Re: [gentoo-user] my gentoo amd64 does not have sound

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Hill
Regards, > David Shen Could you d/l this script: http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/HOW-TOs/alsa-info.sh and pastebin.ca the output? I have a T61 with working sound and webcam built-in mic. Bruce Hill -- "Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward. But properly learned, the lesson forever changes the man."

Re: [gentoo-user] references from thunderbird

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:50:52PM +0300, zhen wrote: > Hi. > Does anybody know how to make links from thunderbird to be opened in > firefox? I know there are options in about:config > (network.protocol-handler.app.http etc..). They worked before I updated > firefox to 3.5.4. At some moment I notic

Re: [gentoo-user] my gentoo amd64 does not have sound

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:07:52PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:35:20AM -0500, Penguin Lover Marcus Wanner > squawked: > > On 12/15/2009 7:19 AM, Pint??r Tibor wrote: > >> unmute? > >> > > To unmute sound at all levels, run mplayer and turn the volume up (mplayer > > is

Re: [gentoo-user] GLX module not loaded...

2009-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 05:32:41AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I am still haveing one "EE" in my Xorg.0.log which says the > following: > > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X > (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 04:36:45PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: > FWIW, I have a Logitech mouse with a wheel that scrolls up and down, > presses down, and clicks left and right. All seem to work fine, except > I don't use the latter as I haven't found any purpose for it although I > could possibly

Re: [gentoo-user] Correcting some misconceptions (was: What magic does portage use?)

2009-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 06:56:00PM -0600, Leslie Turriff wrote: > As a 30-year veteran of the IBM mainframe programming environment, I > can say > with authority that most of the enterprises that use them for > mission-critical business applications (banking, stock-brokerage, etc.) are >

Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 09:14:48AM +0800, Xi Shen wrote: > ok. but it looks like the gmail web client encourage top post ;) That doesn't make it easy to read. This is how we see it when you top-post: A: Because you are doing it wrong. > >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alan McKinnon > >> wro

Re: [gentoo-user] Writing a bash script or thinking about it anyway. [now Bash guides]

2009-12-22 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 06:30:15PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote: > > The Advanced Scripting Guide is brilliant. It's my gospel when Bash > > scripting, although I'll admit I haven't looked harder for anything else. > > If there is any better guide out there, I would love to hear about it. > > I agre

Re: [gentoo-user] The Great Macbook Update 1: Audio

2009-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 09:53:43PM +, bn wrote: > Hi, > > I am updating my Macbook Pro installation. While many programs I updated > often, the basics (Xorg, kernel, etc.) were taking dust since... well, a > lot. I only found time with these holidays. This is therefore probably > the first thr

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel 2 manual

2012-10-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:02:52PM -0200, João Matos wrote: > Hi list. > > I'm still reading the oficial documentation, but I don't think it will be > enough, so, if anyone of you know some documentation more detailed, I'd > appreciate reading it. emerge -av app-doc/linux-kernel-in-a-nutshell --

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up: Several kernel versions have severe EXT4 data corruption bug

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 04:54:39PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Kernels 3.4, 3.5, and 3.6 can result in severe data corruption if you're > using the EXT4 filesystem: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxNDQ > > This includes gentoo-sources. I hope the Gentoo developer

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless dropping connections

2012-10-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:29:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I'm using wicd-1.7.2.4-r1 and a NetGear DGN2200M v2 wireless AP > (802.11n) > > Several times a day, this thing just drops wireless. I doubt it's my > laptop as other devices in the house also get affected. When this > happens I usua

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel compile only one new module

2012-11-08 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 06:55:31PM +0100, "ifj. Stefán István" wrote: > Hello! > > I have a quite good kernel, but today I realised that I need a kernel > module that hadn't been compiled before. > Is there any way to compile only that new module, and not compiling the > whole kernel and all of

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 01:00:05PM +0100, mindrunner wrote: > someone calls me stupid and dumb, because i am sharing my opinion. > this never happened to me on a dev-mailinglist. > I came here to help out gentoo users. not to flame war. > If I want this kind of conversation, i would sign in to gull

