[gentoo-user] pager independant of window manager

2008-11-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone tell me if there is a desktop pager that can be run regardless of window manager? I suspect the kde (kpager) might do it but I'm not willing to fuss with the kdelibs and qt-3.3 pkgs required to install it. Browsing through portage, It appears there is not such a critter.

[gentoo-user] Re: pager independant of window manager

2008-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Samstag, 29. November 2008 18:32:34 schrieb Rodrigo Lazo: > >> I think he mean a pager like this: >> >> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbpager/ > > Aargh, stupid me. Yes, there's two meanings of "pager". He he... caught you in a dumb move... since y

[gentoo-user] Re: pager independant of window manager

2008-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Rodrigo Lazo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbpager/ Yeah, I knew about that one and have tried it but its no more aware than bbpager (blackbox). By that I mean, clicking inside the pager does not transport you to that desktop. At least I did not see that h

[gentoo-user] Re: pager independant of window manager

2008-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
"Joshua Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well... (pulling from http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbpager/ ) > in ~/.fluxbox/fbpager set: > fbpager.icons: true > fbpager.changeWorkspaceButton: 1 > > and in the case of bbpager (which doesn't support icons), > in ~/.bbtools/bbpager.bb and ~/.bbtool

[gentoo-user] Re: pager independant of window manager

2008-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > exist a pager , independent and more usefull than the traditional > f/bbpafger , is "ipager"... > > > ...go here [http://www.useperl.ru/ipager/index.en.html] > Thanks... yes looks interesting.

[gentoo-user] [OT] Other repositories

2008-12-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I've seen it discussed here about how to access other repositories besides the default ones shown on the mirrors link at gentoo.org. But am completely drawing blanks now trying to remember how I might go about accessing other repos... also could use a word of advice as to which are reliable or wha

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Other repositories

2008-12-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 4 December 2008, 23:16, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> I've seen it discussed here about how to access other repositories >> besides the default ones shown on the mirrors link at gentoo.org. >> >> But a

[gentoo-user] modules in use

2008-12-05 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I tell which modules of those listed by `lsmod' are actually being used? In the situation during an install when the livecd has loaded every module known to man... how can I tell which are actually being use for my hardware? The network is easy enough since only one is loaded but there mu

[gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
"Paul Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ ... ] (good input, thanks posters) Paul wrote: > Yes, I think the only real solution is to remove things and see what > breaks. So is there consensus here that Pauls' comment above is right? »Q« choose the example of his wireless module > I see

[gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
»Q« <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I see the same kind of thing, using alsa instead of oss. But Whatever > the 0's mean, the output of lsmod won't be enough to help the OP, who > really wants to be able to tell what modules are *needed*. > > $ lsmod | grep iwl > iwl4965 185000 0 > m

[gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I see something in lsmod that really is confusing: > lsmod > Module Size Used by > [...] > ipv6 220812 16 > [...] > > And I have ipv6 set negative (-ipv6) in /make.conf > So

[gentoo-user] boot to console (text) mode

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry for the lamer question but apparently things have changed since the days when putting default 3 in /etc/inittab would make the OS boot to text (console) mode. I'm running a vmappliance of gentoo-2008.0 from June and attempting to bring it up to date. Its setup to run xfce on boot. Looking

[gentoo-user] Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
I've had this silly problem for mnths and have posted on it here some time ago. I've thoroughly exhausted my meager knowledge and attempted any fixes suggested here. I'm running an uptodate 2008.0 (not the vmware I posted about in another thread) my main desktop at home. I have simple assigned I

[gentoo-user] Re: boot to console (text) mode

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You may want to check /etc/rc.conf and make sure it is not starting > there. I'm assuming you want to boot to the default level but just not > wanting the GUI to start. You may want search for softlevel and add > that to your boot loader. Thanks... yes /etc/rc

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:35:34 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> All sitting behind a netgear FVS-318 >> >> None and I mean absolutely none of those other machines have any >> trouble pinging out to the internet. > &g

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window >> irtt Iface >> 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:30:05 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Yes Its a Netgear FVS-318 router at the head of my home lan between >> lan and internet cable modem. > > Can you ping the router? Yes, usually my first test dur

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:44:35 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Not only can I ping the router... but I can connect with tcp to >> anything I want to on the internet. >> >> Its just that I can't ping the inte

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
"Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree with Neil. It sounds like a router issue. Possibly a DMZ > setting in the router is the same as the IP of the machine that > doesn't work correctly so the ping gets to the DMZ and the response is > sent out to the Internet instead of back inside?

[gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been monkeying around with a vmware appliance of gentoo.2008.0 from July. Downloaded from bagvapp.com. It fired right up inside vmware running on winXP with no problems. But now updating I'm finding I cannot get a newer kernel compiled that will boot. The original kernel is 2.6.24-r8 and b

[gentoo-user] Re: Need to recover corrupt disk drive...

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, I'm looking for advise. What should I try before I just blow it all > away and start over? I REALLY would like to get my system > restored/fixed, though. > > Any ideas would be most appreciated. I have'nt seen something like that happen before. You said g

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've posted two horribly long configs here: > > http://www.jtan.com/~/reader/massive/ Sorry.. I screwed up the url. It should be: http://www.jtan.com/~reader/massive/ (no leading diag line before `reader') The pa

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
"Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I will be no real help but I run the rt-sources kernel from the > pro-audio overlay. (Not vmware - just a normal Gentoo machine) I have > run a 2.6.24-rt version for a long time and it runs great. I recently > tried the 2.6.27-rt version and I had to giv

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
"John J. Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:56:39PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: >> I've been monkeying around with a vmware appliance of gentoo.2008.0 >> from July. Downloaded from bagvapp.com. >> >> It fired right up

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
"John J. Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yeah, running 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 in vmplayer on XP. I was getting the same > error till I read somewhere about trying the noapic option. Fired right > up. Here's my grub.conf entry for the kernel in case it helps. > title Gentoo Linux 2.6.23-r9 > root

[gentoo-user] [OT] Anyone running 2.6.27* kernel as guest in vmware?

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I hope I don't get torched for posting several OT threads recently but I'm really at my wits end with getting a newer kernel to work in gentoo guest on windows XP inside a virtual machine. I wondered if any kind sole who has a 2.6.27-* kernel working in that situation would mind sending me the .co

[gentoo-user] kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
I happen to be stuck with a machine using an initramfs. Every of attempt of mine to build a new kernel not using an initram (Or even with initram) has failed with the boot routine failing to recognize my /dev/sdb3 as root. Its a gentoo vmappliance running on windows xp pro. I'm not asking about

[gentoo-user] How to tie module name to Kernel CONFIG

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Summary: How can I tie a module name (tg3) to a kernel config line? Details: Usually its kind of obvious if you dig around in .config a bit, but now always. I find the module at /lib/modules/2.6.24*/: ../kernel/drivers/net/tg3.ko But I haven't been able to nail that to a kernel config line. Sea

[gentoo-user] Re: kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2008 19:53:10 schrieb Harry Putnam: >> I happen to be stuck with a machine using an initramfs. Every of attempt >> of mine to build a new kernel not using an initram (Or even with initram) >> has f

[gentoo-user] Re: How to tie module name to Kernel CONFIG

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But help is at hand! > The .config option you are looking for is CONFIG_TIGON3 My last > notebook had one of those and I searched for ages before spotting > one day that "t", "g" and "3" all appeared in "TIGON3". > > Sorry that I couldn't help with the

[gentoo-user] Re: kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You are running it in vmware right? > > Your disk type, disk adapters type and chipset in a vmware vm are > NOT the same as these device on the physical hardware. vmware > emulates a BX440 chipset, SCSI drives and LSI or BusLogic > adapter. You must use

