I just rsync the old drive into the new one, and
then I chroot (or, more often, I systemd-nspawn) into it and update the old
configuration where necesary. Unless you change from Intel to AMD it should
be fine (and even then it could be fine, depending on your CFLAGS).
Also, have a live USB around to b
ages, my flatpak repositories are using 13Gb, which is
nothing for my hard drive; but it will duplicate libraries from your
regular Linux distribution.
Also, I run systemd; I *think* it's necessary to run flatpak.
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ion runs in an individual container), but the
both look normal.
Regards.
[1] https://aztlan.fciencias.unam.mx/~canek/inkscape-gentoo.jpg
[2] https://aztlan.fciencias.unam.mx/~canek/inkscape-flatpak.jpg
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:30 PM Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2019-01-25, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 12:48 PM Grant Edwards <
> grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>[...]
> >>
> >> Is it practical to use flatpak apps on Gentoo?
&
ramfs, which it just works.
Arguing against this trivial (and IMHO, elegant) solution is tilting at
windmills. Specially if it is for ideological reasons instead of technical
ones.
Regards.
[1] I firmly believe that's the situation nowadays.
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ase clarify what "this trivial solution" is. Are you referring to
> initramfs / initrd or the 'split-user' USE flag?
The trivial solution (IMO) is to use an initramfs. Rich gave a much more
elaborated answer.
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ager to temporarily switch user without logging out,
> suggestions?
> I'd go with openRC, non-wayland if possible. I never got accustomed to
> systemd.
>
Have you considered using Xfce? I think it has all the features you want,
and it's pretty lightweight.
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On Nov 8, 2013 4:27 PM, "Pavel Volkov" wrote:
>
> Does sys-fs/udev-init-scripts serve any purpose on a system that:
> 1. Has systemd installed and openrc uninstalled
> 2. Has INSTALL_MASK="/etc/init.d/" set in make.conf
>
> I'm asking because sys-fs/udev-init-scripts is a dependency of sys-
> apps
t, and the corresponding userspace tools,
including fsck.xfs.
You *MAY* add whatever else you want in your initramfs (I add the
drivers for my USB keyboard, so in case of emergencies I can actually
type commands), but the only parts you *MUST* include are the ones you
need to mount (and check) your root and /usr partitions.
I strongly recommend dracut; the modules listed in DRACUT_MODULES are
usually self explanatory, and it Just Works™.
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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-11-12 5:50 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> You*MUST* add the necessary modules/tools to mount root and/or /usr.
>>
>> So if you have an XFS partition on a LVM volume on top of an mdraid,
>> and the
If you do "systemctl isolate emergency.target" then remount /
read/write, do the move, and then again isolate multi-user.target or
graphical.target, I think is possible. I will try on a virtual
machine; is an interesting question. You would need to use absolute
pathnames when actually p
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Jc García wrote:
>> 2013/12/2 William Kenworthy
>>>
>>> You are looking far too deep
>>>
>>>
>>> just rsync -avP to /newusr
>>
>&g
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Jc García wrote:
> 2013/12/3 Canek Peláez Valdés :
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Jc García wrote:
>>>> 2013/12/2 William Kenworthy
>
rk under OpenRC from
3.10 on, you could get strange fails with gdm and
gnome-settings-daemon. If it's gdm-3.8, then I think you can use
systemd as udev replacement together with OpenRC, and I believe some
people did it successfully.
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Róbert Čerňanský wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:18:54 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Róbert Čerňanský
>> wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I am currently updating my system a
configure
options enabled than OpenRC.
To change back, usually you will only need to unemerge systemd, emerge
udev, and perhaps USE="-systemd" emerge -uDNvp @world. Be warned that
the best thing to do is to do it from a LiveCD; if you boot with
systemd, and uninstalled it, I don'
1.policy
>
> LC_ALL=C /usr/bin/intltool-merge -x -u -c ./po/.intltool-merge-cache
> /mnt/h/portage-tmpdir/portage/sys-apps/systemd-208-r2/work/systemd-208/po
> /mnt/h/portage-tmpdir/portage/sys-apps/systemd-208-r2/work/systemd-208/src/hostname/org.freedesktop.hostname1.policy.in
> src/hostname/org.freedesktop.hostname1.policy
>
> Cannot open src/hostname/org.freedesktop.hostname1.policy: No such file or
> directory
That is weird.