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 05:56:57AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > Please, don't take Volker seriously as anyone who represents the basic > discourse here. I black listed him a year ago but unfortunately his > rudeness still leaks through. While he is technically capable, far more > than me certain

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:00:35AM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > > Don't worry re VAH : he writes like that, but there's no ill-will > & often he has something useful to say. Most of the time, > Gentoo-User is polite + intelligent & a good source of Linux education. > In this case, as someone else

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 04:14:47PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 01:38:41 schrieb mindrunner: > > volker, what is your intention to say i am dumb and stupid. actually you > > do not know me. > > everybody does something dumb and/or stupid once in a while. I ave

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new system hardware

2012-11-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:28:45PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: > > However, seems like Amazon US ships those bod boys too: > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005V71EKW/ref=amb_link_363831362_3/187-3646152-7108162?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=hero-quick-promo&pf_rd_r=0B019H36JMGD79M4GQKB&pf_rd

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot with kernel 3.5.7: init not being started

2012-11-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 01:23:03PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > ;-) I've built quite a few in my time as a Gentoo user, and one or two > when I was still using Debian. > > Configuring a kernel is more difficult than the available documentation > might lead one to believe. > > There are many

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is > forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid reaction. A lot > of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is forc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 06:24:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > > Say Dude, > > > > I have a question (well, two actually) > > > > My name is Alan and I've been subscribed on this list for 7 years. > > > > What's your name, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:14:29PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Bruce Hill > wrote: > [snip] > > Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky. > > I try not to use profanity most of the time. In this particular

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:50:04PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill > wrote: > [snip] > > It offends me. > > That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I > suggest you not to read LKML; Linus is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 09:02:18PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > I'm atheists, and I don't see any relation between being or not a > religious person, using profanity, or that we respect each other. The > three of them are orthogonal, I think. > > I try to respect every member of this lis

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 03:57:52AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > FWIW, swearing here is rare. Usually it's understandable when it > happens. > > Threads like this current one are also rare. Unfortunately of late they > usually involve Lennart, and that's understandable too: > > In trying to so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:37:03AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from > > replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > > Oh, really? Didn't get the memo. I suppose all my machines (laptops, > > desktops, servers and media center) running with Gentoo+systemd (and > > what is more, *without* OpenRC) are a fidget of my imagination. fidget is what l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:28:52PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > -- > Neil Bothwick Duly noted and appreciated ... thank you. -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 66

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, I'm > looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run when it > gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. > > I wonder what

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:52:25PM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> > >> > I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local > >> map MAC addresses to IP addresses. This is what your /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf would look like on the router, or how it should be configured wherever DHCP is h

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:39:40AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local network. > > Using dhcp as in > > modules="wpa_supplicant" > wpa_supplicant_wlan0="-Dwext -iwlan0" > config_wlan0="dhcp" > > works just fine but depends on dhcp fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote: > > > Hello, > > Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your mails goes > into my standard Mailbox, while I did a rule to make it goes to a gentoo-user > folder... > > Thanks. > > -- > Cr0k Can you learn to trim? ;

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:42:45PM -0800, Willie wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that > whenever I am in Linux my computer will just turn off. Not shutdown like I > did "shutdown -r now". Just completely off out of the blue at random times.

Re: [gentoo-user] udev update changed cd/dvd device name

2012-11-19 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:59:34AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > Anyone else run into this problem with udev-171-r9? I updated > yesterday and my CD/DVD, which has been /dev/cdrom1 since I built the > machine 2 1/2 years ago, is now called /dev/scd0. > > Machine is x86_64, mostly stable. > > - Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] udev update changed cd/dvd device name

2012-11-19 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:54:15AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Thanks Bruce. That at least goes a long way toward explaining why the > system is acting the way it's acting. Threw me for a loop I must say. > > Interestingly I don't have the elog file you show above. (Not sure I > should, just sa

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:44:08AM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: > Hello, > > i am using a Thinkpad X301 with a DVI Monitor connected to the mini > displayport. > That worked perfectly for years, but with Kernel 3.6 (and 3.7rc) the DVI > Monitor stays black on boot and it is not visible in xrandr. As

