Re: [gentoo-user] help with inaccessible (trashed?) file

2010-02-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 08 February 2010 01:02:39 Alex Schuster wrote: > Walt Rarus writes: > > WALRUS ~ # whoami > > root > > WALRUS ~ # ls -l /usr/portage/x11-misc/icesndcfg/ > > ls: cannot access /usr/portage/x11-misc/icesndcfg/icesndcfg-1.3.ebuild: > > Permission denied > > total 12 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 00:20:47 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo! > > I've just got a sparkling new installation of Gentoo on my new PC. It > only took me ~5 hours, mainly because I'd already configured the kernel > in a trial run. :-) > > However, I'm now trying to get X up and running.

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 01:22:31 Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 08:47 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > I now only need to figure out the best way to configure LVM over this to > > get the best performance from it. Does anyone know of a decent way of > > figuring this out? > > I go

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 03:29:50 Dale wrote: > Well, actually, if hal would have worked I wouldn't have cared if it > uses xorg.conf at all. That was the point of using hal. Thing is, I > followed the howto and it didn't work. The fact that the config files > are in xml only became a pr

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:36:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new > version? > This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they > go to different slots. > Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope wit

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 11:38:52 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:24:36 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > hal is a classic "Second System Effect" case > > > > > > But I thought we thrashed this to death a while ago and all agreed to > > > never speak of this abomination again, while we a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 12:32:11 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 10 Feb, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:36:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new >

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 14:57:57 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:27:32AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > > > but D-Bus provides a standard way for applications to communicate > > with one another and removing it can stop your desktop working as > > it should. > > Then how did

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 17:33:46 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 02:39:14PM -0500, dhk wrote: > >> Do you have xfce-base/xfdesktop installed? Try installing it. > > > > No, as it happens, I didn't. When I tried > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 19:22:01 BRM wrote: > - Original Message > > > From: Volker Armin Hemmann > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 12:18:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only > > ~x86)??? ALSO: > > from

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 18:37:00 Mark Knecht wrote: > > gcc rebuilds itself twice to ensure that the binary is built with the > > same version as the result, and verifies that the last two are bit-wise > > identical. Then building the toolchain, then building the rest of world > > gives you e

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 22:51:00 Stroller wrote: > On 10 Feb 2010, at 20:27, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > ... > > The qt- subpackages are very much alive and stable: > > > > $ eix qt-gui > > [I] x11-libs/qt-gui > > > > Available ver

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 09:31:21 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:18:43PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:57:57 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > but D-Bus provides a standard way for applications to communicate > > > > with one another and removing it c

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:50:54 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31:26AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > > > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > > > IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a very good reason to find another > > > desktop manager (even after being

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron, bash, and java interacting badly?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 15:40:09 Walt Rarus wrote: > I have a java (clojure, actually) program which is invoked via a bash > script. When the script is invoked from the shell, the java program always > runs and succeeds. However, when the script is invoked via a cron job, the > java program al

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 15:19:57 dhk wrote: > How do I find out the missing keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee? > > I tried dev-java/sun-j2ee ~amd64 java in /etc/portage/package.keywords > and tried adding ACCEPT_LICENSE="sun-bcla-j2ee" to /etc/make.conf. dev-java/sun-j2ee ~* > > Below is

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 16:32:02 Dale wrote: > Can you nice the thing too? That would work. I set emerge to 5 and I > can't even tell that emerge is running most of the time. There may be > times when I can but it is rare. > > I just don't get this thing that indexing is a resource hog.

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 16:56:51 dhk wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Thursday 11 February 2010 15:19:57 dhk wrote: > >> How do I find out the missing keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee? > >> > >> I tried dev-java/sun-j2ee ~amd64 java in /etc/portage/pa

Re: [gentoo-user] Uh Oh!! Made the contents of my directory unreadable

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 19:58:25 ubiquitous1980 wrote: > With this command or similar, I made my directory and one file in / > unreadable: > > for entry in $(find $HOME); do $entry >> found; done > > the same of output for ls is similar: > > -k?x?B?{U?I?3s?? > ???N???Q > ?ܝw?Ϭw?

