Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/17/2015 10:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > The cheat sheets are useful for reference, but I'd strongly encourage > anybody using systemd to get a decent understanding of the > fundamentals. Oh, certainly - but going in completely blind and being stuck for 15 minutes trying to do a simple task s

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mar 31, 2015 7:55 PM, "Daniel Frey" wrote: > > On 03/17/2015 10:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > The cheat sheets are useful for reference, but I'd strongly encourage > > anybody using systemd to get a decent understanding of the > > fundamentals. > > Oh, certainly - but going in completely blind

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/31/2015 07:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Thanks for doing this, I think it will help all the people switching to > systemd from OpenRC in Gentoo. > > However, I think the zap command is a little misleading, even with the > note stating that is no "exactly" the same. Duly noted, I've r

Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/21/2015 02:46 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > They are; basically everything nowadays is systemd aware. Even OpenRC > can now use some of its configurations. > > Could you run this immediately after booting: > > systemd-delta I've finally gotten around to doing this: --

Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/21/2015 02:46 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Could you run this immediately after booting: > > systemd-delta > > Just to check that the unit files you are using are not being overridden > by something. > OK, I've confirmed the poweroff target works fine but the reboot and shutdown ta

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread Gevisz
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 02:46:39 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 01:37:06 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > This really made my day. :-) > > > > https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html > > The best design ever! So nice and readable font, so yummy > background,

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread John Campbell
On 03/31/2015 09:39 PM, Gevisz wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 02:46:39 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 01:37:06 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html The best design ever! So nice and readable fon

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread Dale
Gevisz wrote: > It did not load from the first try for me. Than it take some time to > load from the second attempt. A really awful blue background. The > quote from the site: “We accept that members in more fortunate > circumstances may feel that a site with a 16-colour palette and an > optimal sc

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:46:39 -0500, Dale wrote: > Yea. We just batting ideas around. For me tho, it just turned into a > nightmare. If I needed to change something, which file is it in? At > one time I had a dozen or so files and digging through each one of them > wastes time. If I have just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: online browsable ebuilds by arch?

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:21:13 + (UTC), James wrote: > > It's not quite what you are asking for, but packages.g.o lets you > > filter by arch, and view the contents of ebuilds. > > Yea, I have seen that often when I google. Correct but is not > comprehensive but chronologically organized. I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
@Holger, that's my symptoms to tee... :-) Strangely it doesn't effect Arch Linux - running on the same box - with a newer 3.19.2 kernel. So they must have a patch for the issue (but I can't figure out what). Perhaps I'll check through the (stock) kernel configuration as well - to check it matches

Re: [gentoo-user] Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
Neil, Simply changing the ebuild version to 3.18.1 doesn't work. The kernel-2 eclass simply won't allow one to build a gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel lower than / before 3.18.9 now. (Try it if you don't believe me...) That was the first thing I tried. :-) On 31 March 2015 at 00:05, Neil Bothwick w

[gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Holger Hoffstätte
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:47:24 +0100, Bob Wya wrote: > @Holger, that's my symptoms to tee... :-) > > Strangely it doesn't effect Arch Linux - running on the same box - with a > newer 3.19.2 kernel. So they must have a patch for the issue (but I can't > figure out what). Perhaps I'll check through t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
@Nicolas This is the first place I went to. But I don't understand what all the different tar balls of gentoo kernel patch-sets actually mean. It would nice if the site had a little a bit of Wiki love to make it clearer. For example I can't figure out what steps are needed to apply the patchsets, t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
@Nicolas, I think I'm getting it now. The patchsets are cumulative and I just need the base patchset - right? I'm still a little unclear as to what kernel source I should apply the base patchset to. I want to rebuild the 3.18.8 kernel to double check it's free of the bug... I can see some nfs sus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. If enabled (I think > it is by default, may be wrong) you can use ctrl-alt-sysrq plus one these keys > even if your kernel panics or freezes in most cases (ctrl may only be nee

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
> > Easy to remember as "Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken" > > I remember it as the reverse of "busier". > A variant I read somewhere is "Raising (Skinny) Elephants Is So Utterly Boring". "Skinny" is an extra optional sync, it doesn't hurt and makes the mnemonic funnier.

