Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Dale wrote: > >> So, thoughts? Did it mark that part as bad and all is well or is this > >> going to be trouble down the line? Should I just fill the thing up with > >> data and test the stuffi

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz wrote: > Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, unless one attempts to cover what the login manager sets up, I don't think that a plain call with a plain `exec gnome-session` will work.

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:55:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > or... > > puppet and it's kin > > Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need. > I will recheck it again. What about something like monit? -- Neil Bothwick Bug: (n.) any program feature not yet described to

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote: >> >> >> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm >> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test >> every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of >> testing? I rea

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On Saturday 28 June 2014 11:25:10 Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On 28 June 2014 16:54:52 CEST, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> It's Wakes Week here and we've just had a triple fly-by by a Hurricane > >> > > >from > > > > >> the Battle of Britain Commemorative Flight. Last Saturday it was a >

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On Sunday 29 June 2014 00:18:06 Alan McKinnon wrote: > I suppose that's what happens when you don't fact-check. That'll teach > me :-) You reckon? :-) -- Regards Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

On Sunday, June 29, 2014 09:35:33 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:55:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > or... > > > puppet and it's kin > > > > Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need. > > I will recheck it again. > > What about something like monit?

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On Sunday, June 29, 2014 09:46:12 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 28 June 2014 11:25:10 Dale wrote: > > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > On 28 June 2014 16:54:52 CEST, Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > >> It's Wakes Week here and we've just had a triple fly-by by a Hurricane > > >> > > > >from > > >

[gentoo-user] Mosuewheel goes crazy...

Hi, normally the mouse wheel is used for action like scrolling and zooming... >From time to time it happens that -- right after using firefox -- this assignment does not work anymore and using wheel moves the application, which currently has the focus, is moved from desktop to desktop or moves t

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Here's the Spitfire run. Hurricane to follow. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuVn7R4AcY > Wow. Video is good but I bet being there is much better. I live about 4 or 5 miles from a air force base here. We have mostly training type planes that fly over us but on oc

Re: [gentoo-user] Mosuewheel goes crazy...

meino.cra...@gmx.de [14-06-29 11:20]: > Hi, > > normally the mouse wheel is used for action like scrolling and > zooming... > > From time to time it happens that -- right after using firefox -- > this assignment does not work anymore and using wheel moves the > application, which currently has t

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 09:42:39 Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote: > >> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm > >> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test > >> every few days, would it then catch a erro

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:05:58 +0200 Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 > Gevisz wrote:startxfce4 > > > Are you sure that you need gdm at all? > > Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, > unless one attempts to cover what the login manager sets u

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-keyring-daemon processes running as root

On Sun, Jun 15, 2014, at 11:08, Francesco Turco wrote: > As you can see I have many gnome-keyring-daemon processes running as > root. I also noted that on my system /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon has > the setuid bit set: > > $ ls -l /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon > -rws--x--x 1 root root 940184 Ju

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote: > > What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm > thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test > every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of > testing? I realize no one knows

[gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

Dear list, After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, the last step was to create a stage4, and replace my old hd. I did it, installed grub lecacy in chroot. No error reported during the installation. My /boot isn't a separated partition, and my root fs is ext4, just

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote: >> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm >> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test >> every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of >> testing?

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: OT: Mapping random numbers (PRNG)

Matti Nykyri schrieb: > On Jun 29, 2014, at 0:28, Kai Krakow wrote: >> >> Matti Nykyri schrieb: >> On Jun 27, 2014, at 0:00, Kai Krakow wrote: Matti Nykyri schrieb: > If you are looking a mathematically perfect solution there is a simple > one even if your list

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

On 29/06/14 20:17, João Matos wrote: > > Dear list, > > After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, > the last step was to create a stage4, and replace my old hd. > > I did it, installed grub lecacy in chroot. No error reported during the > installation. My /boot isn'

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

On 29/06/2014 14:17, João Matos wrote: > > Dear list, > > After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, > the last step was to create a stage4, and replace my old hd. > > I did it, installed grub lecacy in chroot. No error reported during the > installation. My /boot is

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On Sunday 29 June 2014 04:22:16 Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Here's the Spitfire run. Hurricane to follow. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuVn7R4AcY > > Wow. Video is good but I bet being there is much better. Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it fl

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:57:55PM -0500, Dale wrote: > I'm just going to try and buy another 3TB drive as soon as I can. I may > even make it into a removable thingy. Then I can make backups and just > put it in a outbuilding. By the way, my outbuilding is pretty far from For such use, I am p

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

2014-06-29 10:48 GMT-03:00 Alan McKinnon : > On 29/06/2014 14:17, João Matos wrote: > > > > Dear list, > > > > After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, > > the last step was to create a stage4, and replace my old hd. > > > > I did it, installed grub lecacy in chroot.

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

Peter Humphrey wrote: > Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, but the > Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet or so was among > the > two or three most impressive of my life. Both planes have V12 Rolls-Royce > Merlin engines (I think). As each

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 11:38 schrieb Dale : > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, > > but the Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet [...] Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or computers a

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On 29 June 2014 18:38:11 CEST, Dale wrote: >Peter Humphrey wrote: >> Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, >but the >> Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet or so was >among the >> two or three most impressive of my life. Both planes have V12 >R

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

On Sonntag, 29. Juni 2014, 13:02:12 João Matos wrote: > 2014-06-29 10:48 GMT-03:00 Alan McKinnon : > > On 29/06/2014 14:17, João Matos wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > > > After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, > > > the last step was to create a stage4, and replace

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

On 29/06/2014 18:02, João Matos wrote: > > > > 2014-06-29 10:48 GMT-03:00 Alan McKinnon >: > > On 29/06/2014 14:17, João Matos wrote: > > > > Dear list, > > > > After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very > well. So, >