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 18:09:33 Alex Schuster wrote: > Dale writes: > > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > Whoops? SeaMonkey. Dale has his eyes set on holding the world record to be the last KDE-3.5 user left standing with the longest continual uptime for

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:09:28 Mark Knecht wrote: > Can someone comment on why I do or do not want to include config files > when making quickpkg files? > > Seems like there is the issue of hand edits being saved which would be > a good reason to keep them. I'm not overly worried about some

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:06:50 dhk wrote: > Another question about this. > > Where's a good place to set J2EE_HOME (/opt/sun-j2ee-1.3.1/) and > JAVA_HOME? Should it be in each user's profile? If I wanted to set > them globally for all users should they go in /etc/profile ? How many users

Re: [gentoo-user] Uh Oh!! Made the contents of my directory unreadable

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:47:33 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:18:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Switch to a text console (Ctrl-Alt-Fx) and ls things there, perhaps the > > garbage dumped to the screen in your for simply upset the terminal > > emulatio

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:37:00 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:09:28 Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Can someone comment on why I do or do not want to include config files > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 February 2010 23:40:37 Zeerak Waseem wrote: > True, but even those using Openbox, icewm, etc. were introduced to the > mess that HAL is, and also to dbus. Sure you can choose not to have > hal/dbus/*kit, but then you also choose not to use a growing number of > apps that seem t

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 00:10:06 dhk wrote: > My /usr/bin/java was linked to run-java-tool, don't know what that is. > # ll /usr/bin/java > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Feb 11 11:20 /usr/bin/java -> run-java-tool That's correct. It's a man-in-the-middle thing installed by the java configurator,

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > One thing I haven't found so far is what to put in make.conf to get > > the buildpkg feature to include the configs. It's easy at the command > > line. Where's the documentation on how to actually use this the right > > way automat

Re: [gentoo-user] Uh Oh!! Made the contents of my directory unreadable

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 00:26:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:32:44 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > In which case, running reset in the affected terminal should clear > > > it. > > > > Every time I've tried to tell people to do that, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 00:58:52 dhk wrote: > I put /usr/bin/java back the way it was. > ln -s /usr/bin/run-java-tool /usr/bin/java > > I set the CLASSPATH, got it from java-config --runtime > export CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.18/jre/lib/resources.jar: > /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.18/jre/l

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 00:56:33 Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:53:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> Particularly when your wm can handle all the inter-app > >> communication that is necessary without dbus. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:10:58 Zeerak Waseem wrote: > But honestly, I don't have a solution to the problem, what I can however > say is that my browser and my mail app, are pretty deft at realizing that > their attempts to access a server, are in vain, without any network > manager to te

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 00:56:04 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > One thing I haven't found so far is what to put in make.conf to get >

Re: [gentoo-user] Uh Oh!! Made the contents of my directory unreadable

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:18:33 Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 01:58 +0800, ubiquitous1980 wrote: > > With this command or similar, I made my directory and one file in / > > unreadable: > > > > for entry in $(find $HOME); do $entry >> found; done > > er... you just executed ever

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 04:24:33 walt wrote: > On 02/11/2010 03:03 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > ... > > > > And don't start with sockets. That will result in a nightmare. dbus is a > > clean solution to a huge problem. Apps have to talk to each other. The > > only way to keep it sane is

Re: [gentoo-user] Uh Oh!! Made the contents of my directory unreadable

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 02:02:27 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > You owe me a year's subscription from your employer for that > > wise-crack. Postage paid by sender, naturally. > > This year, I seem to be working mainly for the Inland Revenue. I'll give > them your address :P How odd. I do the same w

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:51:40 Dale wrote: > By the way, just installed KDE 4.4 and I still can't open a file with > Dolphin as root. You are not supposed to do that. Dolphin runs as you. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:49:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: > > Am Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:18:42 + > > > > schrieb Neil Bothwick : > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:03:15 -0600, Roy Wright wrote: > > > > IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a v

