it was a joke. Did a news search and sure enough, it is reported in lots of places. Random linky: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102856/Will-FBI-shut-Internet-March-8-virus-concerns.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Is ther

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:23 PM > I like that quote. I may not be dev material but I know this /usr mess > is not right. The only reason it is happening is because of one or two > distros that push it to make it easier for themselves. If that's ho

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts. > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > The idea of trying to

RE: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:04 PM > Huh? What's that to do with udev? You're talking at far too high a level of > abstraction. The new hardware will "just work" if there are the correct > drivers built in. That's as true of udev as it is of mdev

RE: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:13 PM > BUT, in the same message, it is stated that Xorg *can* be compiled to *not* > try to communicate with udev. > I suspect a similar situation with Gnome. IIRC, GNOME only needs udev for auto-mount support. gv

RE: [gentoo-user] mdev: Has anybody managed to get the keyboard and mouse to work under X?

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:21 AM > As I've said a few times in the current threads, the only thing preventing me > from moving fully onto mdev is not having a working keyboard and mouse > (evdev??) under X. > > Has anybody else tried this, an

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:28 PM > This email [1] (and the correction email right afterwards) should give some > much-needed perspective on > why we're driving full-speed toward an overturned manure truck (which some of > us, e.g., Walter a

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-15 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > This has been one of my points too. I could go out and buy me a bluetooth > mouse/keyboard but I don't because it to complicates matters. I had a long reply to Walt that I (probably wisely) decided not to send, but the basic point of it is also releva

RE: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

2012-03-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
> Walter Dnes wrote: > The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at > http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple > of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and > Midori. Any comments from users of other browsers? The page will be

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-22 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Walter Dnes [mailto:waltd...@waltdnes.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:14 PM > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:35:55PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote > > > What we're talking about with systemd vs openrc, and things like ssh'd > > first-time initialization is all within the realm of responsib

Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/27/2012 6:36 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I've been looking for simple method to create a simple initramfs to just mount the /usr partition. I've found http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Basic_initramfs_used_to_check_and_mount_/usr If this is all you need, I recommend you use dracut. The def

RE: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37 AM > My question: what, technically, prevents me from copying the booting > software instead to /sbin and booting the system that way? Nothing; in fact, this was the general solution to the problem of "something else

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> > If this is all you need, I recommend you use dracut. The default > > installation (no use-flags or optional modules) will product an > > initramfs that loads whatever you current rootfs and /usr partitions are. > > > > I've been working on updating the wiki with more detailed > > instructions;

RE: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:27 AM > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:02:02AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37 AM > > > > M

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Mike Edenfield wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that a stable Dracut is a prerequisite for a stable > > udev-182+. Hopefully with more people taking interest in using an > > initramfs it will stabilize quickly. It's workin

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: c...@chrekh.se [mailto:c...@chrekh.se] > > Neil Bothwick writes: > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:26:46 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > >> > As you move more and more software off of /usr into / you start to > >> > realize that the idea of "tiny partition that contains just what I > >> >

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk] > Yes it is, I now I used to waste my time like that. Now I have a config file that > lists what needs to go into the initramfs and the kernel build automatically > pulls everything in for me. The only other thing I need is the init script. So I >

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Thing is, I can't get dracut to boot a system as I use it. See my other post. > Right now, my plan is to mask udev at what it is and either switch to another > distro, hope someone figures out why dracut isn't working or just move > everything to / an

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > > Hi, Alan. > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 + > > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > > That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to > > > copy (not move) booting

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Canek Peláez Valdés [mailto:can...@gmail.com] > I agree with most of what you say; however, I believe you are mistaken > about the static nature of the binaries in the initramfs created by dracut. I > use dracut with the whole bang (plymouth, systemd, udev, you name it), and > I don't hav

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info] > On Mar 28, 2012 11:27 AM, "Mike Edenfield" wrote: >> Well, for one, the initramfs solution is not generally considered "ugly" >> except by a select vocal few who object to it on vague, unarticulated >> gro

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Incidentally, dracut says it won't work on a kernel without modules. I don't > know if it's true or not. dracut wants you to have loadable module /support/ in your kernel so it can scan for modules needed by the rootfs. The kernel-module support in d

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk] > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:50:04 -0500, Dale wrote: > > > So throw out my plans and just do it their way? In that case, I may > > as well use Fedora since it sort of started there. Maybe that is what > > they wanted and planned. > > According to