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC update to 0.11.5 - safe if using older udev (pinned to udev-181)?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:46:59AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Anyone? > > I don't see any news blurbs warning about it, but with everything going > on with udev, systemd, etc, I'm not risking updating unless/until I know > it is safe. > > Tia... > > Charles Have you read the requirements in /u

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC update to 0.11.5 - safe if using older udev (pinned to udev-181)?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:17:17PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > RDEPEND="virtual/init > kernel_FreeBSD? ( || ( >=sys-freebsd/freebsd-ubin-9.0_rc > sys-process/fuser-bsd ) ) > elibc_glibc? ( >=sys-libs/glibc-2.5 ) > ncurses? ( sys-libs/ncurses ) > pam? ( sys-auth

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC update to 0.11.5 - safe if using older udev (pinned to udev-181)?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:17:17PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Hey, should be no worries now ... openrc-0.11.5 got moved to stable today, so it should work fine with >=sys-fs/udev-181 (stable udev atm). -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor

2012-11-21 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 06:09:47PM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: > > Setting nomodeset does not solve the problem. > > Regards, > Norman Sorry I didn't have the time to reply ... RL is consuming me. You can search on the Linux Kernel Mailing List https://lkml.org/ to see if this bug is there, also.

Re: [gentoo-user] What is libgcc_s.so.1?

2012-11-21 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:25:27PM -0800, Grant wrote: > I'm building a minimal Gentoo system but I always get the following error > when I try to chroot into the final system: > > /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or dir

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:23:08PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > /usr/src/makeover > ***IMPORTANT*** The arch/x86 directory is specific to 32-bit i686 > kernels. Adjust accordingly if you use a different architecture. > > #!/bin/bash > make &&

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 06:59:43PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > have a couple of of IBM "clickety-clack" 104-keyboard specials that were > being thrown out by my former employer a few years ago. I love them. Had to leave mine in China when we moved back last year. If you want to get rid of one.

Re: [gentoo-user] Providing virtual dependency net

2012-11-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 07:02:18PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > I have added rc_net_wlan0_provide="net" to /etc/rc.conf, but scripts like > sshd still wont start, and when executed report "WARNING: sshd is scheduled > to start when net.eth0 has started". > > Why does sshd appear to be specifically

Re: [gentoo-user] Providing virtual dependency net

2012-11-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:01:27PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > I don't see how, so that probably means i'm ignorant of something i need to > know. Can you please elaborate? > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Bruce Hill > wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 27,

Re: [gentoo-user] serial in /sys

2012-11-29 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 05:57:46PM +, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Anyone knows how to dig into /sys to find the serial number of a device (say, > a USB pen)? I few days ago I found by trial and error something like > $ cat > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:06.1/usb2/2-4/2-4:1.0/host13/target13:0:0/

Re: [gentoo-user] serial in /sys

2012-11-29 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 07:31:10PM +, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > It is a matter of programming, not looking. I need a program that creates the > symlink when the device is plugged in. Think mdev (more precisely, a > complement to mdev that would take care of a few particular devices, to allow >

Re: [gentoo-user] Google Chrome leftovers

2012-11-29 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 02:38:48PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Thanks for the info. Actually I haven't tried any version yet. I was > just curious about finding some app that might receive text message > sent from a cell phone. I.e. - instead of giving my cell phone number > which I'd rather kee

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.2->3.5 upgrade unusable: keyboard borked

2012-12-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 06:23:52AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > I think numlock is on by default in newer kernels -- just turn it off > with the key -- I am pretty sure even your laptop has such a simulated > key. Where do you get numlock as a kernel option? It is a BIOS option, but a

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.2->3.5 upgrade unusable: keyboard borked

2012-12-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 08:06:43AM +, Mick wrote: > > You can check if rc-update -s -v | grep numlock (or rc-status -s | grep > numlock) shows it being set, otherwise add it to see if this makes a > difference. > -- > Regards, > Mick Though there is no /etc/conf.d/numlock, Mick's post caus

Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?