[gentoo-user] Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
I've started a new thread on my kernel troubles. I thought the thread subject should be more indicative of the semi OT nature of the query. Also thought it might make the information that accrues here more findable for any future searchers. Here is the general setup and the general problem: vmw

[gentoo-user] Re: How to tie module name to Kernel CONFIG

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Geralt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > a generic way is: > 1) Go to /usr/src/linux > 2) grep tg3 $(find -name Makefile) Nice... I had come up with an even more shotgun approache. grep -r tg3 I didn't have enough sense to know it would be in Makefiles

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> [...] >> It worked just fine. But none of my attempts to bring the kernel up >> to date have worked. All failing with a error message something like: >> `/dev/sdb3 is not a valid device&#

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> [...] >> It worked just fine. But none of my attempts to bring the kernel up >> to date have worked. All failing with a error message something like: >> `/dev/sdb3 is not a valid device&#

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> [...] >> mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup >> ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0: Capabilities={Initiator} >> scsi4 : ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0, FwRev=h, Ports=1, MaxQ=128, IRQ=16 > > That's an LSI Fusion-MPT controller. Enable: > > Device Drivers->[*] Fusion

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > My guess is tha while inside the initrd a kenrel module was loaded > and it was something that you needed to read the boot volume. Are > you statically or modulely including your sata drivers? Sent via > BlackBerry from T-Mobile kyle, how can I discover what is in t

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>> [...] >>>> mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup >>>> ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0: Capabilities={Initiator} >>>&

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras writes: >> >>> Harry Putnam wrote: >>>> Nikos Chantziaras writes: >>>> >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup >>&g

[gentoo-user] Re: kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
"Heinrichs, Dirk (EXT-Capgemini - DE/Dusseldorf)" writes: [...] >> > What is the error message you get? Posted in thread: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP [...] > Did you try to examine the contents of that initrd with the one you > produce. Maybe somthing is missing

[gentoo-user] Re: kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
"Heinrichs, Dirk (EXT-Capgemini - DE/Dusseldorf)" writes: > Am Donnerstag, den 11.12.2008, 08:05 +0100 schrieb ext Heinrichs, Dirk > (EXT-Capgemini - DE/Dusseldorf): >> > I'll extract `exact' messages if you are willing to spend some time >> on >> > this. But I suspect we should begin another th

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs writes: > From that and the contents of the original initrd you posted in the > former thread and what others already found out: > > This initrd has all all sorts of driver modules for SATA and SCSI > chipsets, so it's most likely that you forgot to compile in the > correct drivers

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs writes: > > Forgot this one: dmesg output from the working setup. www.jtan.com/~reader/kdiag/dmesg.html

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras writes: > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> [...] >> Just to make sure you're doing it right... >> [...] > > Forgot to mention that no initrd is needed and the grub.conf should > not have an inird line. Ok Nikos... I'm going to do that right now but of course it will take a little wh

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs writes: [...] > OK, I'll give it a try. I see this in lspci [...] > and this in dmesg [...] > which then later detects the sdb partitions. > > This means that you would need to compile the following into the kernel: > > CONFIG_PCI > CONFIG_SCSI > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD > CONFIG_FU

[gentoo-user] Re: video driver discovery

2008-12-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Robert Bridge writes: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:35:35 + (UTC) > James wrote: >> How can I verify which driver(version) it is using? > > Read /etc/log/Xorg.0/log > It will tell you which driver it loaded. Sorry to butt in here.. but Robert can you show a line from your log that IDs the driver

[gentoo-user] kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Summary of request for help: Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for sure. Details: I'm at a point where any pared down kernel config I've built and tried has some terrible thing wrong with it. Usu

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras writes: [...] >>> Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make >>> menuconfig", disable everything you don't need, and compile >>> everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module. >> >> I'd say the "disable everything you don't need" part is what Harry's >>

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras writes: >> [...] >> >>>>> Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make >>>>> menuconfig", disable everything you don't need, and compile &

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale writes: > You may also want to try lspci -v. It shows you what modules the > hardware uses and it should be able to boot with those at least. Example: Well son-of-a-gun... that is nice. Thanks

[gentoo-user] [OT and ducking buckshot] How can I tell Debian version installed

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Don't shoot. I ask here because I know some here are debian users. I just created an vmware app with debian... I thought I was using the newest install media for latest release (lenny I think). But once installed (and this was a network install not from disc) I find really ancient tools.. a 2.6.

