On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> > Arve,
> >
> > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily
> >> available.
> >
> > I'm sure I don't understa
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:04:15AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>
>
>> I've seen some server type mobos that have SAS connectors which gives
>> several options. Some of them tend to have more PCIe slots which some
>> regular mobos don't anymore. Then there is that ECC memory as
Grant,
On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote:
> ...
> That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm"
> kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm"
> kernel versions from kernel.org are available as "stable" in
> gentoo-sources.
>
> It is a st
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:29:09 BST Eli Schwartz wrote:
[Big snip]
Never mind. I've solved the problem by removing sci-misc/boinc and its 40-odd
dependencies. The machine was only barely capable of running it anyway.
--
Regards,
Peter.
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:37:04 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Grant,
>
> On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote:
> > ...
> > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm"
> > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm"
> > kernel versions
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote:
>
> On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had
> more PCIe slots tho.
AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the
motherboard.
0.1% of the population cares about having anything on their
motherboa
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote:
>> On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had
>> more PCIe slots tho.
> AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the
> motherboard.
>
> 0.1% of the population cares about having
On 2024-04-17, Michael wrote:
>> > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a
>> > risk that my aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with
>> > newer and newer kernels, should I put something like
>> >
>> >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.7.0
>> >
>> > into fi
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Grant,
>
> On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote:
>
>> ...
>> That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm"
>> kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm"
>> kernel versions from kernel.org are availabl
Michael,
On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 10:10:56 +0100, you wrote:
> On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote:
> > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> > ...
> > > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a
> > > risk that my aging hardware possibly can l
Grant,
On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote:
> ...
> If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions,
> then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources.
I was not aware of this package. Excatly what could come in handy, if
everything else fails. Thank y
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote:
>
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs
> > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't
> > do anything if this is lacking, and you would need a dedicated GPU.
> >
>
>
Am 2024-04-17 12:33, schrieb Dale:
I found a benchmark website that compares the two. Link below. It
claims about 80% faster. In some ways, twice as fast. Sometimes those
bench tests don't reflect the real world to well. Most of them seem to
test gaming speeds which isn't of much use anyway f
On 17/04/2024 10:10, Michael wrote:
I am not sure the assumption "... aging hardware possibly can less and less
cope with newer and newer kernels" is correct. As already mentioned newer
kernels have both security and bug fixes. As long as you stick with stable
gentoo-sources you'll have these i
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Grant,
>
> On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote:
>
>> ...
>> If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions,
>> then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources.
>
> I was not aware of this package. Excatly what coul
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> 2) Lack of support for old hardware when running a newer kernels.
>
> I used to run into this when running nvidia-drivers.
> Gentoo-sources would mark a new kernel stable, but my video board
> would not be supported by nvidia-drivers versions that were
> su
Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote:
> >
> > Rich Freeman wrote:
> >
> > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs
> > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't
> > >
Meik Frischke wrote:
> Am 2024-04-17 12:33, schrieb Dale:
>> I found a benchmark website that compares the two. Link below. It
>> claims about 80% faster. In some ways, twice as fast. Sometimes those
>> bench tests don't reflect the real world to well. Most of them seem to
>> test gaming speeds
On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote:
> I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers. I to run into problems
> on occasion with drivers and kernels. When you switched from
> Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you
> install or kernel drivers?
All in-tree kernel drivers for integrated
On 2024-04-17, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics.
>> Even if the CPU costs a tiny bit more, it will give you a free empty
>> 16x PCIe slot at whatever speed the CPU supports (v5 in this case -
>> which is as good as you can get right now
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote:
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs
>>> do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't
>>> do anything if this is lacking, and you would need a d
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote:
>>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>>
All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs
do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote:
>
>> I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers. I to run into problems
>> on occasion with drivers and kernels. When you switched from
>> Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you
>> install or kernel drivers?
> All in-tree k
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