2012-12-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 12:21:40PM -0500, Randy Westlund wrote: > I've been using rsync to sync binary files, shell scripts, my > workspace, and random user files under my home directory across > multiple machines. I'm using one server as the master copy, which > makes daily incremental backups of

Re: [gentoo-user] new dhcpcd behaviour

2012-12-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 03:18:38PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > I updated to Openrc 0.11.6 yesterday & on waking the machine up today > & starting DHCP from a terminal (as I always do), > instead of a long list of interactions with the router > there's 1 line "dhcpcd[1035]: sending commands to mas

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC stable pushes

2012-12-07 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 09:24:54AM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > I want to explain about the recent openrc's going directly to stable. > > The team had been testing from the previous stable, 0.9.x series all the > way through 0.10.x. We found out recently that releng needed the new > openrc stable

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

2012-12-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 05:20:36PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > That's been my experience too. I run @preserved-rebuild when it tells > me to but revdep-rebuild rarely finds anything. Thing is, it has a time > or two. It is best to run revdep-rebuild and be sure than not to and > run the risk of not

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

2012-12-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > What is @preserved-rebuild ? > > It is a portage set, hence the @ prefix, containing packages that need to > be rebuilt in order to link them against the installed versions of > libraries. > > > workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserve

Re: [gentoo-user] Does anyone else have broken symlinks in /usr/share/man/man1?

2012-12-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:27:03AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > > > This is an incredibly inefficient way of testing for broken symlinks, > > it > > takes about 100 times as long to run (over ten seconds on my netbook) > > than > > > > find -L /usr/share/man/ -type l > > What about > ap

Re: [gentoo-user] Does anyone else have broken symlinks in /usr/share/man/man1?

2012-12-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:27:03AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > > > This is an incredibly inefficient way of testing for broken symlinks, > > it > > takes about 100 times as long to run (over ten seconds on my netbook) > > than > > > > find -L /usr/share/man/ -type l > > What about > ap

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

2012-12-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserved-rebuild > > emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set > > emerge: no targets left after set expansion > > So you have nothing that needs rebuilding. Portage will warn you when the > set it

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery of fstab

2012-12-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:48:03PM +, James wrote: > > I guesses but the / is blank? > > df > /dev/sda2 61438696 51276944 10161752 84% /mnt/gentoo/boot > /dev/sda3 61438696 51276944 10161752 84% /mnt/gentoo > > > /mnt/gentoo/boot is populated (mounted correctl

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sets syntax (@world vs. world)

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:53:01PM +0100, Francesco Turco wrote: > Hello. > > A couple of weeks ago I filed a bug because in the Installation Handbook > I found some references of the "world" set in emerge commands, as > opposed to "@world": https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445184 > > The

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 08:05:24AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Of course, all this assumes that your version of portage supports > @preserved-rebuild > > To use it, you simply notice the portage message right at the end of an > emerge and run "emerge @preserved-rebuild" - it's just a regular

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Will ARM take over the world?

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:05:30PM +, James wrote: > > Alan, one of the keenest reasons ARM is dominating > NOW, is that in the early 1990 one person, helped > many fledling embedded linux hacks get embedded > linux running on many different flavors of ARM > processors. > > RUSSELL is KING, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Will ARM take over the world?

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:55:53PM +, James wrote: > Bruce Hill happypenguincomputers.com> writes: > > > > Wish my Samsung Galaxy S could have it's piece of crap Android system > > replaced > > by arm-linux -- if not it will drive me back to an iPhone. &

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Will ARM take over the world?

2012-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 01:06:23PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Dec 13, 2012 12:10 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > > > It's nice to see a chip designer not falling into the intel trap of > > trying to rape every customer for every last cent they have! > > > > Don't get me started on that... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual or Quad CPU complications?