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT and ducking buckshot] How can I tell Debian version installed

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
"Charles Welton" writes: > Other than that, this is not the list for such questions. Thanks... and right you are.

[gentoo-user] What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-28 Thread Harry Putnam
I don't have an entry for net.eth1 in rc-update show I don't have any mention of eth1 in /etc/conf.d/net (only eth0) Nonetheless something continues to try to start net.eth1 during boot. What else controls that? If its not in rc-update or /etc/conf.d/net it shouldn't happen. I have a few other

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs writes: > Am Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2008 12:38:37 schrieb Harry Putnam: >> Still, on a shutdown I can't get past this output: >>   >>  hwclock waiting for localmount > > I mentioned it in your other thread. Try masking openrc >=0.4.0. Yeah, j

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Lee writes: > 1) net.eth1 problem > > There is a udev hook for starting net.* init scripts, > /lib/udev/rules.d/90-network.rules to be precise The script is very brief There is no mention of net.eth1 in that script SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add",RUN+="net.sh %k start" SUBSYSTEM=="

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs writes: > Am Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2008 12:38:37 schrieb Harry Putnam: >> Still, on a shutdown I can't get past this output: >>   >>  hwclock waiting for localmount > > I mentioned it in your other thread. Try masking openrc >=0.4.0. I've

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Lee writes: > Ian Lee wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:04:23 -0600, Dale wrote: >>> > Probably hotplug, add !net.eth0 to rc_hotplug in /etc/rc.conf >>> >>> That's in /etc/conf.d/rc on mine. Has it moved? >>> >>> It moved in the switch from baselayout1 to bas

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Lee writes: >> They are all present in /etc/runlevels. >> >> And again I see no reference to net.eth1 or hwclock >> >> > > that udev rule starts any found network devices on your system net.sh > is just a wrapper to the net.* scripts in init.d, if you never use > eth1 then remove net.eth1 fr

[gentoo-user] KVM recognition changes in recent kernels

2008-12-31 Thread Harry Putnam
kernel 2.6.27-r7 and 2.6.28 and several other earlier kenels Summary: Anyone here know more details about the kernel settings and KVM switching? Details: (and inlined dmesg) I'm not exactly sure when or what kernel was in use when this change in behavior started but its been at least 2 mnths ago

[gentoo-user] Re: Question about the Live CD

2009-01-03 Thread Harry Putnam
"Christian" writes: > Hi all, > The 2008 Live CD, does that include Gnome 2.24? Or is KDE being used? > Many thanks for any info! The desktop started is xfce4

[gentoo-user] udept dead upstream

2009-01-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Anyone else here who is a udept user? I really like the dep tool but the last few upgrades have announced the it has been masked in preparation for being dropped. The reason given is `Dead upstream'. Anyone know why that is. Is the code in terrible shape or is it being eclipsed by something els

[gentoo-user] Re: udept dead upstream

2009-01-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs writes: > Am Sonntag, 4. Januar 2009 03:01:12 schrieb Harry Putnam: >> The reason given is `Dead upstream'. >> >> Anyone know why that is. > > It means it's not developed anymore. Good god Dirk... give me a break... Uhhh yeah... not developed anymore... anyone know why that is?