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:52:37 Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:31:26 +0100, Alan McKinnon > > wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 01:10:58 Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> But honestly, I don't have a solution to the problem, what I can however >

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 09:44:01 Graham Murray wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser > > or mail app that they are offline? > > Why does the app need to know? Browsers normally have an online/offline > menu selection

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo, > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging > the xfce window manager. I "solved" this by emerging Openbox instead. > > Then I got another co

Re: [gentoo-user] script to check if a package is installed ?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:16:22 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody know how to check if a package is installed using a script/ > shell. > > Unfortunately eix -I -q CAT/PACK > produces a return code of 0 irrespectively if CAT/PACK > is install or not. > > I'd like to say > > fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 12:15:13 Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't > >> dependent of the DE, to require a depend

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:46:33 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unsta

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:42:26 Graham Murray wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 09:44:01 Graham Murray wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > >> > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 14:43:30 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > failures in b11 of 32 bit words. > > > > I'll try unplugging and replugging these. > > No help. :-( > > No matter how I plug in the RAM (4 combinations of 2 sticks into 2 pairs > of slots) it is always b11 which fails and always at a

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 21:55:29 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo! > > As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. > As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One > non-functioning binary is probably GCC. > > What I'd like to do is reinsta

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:52:32 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:21:18 -0800, Kyle Bader wrote: > > >> Has anybody any other tips to offer me for this operation? > > > > > > tar up /etc. > > > > Make sure the tar can extract on another system. Backups that haven't > > been tes

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 21:23:41 pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser > > or mail app that they are offline? > > I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function > in a browser, mail client o

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 21:38:21 pk wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > 1. Say stuff it and build a print server into your app. We stopped doing > > that when DOS fell out of fashion. > > 2. Support all possible print systems. lpr anyone? > > 3. Or just use IPC and let

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 22:14:53 pk wrote: > > and because of that dbus is a great solution. Single solution for a wide > > range of problems. Which is pretty much anti-bloat. > > Great solution to what? What problems? As has been mentioned multiple times before by multiple people: The probl

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 08:39:53 Walter Dnes wrote: > Sorry about the delay replying. I'm having major problems upgrading > to kernel 2.6.31-r6. > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 04:53:08PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:31:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > XMMS follow

Re: [gentoo-user] Two problems with xdg-open

2010-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 12:31:08 Willie Wong wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:25:07PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: > > It's a simple bash script. There's no magic. Take a peek at it. > > Heh, somehow it didn't occur to me that might be the case. Thanks. > > So after reading the script,

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 19:43:47 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > There you go. Most likely one little transistor that went belly up. > > Considering there are millions of those little devils on there, no > > surprise at all. > > Oh, don't be like that! You're saying, like, another "little" tra

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 14:07:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I agree with the concept that people who don't want KDE dependancies, > > > > e.g. dbus, shouldn't use KDE apps. Therefore, I avoid amarok, kaffeine, > > kplayer, etc. What got me started in this thread was the fact that what

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 19:51:05 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Thanks! In the end, I just used the gcc I had on the system anyway; it > wasn't broken. I first did 'emerge -e gcc', which took an hour, then did > 'emerge -e world', which took ~2 hours 30 mins. > > I was being a bit paranoid. The r

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 22:43:39 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:28:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > /etc/ is CONFIG_PROTECTed, so emerge -e world will do just what the OP > > > wants, rebuild everything without touching the configs. > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 14 February 2010 13:02:48 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I highly recommend drivers to gain the skill of driving a vehicle > > crash-style without a clutch. Comes in useful sometimes. > > > > > > > > :-) > > the point was not stick but unsyncronized ;) I know. I just felt like tossin

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 14 February 2010 16:40:01 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > Just to bring this back to your original statement of Unix philosophy. > > IPC on modern desktops conforms exactly to the Unix philosophy. > > On dbus, everything's a file ? You are either ignorant, or trying to be a jackass. Either w