2012-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 08:44:45AM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > NUMA is also an option in the kernel. Should also be fully transparent. > I got one machine with NUMA and only had to set an option for it. > > Does anyone know how to check it's working properly? dmesg | grep NUMA -- Happy Pengu

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:49:23PM -0800, Grant wrote: > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud server > from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server concept is > amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the same price > point far outperfo

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:19:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:39:03 -0600 > Bruce Hill wrote: > > > > My data is allergic to "the cloud" ... too much pixey dust. > > If I get up from my desk, walk down the corridor and turn right, I fi

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:24:03PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability > > compared to dedicated? > > Potentially? Yes. > > In reality? No. > > It's not the virtualization that breaks, it's all the surrounding > infrastructur

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:41:45AM -0600, Dale wrote: > > Right now, I have /usr on a separate partition so I would need a init > thingy to boot. When I switch to eudev, that won't be required, from > what I have read anyway. > > I didn't want the init thingy to begin with either. > > Dale L

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:25:08AM -0600, Dale wrote: > > Pretty much yea. I started making a init thing when they were talking > about not supporting /usr on a separate partition. Then about a month > ago eudev was announced which means we can boot with /usr on a separate > partition and no ini

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 09:48:12AM -0600, Dale wrote: > > Well, it appears that one version is stable: > > root@fireball / # equery list -p eudev > * Searching for eudev ... > [-P-] [ ] sys-fs/eudev-0:0 > [-P-] [ ~] sys-fs/eudev-1_beta1-r1:0 > [-P-] [ -] sys-fs/eudev-:0 > root@fireball / #

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:20:05AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2012-12-14 10:39 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > > What Mark wrote you is golden. I might only add that if you put: > > > > >=sys-fs/udev-181 > > > > into > > > > /etc/portage/package.mask &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:52:12AM -0600, Dale wrote: > > I have the flu, nasty one at that, and I really don't need to add hal to > my list right now. That said, the Doctor called and the blood tests > said I was healthy as a horse, other than being sick as a dog. :/ > Sort of like software,

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18:21AM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > I will try some more desperate tricks today, like reconnecting the USB pile > to see if it at least boots the disks again - is my choice between disks and > keyboard? I will find out. My best guess right now is that booting

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:24:10PM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > That's what I've been using. > > But the hardware failure is illogical too; why would USB and SATA fail at the > same time? Or why would southbridge fail when it had been running perfectly > fine? > > I don't really think

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:43:01PM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt? > > Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point gru

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 05:10:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > That was the original reason for having / and /usr separate, and it > dates back to the early 70s. The other reason that stems from that time > period is the size of disks we had back then - they were tiny and often > a minimal / w

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf tweaks for HTPC machine?

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 05:01:59PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > * X now has hardware acceleration > >I ran "emerge -pv --deep --newuse world" to make sure everything was > OK. It wanted to rebuild xorg-server and one other lib after the > changes in "VIDEO_CARDS" in make.conf. While I wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about optimal mplayer settings

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:05:14PM -0600, Dale wrote: > Walter Dnes wrote: > > 1) In the past couple of days I finally figured out what I was doing > > wrong with hardware acceleration (causing lack thereof) with an onboard > > Intel GPU in my HTPC machine. I've applied the same fix to my desktop.

[gentoo-user] Re: Questions about optimal mplayer settings

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:38:26PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > Rather than downloadhelper and a web browser, try: > > > > mingdao@workstation ~/test $ youtube-dl > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XITHbsUUlYI > > [youtube] Setting language > > [youtube] XITHbsUUlYI: Downloading video webpage > > [yout

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OpenRC error message at boot

2012-12-19 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 05:25:13PM -0800, walt wrote: > > that. There are some questions that require a group of old farts, and you > have > found one in this mailing list :) Something smells ... bad ... here. :( -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive

[gentoo-user] Re: Questions about optimal mplayer settings

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 03:38:15PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 19.12.2012 00:20, schrieb Walter Dnes: > > 1) In the past couple of days I finally figured out what I was doing > > wrong with hardware acceleration (causing lack thereof) with an onboard > > Intel GPU in my HTPC machine. I've a

Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:23:35AM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: Puhleeeze don't put such long stuff in an email. Have you heard of attachments? pastebins? Your dropbox postings lost me after reading: Please enable browser-cookies to use the Dropbox website. -- Happy Penguin Computers

Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 07:41:10AM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > I was under the impression that gentoo strips attachments. At any > rate, I summarized as much as possible and only put the the full logs > at the end. > > As for the cookies, so many sites require cookies and/or > javascrip

Re: [gentoo-user] Ram Problem!