[gentoo-user] update brings no recognition of tty hence no login

2009-01-04 Thread Harry Putnam
After updating today (from only a few days ago) I'm getting a situation that makes it impossible to login. unable to determine your tty name The login prompt is there but after typing in the name and hitting enter I only get the above comment. Googling on this I find a gentoo bug (245370) Dec 1

[gentoo-user] Re: update brings no recognition of tty hence no login

2009-01-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Eric Martin writes: >> Does anyone recognize this problem without further diagnostics? If >> not then I will be back to the problem machine later tonight and >> supply more information. Ideas about what info would be most useful >> would be appreciate > What packages did you update? It sounds

[gentoo-user] Re: update brings no recognition of tty hence no login

2009-01-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: [...] >>> Does anyone recognize this problem without further diagnostics? If >>> not then I will be back to the problem machine later tonight and >>> supply more information. Ideas about what info would be most useful >>> would be

[gentoo-user] Re: udept dead upstream

2009-01-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Willie Wong writes: > As to the question of "why that is"... I guess the author got bored? > The link to the package catmur.co.uk/gentoo/udept is a dead link now > (404s) I am not even sure if the original author can be reached at the > e-mail address given by Dirk. For the record I have writte

[gentoo-user] Re: udept dead upstream

2009-01-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Willie Wong writes: > So it's not perfect. equery works better, but slowly. > > I agree with you about the tools: it is hard to change one's habit and > use new tools. I keep telling myself to learn eix but just never got > around to doing it. dep outputs several kinds of trick symbols with ou

[gentoo-user] Re: weird cron mail problem

2009-01-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Philip Webb writes: >> Also, have you updated either cron or fetchmail recently? > > The problem originated 090104 c0520 , > when I edited ~/.fetchmailrc to delete the reference to a logfile. > However, attempts to restore the STATVS QVO ANTE have failed: > I've restored the previous version of

[gentoo-user] Re: weird cron mail problem

2009-01-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Philip Webb writes: > 090106 Willie Wong wrote: >> you may want to change the root line to "root=purslow", >> so the mail gets sent to purslow instead of postmaster >> (which according to /etc/mail/aliases becomes root again). > > That doesn't work, but adding '> /dev/null' or '-s' in crontab d

[gentoo-user] nfs failing to start

2009-01-10 Thread Harry Putnam
I've apparently forgotten whatever little I may have know about setting up nfs from having used it long ago. I found a brief help page on google that I used to get this far along at: http://linux-bsd-sharing.blogspot.com/2008/09/howto-setup-nfs-server-on-gentoo.html Its very brief and has no debu

[gentoo-user] [cifs] permissions of mounted share

2009-01-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Note this is a cross post here and debian.user.. the server is gentoo the client is debian. It's kind of a phony cross post though since I didn't think to do this until I'd already posted on debian user... So its really a second post with the same content. Some consider that a phaux paux(?)... S

[gentoo-user] Re: [cifs] permissions of mounted share

2009-01-11 Thread Harry Putnam
"Arttu V." writes: > On 1/11/09, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Any regular files I create on the mounted share end up 744. >> >> Can I set a umask in the mount syntax or what do I need to do here to >> have the files keep the standard permissions? > > for

[gentoo-user] Re: nfs failing to start

2009-01-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > I've apparently forgotten whatever little I may have know about > setting up nfs from having used it long ago. [...] > After setting all nfs related kernel items and booting the kernel. > Checking that mods appears to be installed and running. Making

[gentoo-user] Re: how to extract driver info from genkernel

2009-01-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Denis writes: >> You can use the "lspci" command, its in the pciutils package (if I'm >> not mistaken) to get your system hardware information. > > Just like magic :-) Thank you so much! If you liked lspci you will really like lspci -v. Pointed out to me recently here: From: Dale Subject:

[gentoo-user] Unusual console input problem certain keys dead

2009-01-14 Thread Harry Putnam
I've run into a problem I've never experienced. I'll try to describe the setup first, then the phenomena: Gateway laptop core due gentoo 2008.0 kernel-2.6.26-r1 running in a vmware app on vista home. Let me say here that This app has run well for sometime but left alone for quite awhile. I'm n

[gentoo-user] Re: Unusual console input problem certain keys dead

2009-01-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Willie Wong writes: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:59:17PM -0600, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam > squawked: >> Key `e' and `/' when pressed just do nothing whatever. I think >> there way be a bell since I see a flash when ssh'd in from and >> Xterm in a X sess