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 > Gevisz wrote: > > > Are you sure that you need gdm at all? > > Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, > unless one attempts to cover what the login manager sets up, I don't > think that a plain call with a p

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 13:20 GMT-06:00 : > Tom Wijsman wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 >> Gevisz wrote: >> >> > Are you sure that you need gdm at all? >> >> Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, >> unless one attempts to cover what the login manager sets up, I do

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On 29/06/2014 18:38, Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: >> Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, but the >> Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet or so was among >> the >> two or three most impressive of my life. Both planes have V12 Rolls-Royc

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

On 06/29/2014 03:20 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tom Wijsman wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz wrote: Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, unless one attempts to cover what the login manager sets up,

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On 29/06/2014 18:51, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 11:38 > schrieb Dale : > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, >>> but the Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet > [...] > > Please folks, sto

[gentoo-user] mount.nfs stale nfs handle

Hi there, After upgrading my server to latest stable release of gentoo, none of my clients is able to mount any nfs share from the server anymore. Symptoms: $ mount -v -t nfs poseidon:/datadisk/ /mnt/gentoo/ mount.nfs: timeout set for Sun Jun 29 19:33:40 2014 mount.nfs: trying text-based options

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:28:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The Harvard trainers we were using when I was in the military all used > 140-odd octane gasoline, I beleive that's normal for aircraft piston > engines. It's still gas, but not what you put in the car. You should see > what that stuff does

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or > > computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war > > machines then please to this at another place and not on this list. > Allow me to introduce your

Re: [gentoo-user] mount.nfs stale nfs handle

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:34:07 +0200, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > After upgrading my server to latest stable release of gentoo, none of > my clients is able to mount any nfs share from the server anymore. [snip] > Server has kernel version 3.12.21-gentoo-r1and net-fs/nfs-utils-1.2.9 > installed.

[gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd. The 3 june news asserts "all systemd users are recommended to stay with sys-power/upower". However update world wants to uninstall upower and install upower-pm-

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

Michael Cook wrote: > On 06/29/2014 03:20 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 > >> Gevisz wrote: > >> > >>> Are you sure that you need gdm at all? > >> > >> Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, > >> u

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd > system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd. > > The 3 june news asserts "all systemd users are recommended to stay with > sys-power/upower". > > However up

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

Jc García wrote: > 2014-06-29 13:20 GMT-06:00 : > > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 > >> Gevisz wrote: > >> > >> > Are you sure that you need gdm at all? > >> > >> Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, > >> unless one attempts to cov

[gentoo-user] systemd warning kernel 3.10 required

What is the significance of the warning when updating to systemd-214 that kernel 3.10 is required? I can't go to that now, what might break? Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.co

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or > > > computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war > > > machines then please to this at

Re: [gentoo-user] mount.nfs stale nfs handle

Am Sonntag, 29. Juni 2014, 20:41:55 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:34:07 +0200, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > > After upgrading my server to latest stable release of gentoo, none of > > my clients is able to mount any nfs share from the server anymore. > > [snip] > > > Server has k

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 > schrieb Neil Bothwick : > >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war ma

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd warning kernel 3.10 required

On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM, wrote: > What is the significance of the warning when updating to systemd-214 > that kernel 3.10 is required? I can't go to that now, what might break? The README from systemd still says that you need 3.8 [1] (3.0 without some features); also, in the mailing lis

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 14:37 GMT-06:00 : > I have tried xfce4 using startx and it worked great under openrc and I > went to a lot of trouble to boot with systemd to keep using gnome, but > maybe I will go back to xfce4 after all, if using startx with > gnome-session gives problems. > If you want to run gnome

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd >> system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd. >> >> The 3 june news asserts "all systemd users are recommended

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:46:50 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > That's not the point. If you wanna talk about stuff that's apparently > absolut useless to almost every member of this ML, then you should do > this at another place. Especially discussions with politically and or > military backgroun

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

On Sun, Jun 29 2014, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o. > I will investigate them Pretty tricky huh. When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o.; but there are now. I will investigate them Sorry, allan

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

On 29/06/2014 23:57, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>> My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd >>> system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd. >>> >>> The 3

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26 schrieb Dale : > waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 > > schrieb Neil Bothwick : > > > >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or > computer

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 22:59 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:46:50 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > > That's not the point. If you wanna talk about stuff that's > > apparently absolut useless to almost every member of this ML, then > > you should do this at another place.

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/06/2014 23:57, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd system. The profile is .../gnom

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26 > schrieb Dale : > >> waben...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 >>> schrieb Neil Bothwick : >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to d

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 19:12 schrieb Dale : > waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26 > > schrieb Dale : > > > >> waben...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 > >>> schrieb Neil Bothwick : > >>> > On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wr

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 16:37:12 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Jc García wrote: > > > 2014-06-29 13:20 GMT-06:00 : > > > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > > > >> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 > > >> Gevisz wrote: > > >> > > >> > Are you sure that you need gdm at all? > > >> > > >> Yes, `startx

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On 30/06/2014 03:16, waben...@gmail.com wrote: >> This isn't the first time a topic has started or ended up being not >> > related to Gentoo or even computers. > You are really tenacious. :-) It seems that I should lower my > expectations regarding what's on-topic and what's not. Lets say, every >

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

On 30/06/2014 01:40, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > ...I decided that I will not receive this mailing list on my smartphone > any longer. Reading it on my Desktop-PC is sufficient. This will help me > to calm down. ;-) Good idea. This is a high-volume list with an extraordinarily high signal-to-nois