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 14 February 2010 20:44:32 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > no, but with static exes you have to recompile everything > > everytime a security bug is found. > > That's the job of the distro buildsystem. Ah, and that dramatically > minimizes the chance that things br

Re: [gentoo-user] poppler vs virtual/poppler & eix-test-obsolete

2010-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 14 February 2010 22:10:05 Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >Mostly in support of (I think) KDE I have poppler installed which > seems to cause eix-test-obsolete a little indigestion. It sees > virtual/poppler as installed but says they are not in the database. > >Do I have a problem here

Re: [gentoo-user] Error+ffmpeg

2010-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 15 February 2010 05:49:23 German Lopez Cortina wrote: > Error ffmpeg installing Please report with the build error. It's earlier than the bit you quoted, you need to examine the output to find it. > > make: *** [libavcodec/x86/dsputil_mmx.o] Error 1 > * ERROR: media-video/ffmpeg-0

Re: [gentoo-user] poppler vs virtual/poppler & eix-test-obsolete

2010-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 15 February 2010 00:04:21 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Stroller > > wrote: > > On 14 Feb 2010, at 20:31, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> ... > >> poppler isn't in my world file: > >> ... > >> Are you suggesting the I unmerge poppler and then do a > >> revdep-rebuild (

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 14 February 2010 22:37:03 dhk wrote: > dhk wrote: > Ok, I think the problem is in the rt.jar file. The beginning of the > error is as follows: > > # /opt/sun-j2ee-1.3.1/bin/j2ee -verbose > J2EE server listen port: 1050 > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > com

Re: [gentoo-user] nfs-utils broken on ~amd64?

2010-02-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 15 February 2010 21:23:54 walt wrote: > Anyone else having problems mounting nfs shares with nfs-utils-1.2.1? > > 'mount.nfs' complains I'm passing it a bad nfs option no matter what > options I give it, including no options. > > Strace shows that nfs.mount is passing a weird-looking IP

Re: [gentoo-user] pdfimages

2010-02-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 15 February 2010 23:09:22 Hung Dang wrote: > Hi all, > > I could not find poppler-utils package which has pdfimages command. Does > anyone know which package I should install to have pdfimages installed? > > Thanks in advance > Hung It's part of poppler now, and things have been re-or

Re: [gentoo-user] Which packages did I unmerge?

2010-02-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 09:20:15 Grant wrote: > Is there any way to find out which packages I unmerged today with > depclean? I thought they would show up in /var/log/portage but > apparently not. I'm getting a wireless card DMA error since unmerging > them. > > - Grant app-portage/genlop

Re: [gentoo-user] Which packages did I unmerge?

2010-02-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 23:10:57 Grant wrote: > >> Is there any way to find out which packages I unmerged today with > >> depclean? I thought they would show up in /var/log/portage but > >> apparently not. I'm getting a wireless card DMA error since unmerging > >> them. > >> > >> - Grant > >

Re: [gentoo-user] log messages

2010-02-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 00:36:42 Harry Putnam wrote: > Hundreds, maybe thousands of lines like this (wrapped for mail): > > Feb 16 09:38:47 reader kernel: [162289.090685] usb 4-2.1:1.1: uevent > > Feb 16 09:38:48 reader kernel: [162289.467065] hdc: status error: > status=0x00 { } > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 01:21:22 Mick wrote: > However, the point has been well made by many. KDE4 is not KDE3.x and > with KDE4 you get the full enchilada because that's what the developers > have produced. Since I do not have the ability (or time) to fork KDE4 > into my own flavour I wil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: log messages

2010-02-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 08:49:28 Harry Putnam wrote: > I have caught the freeze in the early stages before completely losing > the network when just mouse and keyboard became unresponsive, was able > to ssh in and noticed that restarting hald held off the freeze for > some (again unspecified)

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with installation kde-meta, gnome