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:05:44PM +0100, Teodor Spæren wrote: > > The possible work around I have thought of is just getting the vanilla kernel > from kernel.org, but the gentoo wiki advise against it, since gentoo-sources > is a patched kernel. With all due respect, Gentoo is the only distro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem!

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:52:27PM +0100, Teodor Spæren wrote: > > That is my concern. If I get it working with a vanilla kernel, and then > booting into the system, > emerge do not work, it was all wasted. You may want to consider a swap file: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:06:41PM +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote: > > Now, also, from my understanding, this was already the case for some > time (maybe even years?). And that's why I've asked for more details. > > So, if the udev you use is OK with no initrd, what is in the new udev > that actually

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:25:02AM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > On Dec 24, 2012 10:00 PM, "Dale" wrote: > > I have not > > tested the theory but that is what people have been saying. Not only is > > my /usr separate but it is on LVM partitons too. > > If I recall correctly, easy repartition

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
This time it has 4 attachments; afaik there were zero attachments the first time (deleted email here so can't check now). No worries, files here now. Do you have a /var/log/messages (might be in rotated, gzipped one even) that includes the 3.6.10 *and* 3.7.1 boot? -- Happy Penguin Computers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:05:25AM -0600, Dale wrote: > Bruce Hill wrote: > > <<< SNIP >>> > > No initrd... > > YET!!! ROFL > > When eudev goes stable, then we can disregard that yet. ;-) > > Dale devfs still works wonderfully ... for p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 01:23:16PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Dale wrote: > > > The problems with that is these: It worked ALL these years, why should > > it not now? I have / on a traditional partition which is not going to > > resize easily. If I put / on L

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:36:06PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > One of the reasons I left Mandriva was because of the init thingy. If I > wanted one and liked having one, I would have never switched to Gentoo. > The init thingy was not the only reason but it was one of them. The > reason I do not wan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:23:13PM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: > > Then came the decision to move udev inside /usr, forcing the issue. > Now, it'd been long understood that udev *itself* hadn't been broken. > The explanation given as much as a year earlier was that udev couldn't > control what *othe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:34:00PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > I'm also interested in Bruce's history about initrd. Sounds like if > that worked today I'd just use it to make an initrd and be done with > it. Unlike you, I guess, I don't have any political position on these > images that get used

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 06:29:07PM -0600, »Q« wrote: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:04:13 -0600 > Bruce Hill wrote: > > > Gentoo had mkinitrd once upon a time, but it's now in attic. > > Somewhere, sometime, for some reason, initramfs (inital ram > > filesystem)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:54:08PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:29 PM, »Q« wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:04:13 -0600 > > Bruce Hill wrote: > > > >> Gentoo had mkinitrd once upon a time, but it's now in attic. > >> Som

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 02:10:28PM +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote: > > No, actually it doesn't. It just has the same kind of very generic claim > that has been repeated several times in this thread (which is "why? > because it won't work") and links to an article that explains why some > udev rules wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 08:38:30PM -0600, Dale wrote: > Bruce Hill wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 06:29:07PM -0600, »Q« wrote: > >> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:04:13 -0600 > >> Bruce Hill wrote: > >> > >>> Gentoo had mkinitrd once upon a time, but i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:56:52AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > When you're in charge of over 100 servers as the back-end of a > multinational company that has a revenue in excess of 10 million USD per > day, even a temporary outage means the CIO, COO, and CEO breathing down > your neck. Who is

Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors

2012-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 08:53:33AM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:07:04AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > emerge -av app-text/wgetpaste && wgetpaste /path/to/3.6/.config > > /path/to/3.7/.config > > 3.6.10 .config -- http://bpaste

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