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/03/2015 02:46, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:42:07 -0500, Dale wrote: >> I find the separate files much easier to manage as all the settings for each package are kept separate, and easily removed or changed - for example when I stop using the pack

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-03-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:20:23AM +0100, Mick wrote: > Given that the emul-linux-x86 package sets are now deprecated and we can now > with USE="abi_x86_32" emerge our own 32bit libraries where needed, is it now > easier to move from a no-multilib to a multilib environment, or will it still > re

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-03-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/03/2015 12:48, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:20:23AM +0100, Mick wrote: >> Given that the emul-linux-x86 package sets are now deprecated and we can now >> with USE="abi_x86_32" emerge our own 32bit libraries where needed, is it now >> easier to move from a no-multilib to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:51:11 +0100, Bob Wya wrote: lease don't top-post, it is frowned upon on this list, and for good reason. > Simply changing the ebuild version to 3.18.1 doesn't work. The kernel-2 > eclass simply won't allow one to build a gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel > lower than / before 3.

Re: [gentoo-user] Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
Neil, (a) Should I download the vanilla 3.18.1 kernel sources and apply all the gentoo-sources tar-ball patches in numerical order?? (b) I tried downloading the vanilla 3.18.8 kernel. But of course the earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.1 - 3.18.6 patches don't apply cleanly... Will I get to the same pl

Re: [gentoo-user] Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 31 March 2015 16:45:08 Bob Wya wrote: > Neil, > > (a) Should I download the vanilla 3.18.1 kernel sources and apply all the > gentoo-sources tar-ball patches in numerical order?? > > (b) I tried downloading the vanilla 3.18.8 kernel. But of course the > earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.1 -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: >>> >>> Easy to remember as "Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken" >> >> I remember it as the reverse of "busier". > > A variant I read somewhere is "Raising (Skinny) Elephants Is So Utterly > Boring". > "Skinny" is an extra optional sync,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: online browsable ebuilds by arch?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
On 31 March 2015 at 08:31, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:21:13 + (UTC), James wrote: > > > > It's not quite what you are asking for, but packages.g.o lets you > > > filter by arch, and view the contents of ebuilds. > > > > Yea, I have seen that often when I google. Correct but

[gentoo-user] mysql upgrade 5.5 > 5.6 mysql_upgrade needed?

2015-03-31 Thread Marko Weber | 8000
hello list, again i have to ask. Do i need to run mysql_upgrade after upgrading mysql 5.5 > 5.6 ? I ask because the post install text recommend this after an major upgrade. On the Mysql Website is a major upgrade 5.5 > 6.0, not 5.5 > 5.6 So i ask you guys. Any can help me? thank you marko

Re: [gentoo-user] mysql upgrade 5.5 > 5.6 mysql_upgrade needed?

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:27:38 +0200, Marko Weber | 8000 wrote: > Do i need to run mysql_upgrade after upgrading mysql 5.5 > 5.6 ? > I ask because the post install text recommend this after an major > upgrade. Do you *need* to? Possibly not. Should you do it? Yes. If you run it unnecessarily, it

[gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:17:27AM +0100, Bob Wya wrote: >@Nicolas, >I think I'm getting it now. The patchsets are cumulative and I just >need the base patchset - right? base, extras and experimental are all applied. >I'm still a little unclear as t

[gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread wabenbau
This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html -- Regards wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 01:37:06 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > This really made my day. :-) > > https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html The best design ever! So nice and readable font, so yummy background, very fast page load. Many thanks for Web project team for hard work! As

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 01.04.2015 um 01:37 schrieb waben...@gmail.com: > This really made my day. :-) > > https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html I hope you followed the links there to the new team websites. :-) Really cool the new website. Finally a modern website that's technologically up-to-da

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread wabenbau
Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 01.04.2015 um 01:37 schrieb waben...@gmail.com: > > This really made my day. :-) > > > > https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html > > I hope you followed the links there to the new team websites. :-) Of course I did. It's a long time ago that I played

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-03-31 Thread NP-Hardass
Holger Hoffstätte Wrote in message: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:20:23 +0100, Mick wrote: > >> Given that the emul-linux-x86 package sets are now deprecated and we can now >> with USE="abi_x86_32" emerge our own 32bit libraries where needed, is it now >> easier to move from a no-multilib to a multi

Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself

2015-03-31 Thread symack
Hello Hydra, Thank you for your response: The commands are bellow. Also, the Bios is almost 10 years old on the machine. Not sure if that info helps for the ACPI related messages. USE="app-emulation/xen-tools-4.3.1-r1 api hvm qenu screen -custom-cflags -debug -doc -flask -xend" USE="app-emulati