> Generating and caching the translation database
>
> Merging translations into src/hostname/org.freedesktop.hostname1.policy.
>
> make[2]: *** [src/hostname/org.freedesktop.hostname1.policy] Error 2
>
> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
>
> Cannot open src/timedate/org.freedesktop.timedate1.policy: No such file or
> directory
Have you tried to emerge it with MAKEOPTS="-j1"?
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On Dec 6, 2013 9:20 PM, wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 06 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM, wrote:
> >> I hadn't synced one of my stable boxes for a while and tried today.
> >> This brings in gnome-3.8 and with it system
On Dec 7, 2013 12:40 PM, "walt" wrote:
>
> Just updated my stable amd64 machine to use systemd and all is working
> okay except for the lvm.service.
>
> The lvm.service starts with no errors, but OTOH it finds no physical or
> logical volumes. I suspect this happens because the drive using lvm2
>
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:15 AM, walt wrote:
> On 12/07/2013 05:58 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 07 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2013 12:40 PM, "walt" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just updated my stable amd64 mach
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM, walt wrote:
> On 12/08/2013 10:39 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 11:12:23 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>>> It has the same problem. I looked more carefully at the systemd logs
>>>> and found that
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Sam Jorna wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 09/12/13 09:36, walt wrote:
>> On 12/08/2013 10:39 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 11:12:23 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>
>>&
gmail.com my DACRON TANK TOP in a
>cheap hotel in HONOLULU!
>
>
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then it should only take effect for users who have the capability
> enabled (though I haven't been able to get that to work yet).
I think the problem is that you want to use capabilities in a way that
they are not designed for: you don't set capabilities at development
time, you
ve, but the actual behavior is not consistent.
>
> My system is ~amd64, profile gnome/systemd
>
> My wireless driver is from the package broadcom-sta (wl)
I have never used wicd, so I can't say exactly what it's the problem;
but I was under the impression that wicd is basical
rvice failed, but in fact the lvm drive
> was mounted and working as expected after I logged in.
>
> Anyone else seeing strange error messages from systemd during boot?
Did you rebuild your initramfs?
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On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 13/12/2013 00:47, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, wrote:
>>> At home I use a wired connection so did notice the following problem
>>> until I traveled and tried to connect wirel
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 13/12/2013 14:57, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Alan McKinnon
>> wrote:
>>> On 13/12/2013 00:47, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM,
ttpd, without using socket activation, the
one that starts second will fail since the first one will grab port
80. Again, nothing that systemd (nor OpenRC, nor any other init
system) can do about it.
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On Jan 16, 2014 3:23 AM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:32:00 -0800, walt wrote:
>
> > > I get this on my desktop but not my laptop. I have tried for ages to
> > > find out why it only fails on the desktop and gave up. Now I just
> > > "chmod +x /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-h
On Jan 18, 2014 4:02 PM, wrote:
>
> My main system is a dell latitude E6430s. I am embarrassed to say
> that, although I have had this system for a while, I just now realized
> that it has a build in webcam. What software do you recommend and what
> should I start reading to learn how to use it
me what can I
> do to
> resove this problem?
I think it's a bug, but in the meantime (as a workaround) you can put
the following script in
/usr/lib/systemd/system-shutdown/nfs-force-umount:
-
#!/bin/sh
/bin/umount -l /media/NAS
-------
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:30 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Jan 18, 2014 4:02 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> My main system is a dell latitude E6430s. I am embarrassed to say
>>> that, although I have had this system for a while
On Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM, wrote:
>
> Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I tried updating 3.10.17 to
> 3.10.25. As expected make oldconfig showed nothing new, so I thought
> the new kernel would just work.
>
> However gdm failed, with several pairs of messages
>
> Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[27
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:54 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I tried updating 3.10.17 to
>>> 3.10.25. As expected make oldconfig showed nothi
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:54 PM, wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 22 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I trie
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:37 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 23.01.2014 06:23, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>>> I'm checking how to get the nvidia drivers in 3.13.
>>
>> Got it:
>>
>> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/644906/331-20-on
ed to know what services you have enabled.
Regards.
