[gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

This revision makes 2 changes... A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that kmod depends on. Removing udev will avoid unnecessary cruft on your machine. B) Splitting up step 3) into 3a) and 3b) for greater cl

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

On 2012-03-11 03:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > "This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of > udev >=181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your > system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. Ok, I thank both you and Neil for this info. In hin

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > This revision makes 2 changes... > > A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 > and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that kmod depends > on. Removing udev will avoid unnecessary cruft on your machin

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

Hi! I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not find some scripts. The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not find /usr. So what I did was to include the fstab-sys smodule in dra

Re: [gentoo-user] gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 10 March 2012, at 20:56, András Csányi wrote: > … I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send > my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is > sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the > sender email address. … Do yo

Re: [gentoo-user] gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 11 March 2012 13:49, Stroller wrote: > > On 10 March 2012, at 20:56, András Csányi wrote: >> … I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send >> my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is >> sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 10/03/12 22:56, András Csányi wrote: Dear All, I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the sender email address. Doesn't the v

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On Mar 11, 2012 6:30 PM, "Daddy" wrote: > > On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > > > This revision makes 2 changes... > > > > A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 > > and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that kmod depends > > on. R

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Daddy wrote: > On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes > wrote: > > > This revision makes 2 changes... > > > > A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. > > udev-181 and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that > > kmod

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 2012-03-10, Andr??s Cs??nyi wrote: > I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send > my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is > sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the > sender email address. Indeed it does. AF

Re: [gentoo-user] gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On Mar 11, 2012 3:59 AM, "András Csányi" wrote: > > Dear All, > > I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send > my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is > sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the > sender email addr

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 11/03/12 16:41, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-03-10, Andr??s Cs??nyi wrote: I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the sender

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 11/03/12 16:49, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Mar 11, 2012 3:59 AM, "András Csányi" mailto:sayusi.a...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Dear All, > > I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send > my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu , and the email addres

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On Mar 11, 2012 10:08 PM, "Nikos Chantziaras" wrote: > > On 11/03/12 16:49, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> >> On Mar 11, 2012 3:59 AM, "András Csányi" > > wrote: >> > >> > Dear All, >> > >> > I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send >> > m

[gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

Hi people! I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3. First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or should I keep my fingers away of it?! http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 11/03/12 17:18, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Mar 11, 2012 10:08 PM, "Nikos Chantziaras" mailto:rea...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 11/03/12 16:49, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> >> On Mar 11, 2012 3:59 AM, "András Csányi" mailto:sayusi.a...@gmail.com> >>

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 2012-03-11, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > There is no "display from". I use Thunderbird and it reports the "from" > correctly (that is, it says the mail did not come from GMail.) All mail > clients do that. Outlook never used to. It always used to display the "on behalf of" stuff. > They u

[gentoo-user] hard drive encryption

Hello, I have not looked at encryption before and find myself in a situation that I have to encrypt my hard drive. I keep /, /boot, and swap outside LVM, everything else is under LVM. I think all I need to do is to encrypt /home which is under LVM. I use reiserfs. I would appreciate suggestion a

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0100 Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi people! > I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3. > > First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or > should I keep my fingers away of it?! > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrad

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 11/03/12 18:14, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-03-11, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: There is no "display from". I use Thunderbird and it reports the "from" correctly (that is, it says the mail did not come from GMail.) All mail clients do that. Outlook never used to. It always used to display

[gentoo-user] Re: gmail smtp overwrites the sender

On 2012-03-11, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 11/03/12 18:14, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2012-03-11, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >>> There is no "display from". I use Thunderbird and it reports the >>> "from" correctly (that is, it says the mail did not come from GMail.) >>> All mail clients do t

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012/3/11 Jorge Martínez López : > Hi! > > I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut > thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not > find some scripts. > > The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not > find /usr. So what I

Re: [gentoo-user] hard drive encryption

Am 11.03.2012 16:38, schrieb Valmor de Almeida: > > Hello, > > I have not looked at encryption before and find myself in a situation > that I have to encrypt my hard drive. I keep /, /boot, and swap outside > LVM, everything else is under LVM. I think all I need to do is to > encrypt /home which

Re: [gentoo-user] tracking IT work

Am 09.03.2012 14:37, schrieb Stefan Schmiedl: > Am 08.03.2012 20:00, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> oh, sorry, vi(m) here :-P > > I'm using a plain text file (ok |-separated values) for this and a > single macro: > > imap m \| "=strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M")pa¶ > > Then, in insert mode \m ap