[gentoo-user] Re: Unusual console input problem certain keys dead

2009-01-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Willie Wong writes: > As to how I know C-v is verbatim? That came from trying to create > ASCII art by hand ... :) He he... yeah thats the way thinking works... bouncing around like that. I've used C-v for years as a way to see what is actually being sent from the keyboard.. I never knew it mea

[gentoo-user] Re: Append string on Kernel builds

2009-01-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Robert Bridge writes: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:36:42 -0600 > rea...@newsguy.com wrote: >> What I asked was if there is some tricky syntax I could use on that >> kernel setting that would do: linux-2.6.26-gentoo-$HOST-N >> Where N is an incremented number every time I build the kernel without >>

[gentoo-user] Re: uvesafb - does it require use of initramfs/initrd?

2009-01-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras writes: > rea...@newsguy.com wrote: >> Paul Hartman writes: >> >>> I'm ashamed to admit I made the most basic mistake. I compiled uvesafb >>> as a module. Oops! Compiled it as "Y" instead of "M" and now I have a >>> pair of Tux sitting atop my kernel boot screen and no more 80x

[gentoo-user] More on /sys files

2009-01-17 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm in the process of rsyncing an OS to a remote file system. when rsyncing /sys to remote /sys... I get piles of errors of the form: WARNING: devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/ACPI_CPU:00/power/wakeup failed verification -- update discarded (will try again). This is after a session failed so I'm

[gentoo-user] Re: More on /sys files

2009-01-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Vladimir Rusinov writes: > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> What do I need to do to get remote /sys to mirror local /sys >> Will booting the remote... once the transfer is done cure the problem? >> > > Why do you need to sync /sys? It

[gentoo-user] Re: Restricting Firefox website access

2009-01-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller writes: > But I had expected Squid + module to be the answer, and no-one > mentioned it. A couple of clowns mentioned OpenDNS, and DansGuardian > was the only serious reply I got, so you might want to look at that, > too. > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/175114 > > I r

[gentoo-user] Re: Restricting Firefox website access

2009-01-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Grant writes: >>> But I had expected Squid + module to be the answer, and no-one >>> mentioned it. A couple of clowns mentioned OpenDNS, and DansGuardian >>> was the only serious reply I got, so you might want to look at that, >>> too. >>> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/175114

[gentoo-user] Re: Append string on Kernel builds

2009-01-18 Thread Harry Putnam
David Relson writes: > How about an external tool? I use sed to fill in LOCALVERSION, e.g. > > V=$( date "+%m%d.%H%M" ) > cp -p .config .config.old > sed s/LOCALVERSION.*/LOCALVERSION=\"$V\"/ < .config.old > .config > > make vmlinux modules modules_install Ahaa ... that looks just like

[gentoo-user] homemade nas setup

2009-01-29 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been looking into setting up or getting somekind of nas storage/backup capability lately so thought I'd ask about it here since I'm sure some of you will be using something or will have built your own. After looking at a few on google .. I'm a little surprised at the high end pricetags and ev

[gentoo-user] Re: homemade nas setup

2009-01-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Peter Humphrey writes: > On Friday 30 January 2009 00:06:05 Harry Putnam wrote: > >> I've been looking into setting up or getting somekind of nas >> storage/backup capability lately so thought I'd ask about it here >> since I'm sure some of you will be usi

[gentoo-user] Re: homemade nas setup

2009-01-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Norman Rieß writes: > The system only runs nfs, samba and a cups server. I do not use some > fancy guis or anything like that. So settings have to be made in the > config files manualy, except the cupsd which brings a web gui. Maybe > that is something some people would miss. But i do not think a

[gentoo-user] Ext4 another thread

2009-01-30 Thread Harry Putnam
I didn't want to derail the existing thread discussing ext4 with this angle ... I'm guessing there may be comments that will not be helpful to that OP. I'm wondering what people running ext4 are seeing in practice that makes it better than ext3 or reiserfs? Is it safer journalling? Faster read/wri