[1]
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
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On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Mansour Al Akeel
wrote:
> Canek,
> Thank you. The output is attached.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Mansour Al Akeel
>> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>&
to try, change your fstab to set x-systemd.device-timeout=5;
without a suffix, so the time specified should be in seconds.
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and creates
links under /dev/disk. In GNOME 3 udisks is the one doing the actual
mounting (AFAIU); with GNOME 2 it was gnome-volume-manager, etc.
What DE do you use? Are you using something like pmount?
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'd be
> reluctant to let him do it.
>
> Any official sysadmins out there have an infallible opinion to offer?
With GNOME+systemd (and therefore, logind), the seat0 user gets
ownership of all removable devices (except printers, see above), and
the hardware buttons (poweroff, reset, suspend, etc.) No root password
asked. Ever.
You can see your seat with loginctl; if your seat is not seat0, that's
why your password is being asked. If it's seat0, then something else
is going on. Do you have pam_systemd.so enabled in /etc/pam.d?
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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Amankwah wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:24:46AM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:45 AM, 刘洋 wrote:
>> > journalctl --boot=-1
>> > -- Logs begin at Tuesday 2013-12-24 21:48:33 CST, end at Friday
&
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Joseph wrote:
> On 02/04/14 18:03, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to go from "systemd" to "udev"?
>>>
>>> I don
On Feb 4, 2014 7:28 PM, "Joseph" wrote:
>
> On 02/04/14 18:38, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>
>>> I'm using XFCE It all started to happen after I switched to systemd. So
>>> maybe on the weekend I'll try to switch one of
On Feb 4, 2014 7:30 PM, "Poncho" wrote:
>
> On 05.02.2014 01:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:27 PM, walt wrote:
> >> On 02/04/2014 02:29 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> &
On Feb 4, 2014 7:38 PM, "Joseph" wrote:
>
> On 02/04/14 18:03, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to go from "systemd" to "udev"?
>>>
>>> I don&#
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Joseph wrote:
> On 02/04/14 19:33, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
>> >> emerge -pv gnome-base/gvfs
>>
>> >>
>> >> If you have the gdu USE flag enabled, I recommend switching to
>> u
ease show
us the output from the following commands when inside your Xfce
session (as your normal user):
• systemctl --all --full
• loginctl (annotate your-session [first column] and your-seat [last column])
• loginctl seat-status your-seat
• loginctl session-status your-session
• loginct
ou *need*
an initramfs (this is now true also for OpenRC). Please check the
instructions set in:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd
To finish, let me remark that systemd never had problems in your
system. The problem was that you were not running systemd.
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On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Joseph wrote:
> On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>
>> [ humongous snip ]
>>
>>>> 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change
>
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Joseph wrote:
> On 02/05/14 14:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On We
│ [MASTER] graphics:fb0 "inteldrmfb"
etc.
As you can see, the seat0 owns the Power Button, the Video Bus, the Lid
Switch, etc. If you own them, then you don't need authentication to use
them.
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e the letter O instead of the digit 0?
>
>
> No, it is "0" I double checked.
> Could it be that the hard drive is going?
I don't think so. Could you show us your GRUB configuration?
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nt from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
>
> Yes, that is correct. This is a old box and in fstab all line have "hda..."
CONFIG_IDE is deprecated in the kernel and systemd/udev requires it to
be unset. It's possible that you disabled it, and
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:
> On 02/05/14 20:34, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02/06/14 01:12, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6 February 2
>=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-),gudev,introspection,kmod])
> required by (virtual/udev-208::gentoo, installed)
>>=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by
> (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>
> (sys-fs/udev-208::gentoo, installed
very three months. First backup system, if there are no
> major issues after a week or so I upgrade few other system and if everything
> goes smooth I upgrade the main system with the same three.
>
> Is is possible to have packages without "systemd" flag.
> I was just rebuild
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM, walt wrote:
> On 02/05/2014 06:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, "walt" > <mailto:w41...@gmail.com>> wrote: [ snip ]
>>> I am seat0
>
>> I'm more concerned about you being seat0, a
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:52 PM, walt wrote:
> On 02/06/2014 05:38 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM, walt wrote:
>>> On 02/05/2014 06:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>> On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, "walt" >>> <
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:25 PM, walt wrote:
> On 02/07/2014 02:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> Your seat seems to be the owner of both the power buttons and USB
>> devices, so you should not be asked for a password when powering down
>> the machine (unless another user
s.