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Hi, Mike. > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:24:14AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > > > > Hi, Alan. > > > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKi

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > I had to reboot so I made a new init thingy with the -H switch. It works in > Console but nothing root works in KDE. I get the same error. > Heck, Konsole won't even try to come up much less ask for my password. > Krusader asks for password and says th

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] > OK, semantics. Let me re-phrase: > > Why is a third party script, running in the context of the udev universe, > indiscriminately allowed to launch daemons at early boot time? > > I don't think I agree with Neil in that this is a udev desi

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:04 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting > software to /sbin rather than initramfs? > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:35:36 -0400, Michael Mol

RE: [gentoo-user] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Jason Weisberger [mailto:jbdu...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 2:11 PM > It would figure that some in the Linux community would > consider a sub 1.0 release as the birthday of a project :). You were sub-1.0 when you were born, why not Gentoo? Besides, the 1999 "birthday" ref

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-03 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/2/2012 11:12 PM, Dale wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Actually, the initramfs finished without a single error: between [1.962007] dracut: + source_conf /etc/conf.d and [2.395576] dracut: Switching root there is not a single error. The initramfs did what it needed to do; the u

RE: [gentoo-user] Just a heads-up, I think =sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r3 is a stinker.

2012-04-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Michael Mol [mailto:mike...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:54 PM > I can no longer ssh into either inara or kaylee. Clearly they are busy fsck'ing /malcom and /simon

Re: [gentoo-user] convert wmv to mp4?

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/1/2012 6:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Sort of painful to start maintaining a 32-bit chroot just to handle this sort of thing. I suspect there's some freeware for the Windows world that might allow me to do the conversion in a VM. I'll start looking for that. The web site that advertised conver

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit xulrunner version?

2011-02-10 Thread Mike Edenfield
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 18:32 -0500, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a way to install a 32bit version of xulrunner? > > An application I am using on top of eclipse apparently needs a 32bit > version. Don't know exactly why... Currently I have: xulrunner is in the multilib layman ove

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrade

2011-02-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 02/14/2011 04:03 PM, Fzinc wrote: > Hi. > > Im trying to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.35-gentoo-r12 to > linux-2.6.36-gentoo-r5 just copied the .config from the old one and did a > make oldconfig as i usually do > but when i tried to compile it got this message: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

2011-02-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 2/23/2011 10:57 AM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> This isn't much help, you need the parts where the KDE/QT packages are >> shown as ebuild, not nomerge. That will show you what is requiring them. >> >> emerge -ept | grep -B 4 kdelibs should find that for you, or >> >> emerge -ept | most

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to a hardened profile and back again

2011-03-16 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/15/2011 2:05 PM, Grant wrote: > A dev is asking me to switch to a hardened profile in order to test a > fix. I'm happy to go through the process, but is there a chance my > laptop could be unusable after the switch? If that happens I'll be in > real trouble. Will I be able to switch back to

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I find all "orphaned" files?

2011-03-25 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/25/2011 5:33 AM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:33:38 -0500, Dale wrote: >> >> >>> Naturally this returned a lot so we have to use common sense before >>> deleting something. That said, what about these: >>> >>> /usr/bin/cc >>> /usr/bin/c++ >>> /usr/bin/c89 >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world

2011-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/28/2011 6:20 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:11:55 -0400, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: > >> Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. >> Maybe it's the people who use html mail? >> Neil Bothwick's posts often have the "==20", but usually just one or >> two. Some pos

Re: [gentoo-user] Which 'tools' package for VMware DomU?

2011-03-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/30/2011 12:55 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Hello, list! > > I want to deploy some Gentoo-based VMs on VMware. From portage-search, > I see some 'tools' related to VMware, namely: > > * vmware-tools > > * open-vm-tools > > * open-vm-tools-kmod > > What are the differences? And which one shoul

Re: [gentoo-user] Which 'tools' package for VMware DomU?

2011-03-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/30/2011 2:57 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 3/30/2011 12:55 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> Hello, list! >> >> I want to deploy some Gentoo-based VMs on VMware. From portage-search, >> I see some 'tools' related to VMware, namely: >> >> * vmware-

Re: [gentoo-user] Which 'tools' package for VMware DomU?