2010-02-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 11:25:25 Andzrzej Styczeń wrote: > Hello, > > I am newbie to Gentoo. I yesterday install it and uff it works :-). > > Today I try to install kde on amd64 architecture but I obtain error. I do > the following: > > # emerge --sync > # emerge kde-meta > > * Error: cir

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with installation kde-meta, gnome

2010-02-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 16:57:34 Crístian Viana wrote: > the "qt4" useflag isn't enabled by default, right? that'd be a big > 'default' problem to people installing KDE. > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:25:25 +0100, Andzrzej Styczeń wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] weather forecast plasmoid refuses to find Perth in Australia as a location

2010-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 18 February 2010 08:47:47 ubiquitous1980 wrote: > I am having issues using the weather forecast plasmoid in KDE 4.3. It > will not allow me to show the weather for Perth in Australia using the > BBC or other sources. As someone else posted yesterday, upgrade to 4.4 -- alan dot mcki

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Screen sharing software or similar

2010-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 18 February 2010 15:15:52 Renat Golubchyk wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm looking for a solution to the following problem. > > My relatives live 200 km away. They have a daughter, and I need to help > her out with school homework etc. At the moment we cannot do it on a > regular basis, becau

Re: [gentoo-user] Sansa Clip+

2010-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 19 February 2010 01:34:36 sean wrote: > Hello All, > > My son just purchased a Sansa Clip+ and from what I read it is supposed > to be accessible in Linux, it would look like a USB drive for drag and > drop. > > Anyway, I updated the firmware to the latest, and set the USB mode o

Re: [gentoo-user] Sansa Clip+

2010-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 19 February 2010 02:15:49 sean wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Do you do yet the obvious first step, which is to plug in it and see what > > happens? > > > > If so, what happened? > > If not, do so, then post what happened. > > That I had tried.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trouble with virtual/jdk

2010-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 19 February 2010 16:47:09 walt wrote: > On 02/19/2010 05:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > >dev-db/hsqldb-1.8.0.10 (!java6? =virtual/jdk-1.5*) > > > > (java6?>=virtual/jdk-1.6) ... > > > > My 'make.conf' has 'java', but not 'java6', > > I'm thinking that !jav

Re: [gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 February 2010 16:16:51 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: > > On 21 February 2010 14:03, Volker Armin Hemmann > > > > wrote: > > > On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: > > >> I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL 5.1 and Amarok

2010-02-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 February 2010 11:44:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > It's not possible to use Amarok with the "embedded" USE flag with the > newly released MySQL 5.1. Why is that? Can we expect it to work at > some point? Do you mean it doesn't work, or the upgrade is dogdy with blocker messages tha

Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL 5.1 and Amarok

2010-02-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 February 2010 18:18:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sunday 21 February 2010 11:44:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > It's not possible to use Amarok with the "embedded" USE flag with the > &

Re: [gentoo-user] building pdftk (needs gcj)

2010-02-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 22 February 2010 00:56:47 Michael P. Soulier wrote: > So, I need pdftk to build some documents, so I emerge it and it tells me > that I need to update my USE flags and rebuild gcc with gcj support. > > So, I do. I added gcj to my global make.conf and ran the emerge, and gcc > was rebuilt

Re: [gentoo-user] building pdftk (needs gcj)

2010-02-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 22 February 2010 05:28:14 Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 21/02/10 Stroller said: > > It's using the old version of gcc, because you haven't told it to use > > the new version. > > > > The output you posted specifically told you to run: > > gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.4 > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on SSD

2010-02-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 22 February 2010 12:57:27 Stroller wrote: > On 22 Feb 2010, at 07:54, daid kahl wrote: > > ... > > As far as I know, solid state devices are much more susceptible to > > solar flare damage, particularly if you are outside. This is not > > exactly common, but hey. Of course I also have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode

2010-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 22:06:04 Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:22:10PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 02/23/2010 07:42 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > >> [...] > > >> > > >> You got me with that one :) Just because I don't have this problem > > >> doesn't mea

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-02-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 24 February 2010 16:46:59 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/24/2010 04:28 PM, Crístian Viana wrote: > > there was a recent discussion about this on this mailing list: > > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_13c6d27e4216e91ed3c4800fe42b8e > > 95.xml > > > > it seems only Kmail ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...