[1]
http://www.zdnet.com/linus-torvalds-switches-back-to-gnome-3-x-desktop-712083/
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tp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
I owe you an apology Walter; I just assumed you had configured
something wrong. I'm just getting used to the fact that with GNOME
3+systemd everything kinda works immediately. Sorry.
With the above solution, everything works with Xfce
virtual machine manager (for administration of
>>the VMs on the various QEMU/KVM-hosts I run). But this is maybe by
>>design and OK in a way.
>>
>>Stefan
>
> I would not expect to have to type I the local root password when
> administering something on a remote host.
And you don't need to with logind.
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K in a way.
As I explained in the other thread (and my answer to Walt), this works
with a DM. But Walt is not using a DM.
Passing vt01 (or whatever) to Xorg fixes Walt's problem, without using a DM.
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going to work, but it's like
killing flies with cannons, and perhaps a security risk.
More importantly, it's not necessary since X.org has built in support
for logind; you just need to pass to it the virtual terminal to use so
the user session it's shared in X11.
No need to configure anything, works out-of-the-box, and you don't
even need the root password. You just need to use startx this way:
startx -- vt01
(Or vt02, or vt03, etc.) And that's it. By the way, you can also
specify the seat for X.org with -seat seatX or whatever.
And that's the beauty of logind; it's getting support everywhere
(GNOME, polkit, KDE, Xfce, barebones X), and it frees us from
modifying permissions, or adding/joining groups, or creating policykit
rules, since it does the Right Thing™.
Regards.
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On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 10.02.2014 16:12, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>>
>>> because you wrote "poll":
>>
>> Sorry? Who wrote "p
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 10.02.2014 16:13, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>>> I would not expect to have to type I the local root password when
>>> administering something on a remote host.
>>
>> And you don't nee
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 10.02.2014 16:55, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> Stefan, I'm not following you. Do you have the same problem that Walt
>> has? In your DE you are being asked for your root password when you
>> i
0 is in the tree since last December[1].
Also, which GNOME overlay? The official one[2] or Heather's[3]?
Regards.
[1] http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/gnome-base/gnome/
[2] http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/gnome.git;a=summary
[3] https://github.com/Heather
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan
>
ser' ACL element?), or
> 3. convince emerge to use a different http downloader that supports
> 'digest' authentication.
>
> I'll probably go with 1 or 2 but nevertheless is there any possibility
> to pursue 3?
man 5 make.conf, search for FETCHCOMMAND.
You could se
disappearing. The discussion that Tanstaafl posted
is interesting since the arguments used by the four TC members are really
focused on the technical merits of the proposed init systems.
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On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 15 Feb 2014 17:32:44 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Feb 15, 2014 11:02 AM, "Tanstaafl" wrote:
>> > On 2014-02-15 10:16 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> No
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 02/15/2014 02:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Mick wrote:
>>> On Saturday 15 Feb 2014 17:32:44 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>> On Feb 15, 2014 11:02 AM, "Tansta
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
>>
>> 1. sysvinit (status quo)
>> 2. systemd
>> 3. upstart
>> 4. op
), maybe from there it will come the next big thing.
> I hope that whatever the Gentoo decision may be one day, it will not
> irreversibly remove choice from us Gentoo-ers.
The only way a choice will be always available, is that someone is
willing and able to write the software to support it.
It'
is replaceable if there is someone willing and able to
write a replacement.
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
on. To
> be a realist, one has to admit that in near future 90% of new distro
> versions will be systemd-based. Unless some green soxx emerge and take over
> Red Hat...
I don't think neither time nor money had to do with Debian's (nor
Arch's, nor OpenSuse's, nor Maegia's, nor Sabayon's) decision.
It's just technically superior. But's that's just my opinion, and what
I believe ;)
So, amen? :D
Regards.
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
so you desire. But *someone* needs
to write/patch the code.
Regards.
[1] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> Am 16.02.2014 21:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>> wrote:
>> [ snip ]
>>> or it is an idiotic decision. Because features means comple
able. But I don't think the devs
will implement it, since simple dependencies seems to work up until
now, and *someone* would need to write the profile, and *someone*
would need to test it, and *someone* would need to triage bugs for it,
and *someone* would need to fix them.