2011-03-31 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/31/2011 4:31 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: The specific modules you mentioned are included in your kernel already, assuming you are using at least a 2.6.34 kernel. You'll still want to install open-vm-tools, which installs the other modules via open-vm-tools-kmod, like vsock and vmci, plus the us

Re: [gentoo-user] Which 'tools' package for VMware DomU?

2011-04-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/1/2011 2:09 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Hmmm... I've compiled VMXNET into the kernel, but can't get VMXNET to > perform; booting complained of inexistent network. > > Adding e1000 into the kernel works though. > > Could it be because the Cloud Provider has preconfigured my VMware > vSphere wi

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to emerge sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5

2011-04-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/4/2011 8:07 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: MAKEOPTS="-j3" {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:146362: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing .cfi_endproc directive xgcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1) This kind of error is often caused by the parallel make not q

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to emerge sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5

2011-04-05 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/5/2011 3:03 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 19:34, Mike Edenfield wrote: >> On 4/4/2011 8:07 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >>> MAKEOPTS="-j3" >> >>> {standard input}: Assembler messages: >>> {standard input}:146362: Er

Re: [gentoo-user] .config file for gentoo guest on vmware workstation 7.1.4

2011-04-10 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/9/2011 3:02 AM, Adam Carter wrote: I had a working .config. Unfortunately, I left it at office. The main 'trap' usually would be the SCSI Driver. If you're using PVSCSI, go into SCSI & RAID, then SCSI Low Level Driver, then select VMware PVSCSI as built-in, not module.

Re: [gentoo-user] .config file for gentoo guest on vmware workstation 7.1.4

2011-04-10 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/9/2011 4:57 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 17:02:14 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: If you're using PVSCSI, go into SCSI& RAID, then SCSI Low Level Driver, then select VMware PVSCSI as built-in, not module. Do you know which one workstation uses? AFAICT there's no option to choo

Re: [gentoo-user] .config file for gentoo guest on vmware workstation 7.1.4

2011-04-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/11/2011 3:43 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:17:12 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > >>>> Do you know which one workstation uses? AFAICT there's no option to >>>> choose which controller is presented to the guest. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] SMB/CIFS or NFS?

2011-04-21 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/20/2011 9:21 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Okay, I'm combining the portage distfiles dir into a storage server. > > Problem: the storage server is Windows 2003. > > Question: should I mount the distfile dir using SMB/CIFS or NFS? Is > there any performance and/or complexity issues? My own anecd

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-config: Active gcc profile is invalid!

2011-04-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/27/2011 8:16 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo. > > I got the error message > > gcc-config: error: could not run/locate 'x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' > > whilst trying to emerge something. Running gcc-config myself > # gcc-config -l, I get back this error message: > > * gcc-conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/11/2011 9:40 AM, Dale wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 05/11/2011 03:33 PM, Dale wrote: >>> root@fireball / # cat /etc/make.conf | grep utf >>> LC_ALL="en_US.utf8" >>> root@fireball / # Putting your LC_* values in make.conf means they're only going to apply when you are building thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/11/2011 12:54 PM, Dale wrote: > root@fireball / # locale -a > C > POSIX > en_US > en_US.iso88591 > en_US.utf8 So you have three locales installed (C and POSIX are internal and always present) that are the same language and region with different character sets. You probably don't need to do t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/11/2011 12:02 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 05/11/2011 06:53 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 05/11/2011 06:42 PM, Dale wrote: >>> That was quick: >>> >>> root@fireball / # grep LC_ALL /etc/env.d/* >>> root@fireball / # >>> >>> Guess that is not in env.d anywhere. :/ >> >> Then I guess y

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/11/2011 6:51 PM, Dale wrote: Does this look more better? root@fireball / # locale LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF8" LC_PAPER, is that like paper in my printer? What the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/11/2011 7:31 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 11 May 2011 22:14:55 Mike Edenfield wrote: The only problem with LC_ALL is that it overrides all of the other LC_* variables. - which is precisely what most ordinary desktop users want. In such a case it's a useful shor

Re: [gentoo-user] Virtual Packages

2011-05-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/11/2011 5:43 PM, John wrote: Have noticed that some packages require virtual packages to installed as well. For example when installing dev-db/mysql, virtual/mysql is installed as well. What are the purposes of these "virtual" packages?? They allow other packages to depend on the presenc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/12/2011 5:21 AM, Dale wrote: Mike Edenfield wrote: On 5/11/2011 6:51 PM, Dale wrote: Does this look more better? root@fireball / # locale LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF8" LC_ME

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