2010-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 February 2010 05:14:06 ubiquitous1980 wrote: > BRM wrote: > > I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, > > preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having > > konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in > >

Re: [gentoo-user] boot specific service in sequence

2010-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 February 2010 14:11:38 Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Hi, > > is there a way to start some specific services during boot up in a > sequential order ? > for example > > 1)tomcat > 2)mysql > 3)dns server Yes, the init scripts support the notion of a service depending on another service,

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a "lock daemon" for managing file locking on an NFS server?

2010-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 February 2010 15:56:28 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: > e.g. 'lockd'? > If so, which ebuild installs it? > 10x, > > Amit I went looking for rpc.lockd and couldn't find it either ;-( I fully expected ti to be there so a lot of hunting in /etc/init.d ensued. Then I remember something about

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 February 2010 17:15:36 Ward Poelmans wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 21:51, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > It looks interesting, and no program is that good that alternatives > > should never be considered, but I really like the way BaclupPC works. > > Everything is handled by the server

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 26 February 2010 20:40:40 Harry Putnam wrote: > ALERT [ This is a slightly rewritten repost from > `gmane.[...].perl.beginners', where it got no responses] > ---- ---=--- - > > My subject line is probably not really that > good at des

Re: [gentoo-user] source repository could not be determined

2010-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 26 February 2010 23:12:18 Joseph wrote: > I'm trying to re-emerge package kbarcode but it keeps complaing: > that the source repository could not be determined > > emerge -pv kbarcode > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [eb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 26 February 2010 23:08:58 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/26/2010 10:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> Is it normal that every KDE (4.4.0) application is generating an awful > >> lot of debug messages on stderr? When I start

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 26 February 2010 23:44:03 Harry Putnam wrote: > Where I'm weak is the part where the custom script checks if the > daemon is running, before the script itself starts. That part would > need to be something pretty fool proof... maybe just grep ps output > for the daemon? Maybe I'm misund

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 28 February 2010 07:06:43 ubiquitous1980 wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 02/28/2010 05:57 AM, ubiquitous1980 wrote: > >> If I have logged in through sudo such as $ sudo su, when I then use man > >> pages, they are covered in "ESC". This does not occur when using normal > >> user

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 27 February 2010 20:40:17 Harry Putnam wrote: > In the back of my mind there was a reason on opensolaris, that the > script would fail if the fifo was empty... Then once data comes the > script isn't listening. Or syslog won't write or something similar. > > I also have an opensolaris

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 28 February 2010 23:27:57 William Hubbs wrote: > > 7 years ago a veteran Linux user taught me to always use su - for the > > very reason you stated. > > > Actually, you are safe with either "su -" (without sudo) or "sudo -i". > "sudo su -" is chaining "su -" on top of sudo, and is re

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 01 March 2010 00:57:17 William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 12:16:14AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > "sudo su" and "su" have a fundamental difference, vital in corporate > > networks: > > > > The former uses the use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-03-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 01 March 2010 06:16:09 Harry Putnam wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > FWIW, Solaris syslogd is like other basic tools on Solaris: standards > > compliant in that it caters for the lowest common denominator that > > comprises Unix. Which is to say, almost always

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-03-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 01 March 2010 03:47:12 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:07:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Don't read my post as literally meaning they must type the 7 characters > > "sudo su". Read it more as "use any feature of sudo you feel like to

Re: [gentoo-user] mail client for mbox format sought

2010-03-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 01 March 2010 11:08:27 Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 10:06:49AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > my setup here is a running Postix MTA which stores all incoming mail > > into a single file (per user) in mbox format (/var/spool/mail/$USER) > > > > I'

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