If *someone*, *willing* AND *able* steps up to do ALL that work, MAYBE
it would happen.
But don't complain if no one does, and it doesn't.
Regards.
[1] https://plus.google.com/u/0/+KaySievers/posts/C3chC26khpq
[2] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:16:36 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>> wrote:
>> > Am 16.02.2014 21:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> >> On Sun, Fe
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:13:39 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> > It simply doesn't matter if systemd boils down to one monolithic binary, or
>> > 600, if they are tied together in such a way that they can
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> Sorry for entering others' dialog...
>
>
> On 17.02.2014 21:13, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Tanstaafl
>> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>&
guments instead of
splutter some nonsense about combinatorics that has nothing to do with
the subject at hand.
>> I mean, I myself know a thing or two about computing and Linux, and I
>> promote systemd (and nobody pays me, BTW), but obviously you don't
>> need to believe in my
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> The 17/02/14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> It depends; right now you can't switch back and forth between OpenRC
>> and systemd without reemerging some stuff.
>
> Interesting. Didn't know that. What pac
em.slice/systemd-journald.service",
"_SYSTEMD_UNIT" : "systemd-journald.service", "_SYSTEMD_SLICE" :
"system.slice", "_MACHINE_ID" : "386846e50fae217775d8d80045a18054",
"_HOSTNAME" : "centurion", "MESSAGE" : "Journa
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:09:40 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> > How Integrated? The TCP/IP stack *is* integrated. But it is *protocol*
>> > integration, *standards* integration not *software* integration. You do
er" doesn't
> exist
>
>
> It seems to me that this is a dbus problem or something like that, but I
> don't know what I am doing wrong.
> I started "systemctl start bluetooth" and my user is in the group plugdev.
>
> Any suggestions?
Can you install gnome-bluetooth and run bluetooth-wizard?
Regards.
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ralf
wrote:
> On 02/18/14 16:05, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> install gnome-bluetooth and run blue
>
> This is what I get:
>
> (bluetooth-wizard:3156): Bluetooth-WARNING **: Pair() failed: Timeout was
> reached
>
> ** (bluetooth-wiz
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Ralf
wrote:
> On 02/18/14 17:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> systemctl status bluetooth.service
>
>
> Yes, sure, as I wrote above.
>
>Active: active (running) since Tue 2014-02-18 16:57:05 CET; 15min ago
>
> ps auxw|grep blue
chooses the "not
systemd" profile, and they will discover that anyhow they need systemd
to run a lot of things.
And, I repeat, usually when someone pushes for an X profile, it's
because they want to use X. In this case you are asking for an X
profile so you don't need to even see
before saying
>> something like that. I did.
>
> I read that blog. No valid reason were found (if we're comparing
> systemd to what is outside of systemd's world, not only to bare
> sysvinit). But what I found it that blog is a lack of thorough
> project design (it looks like many components were added by the fly
> without preliminary planning) and a lot of religious statements.
Again look [1]. To me, that's a "thorough project design", and
flexible enough that it has allowed to integrate more and more
features in the four years since it was written.
You don't agree with that? That's fine, but the design is there.
We can agree to disagree if it's sound or it isn't.
Regards.
[1] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
hen arguments are down to "Said
> who? Listen to the Oracle!" it starts to.
I explained in my last mail why I dropped Greg and Keith names. Don't
twist my words.
Regards.
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Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:30:42 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Gevisz wrote:
>> [ snip ]
>> > How can you be sure if something is "large enough" if, as you say
journalctl -b -u bluetooth.service
Regards.
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
(from my POV) is made available, and I hear a
lot of people whining and complaining and saying they are being forced
to use it... When from the start nobody is forcing anyone to use
Linux, AFAIK.
And with Linux (and contrary to Windows or MacOS, and similar to the
pletora of *BSDs), you *can* influence the direction of any part of
the stack that you want.
But you need to put your code (or bug reports, documentation, etc.)
where your mouth is.
I don't see much of the latter.
Regards.
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Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> > Yet again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I ask
>> > to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd
>
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:49:47 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> > The whole deep integration approach and lack of
>> > inter-module boundaries doesn't allow one to write replaceable blocks
>> > without
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