[gentoo-user] Re: Ext4 another thread

2009-01-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert Hopkins writes: > Depending on your usage you might see significant improvements or hardly > any at all. Best way to know for sure is to try it out. Note however > that on ext4 journal checksums are *on* by default (and off on ext3 > iirc). So when you are comparing performance you shoul

[gentoo-user] Re: Ext4 another thread

2009-01-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs writes: > sense. The one that really brings something new to the Linux > filesystem world will be btrfs. I've already tried some older > versions of it and it looks very promising. Volumes, RAID, data > integrity, etc, all integrated into the filesystem, similar to Suns > ZFS. Ahh

[gentoo-user] Re: homemade nas setup

2009-01-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Norman Rieß writes: >> Is it connected into 10/100 or 1000 (gigabit) setup? >> > It is a gigabit setup. NFS read is about 30-34MB/s, writing is > considerably slower with 15MB/s. So writing is a bit slow. But as i do > not need fast storage i did not investigate. And it must be mentioned, >

[gentoo-user] Re: homemade nas setup

2009-01-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Matt Harrison writes: > I know its a little OT, but I have to mention ZFS. It'll mean running > Solaris or FreeBSD in order to get the best out of it, but it's worth > it. > > I changed my fileserver from a gentoo box with software raid and lvm > over to ZFS on OpenSolaris and I haven't looked ba

[gentoo-user] Re: homemade nas setup

2009-01-31 Thread Harry Putnam
Matt Harrison writes: >> Are you backing up any windows boxes onto the ZFS? Is it just a matter >> of making it available by way of samba/cifs? > >I'm using it for both attached storage via ISCSI, and standard sharing >on a domain via cifs. I've got backups running from linux and windows >boxes on

[gentoo-user] hwinfo build error

2009-01-31 Thread Harry Putnam
Trying to emerge hwinfo I get the error output inlined below. I see a list of warnings about undeclared this and that coming from the src files but not sure what it means. Anyone here that can recognize what the problem is? (tail of output) [...] DFORCE_POST -D_CEXPORT= -DNO_LONG_LONG -I. -Ix86

[gentoo-user] [OT] Panning desktop on windows

2009-01-31 Thread Harry Putnam
This list may be too good for its own good... hehe. Sorry to bring this up here but in fact the behavior I'll describe in a moment is something I've learned to love from yrs of linux us with this enabled. Including the last few yrs on gentoo. I add this into xorg.conf in one of the display subse

[gentoo-user] Re: hwinfo build error

2009-01-31 Thread Harry Putnam
Willie Wong writes: >> i10_v86.c:486: error: 'TF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function) >> i10_v86.c:486: error: 'NT_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function) > > see bug 236449 on b.g.o. > > recent kernel headers renamed some things and breaks the code. > > a patched ebuild is availa

[gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:38:48 -0500, ABCD wrote: > >> To be precise, the config option CONFIG_LOCALVERSION appends a string to >> the end of the kernel version, which installkernel uses to place the >> kernel image. > > You can get the same effect by creating a file called

[gentoo-user] Gack... cups docu

2009-02-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Anyone else have trouble accessing cups documentation? Here using http://localhost:631 just fails with standard message unable to connect to server at 631. The html stuff under /usr/share/cups/html/ appears to have the href links setup so that they point to somewhere on the file system that does

[gentoo-user] Re: Gack... cups docu

2009-02-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > Anyone else have trouble accessing cups documentation? > > Here using http://localhost:631 just fails with standard message > unable to connect to server at 631. > > The html stuff under /usr/share/cups/html/ > appears to have the href links setup

[gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale writes: > The problem I ran into when I copied the old way, cp > arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot, that wasn't the kernel but was a link to > the kernel in the x86 directory tree. When I copied the link then the > link got broke and then it appeared red on my screen. I thought I was > going nu

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