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:27:05 -0400 (EDT) > Daddy wrote: > >> On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes >> wrote: >> >> >   This revision makes 2 changes... >> > >> > A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. >> > udev-181 a

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi people! > I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3. > > First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or > should I keep my fingers away of it?! > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xm

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 07:27:05AM -0400, Daddy wrote > Having personally long considered Lennart Poettering a 'spawn of > the devil' my question is ... is this your reaction to systemd? It's my reaction to the "Windows-isation" and "Firefox-isation" of linux. So far I've managed to keep syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On March 11, 2012 at 10:17 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:27:05 -0400 (EDT) > Daddy wrote: > > > On March 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM Walter Dnes > > wrote: > > > > > This revision makes 2 changes... > > > > > > A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. > > > udev-

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On March 11, 2012 at 3:28 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 07:27:05AM -0400, Daddy wrote > > > Having personally long considered Lennart Poettering a 'spawn of > > the devil' my question is ... is this your reaction to systemd? > > It's my reaction to the "Windows-isation" and

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Daddy wrote: > First, my class is old fart. Though I'm always in IRC, mailing lists and > forums are more my speed. [snip] > > Kindest regards, > > Bruce Hill Hi Bruce, You are cordially invited to join the "Gentoo Old Timers Club" [1] All the best :) David [1] ht

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Daddy wrote: > We have spare parts so tomorrow I'll build a test machine. My Gentoo > knowledge is quite limited, seeing as how we moved back after 9 years > and had to start life over. But I can start by following this guide, > and probably reading and le

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:10:14 -0400 David Abbott wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Daddy > wrote: > > > First, my class is old fart. Though I'm always in IRC, mailing > > lists and forums are more my speed. > [snip] > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Bruce Hill > Hi Bruce, > You are cordia

[gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

On 03/11/2012 05:16 AM, Jorge Martínez López wrote: > Hi! Hi Jorge. > I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM I'm just curious why you use a separate /usr, and why you are willing to struggle to keep it that way. Several people have posted opinions here in recent months, but I do

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:10:14 -0400 > David Abbott wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Daddy >> wrote: >> >>> First, my class is old fart. Though I'm always in IRC, mailing >>> lists and forums are more my speed. >> [snip] >>> >>> Kindest regards, >>> >>> Bruce Hil

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

Correcting a typo pointed out in the earlier post today. This revision makes 2 changes... A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional. udev-181 and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that kmod depends on. Removing udev will avoid unnecessary cruft on your machine

[gentoo-user] How are Fn-F# ACPI events mapped?

Hi, I'm trying to figure out how my Asus laptop maps function key events. This is being driven by an emerge message telling me that the acpi4asus package is being obsoleted and removed in 30 days and replaced by an in-kernel driver. I've removed the package and rebuilt my kernels to use this dri

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

YoYo Siska writes: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 03:35:05PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I use an ext2 filesystem for portage, it's still the fastest out > > there. Journals are unnecessary because its such a small filesystem, > > and if it does get damaged I can just reformat and sync again. Rep

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On March 11, 2012 at 4:10 PM David Abbott wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Daddy wrote: > > > First, my class is old fart. Though I'm always in IRC, mailing lists and > > forums are more my speed. > [snip] > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Bruce Hill > Hi Bruce, > You are cordially invit

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On March 11, 2012 at 4:27 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT) > Daddy wrote: > > > We have spare parts so tomorrow I'll build a test machine. My Gentoo > > knowledge is quite limited, seeing as how we moved back after 9 years > > and had to start life over. But I

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Daddy wrote: > > > On March 11, 2012 at 4:27 PM Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT) > > Daddy wrote: > > > > > We have spare parts so tomorrow I'll build a test machine. My > > > Gentoo knowledge is quite limited, see

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

On March 11, 2012 at 5:20 PM Dale wrote: > Bruce, > > Aren't you a bit younger than me? If so, I'm a old fart too. ;-) > > [/Bruce] > > BTW folks, I have met Bruce, and family, in person and we have talked in > various ways for years. We live about 75 miles apart. My lady friend > ain't ge

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5

Daddy wrote: > > > > On March 11, 2012 at 5:20 PM Dale wrote: > >> Bruce, >> >> Aren't you a bit younger than me? If so, I'm a old fart too. ;-) >> >> [/Bruce] >> >> BTW folks, I have met Bruce, and family, in person and we have talked in >> various ways for years. We live about 75 miles a

[gentoo-user] Can I do a one-time boot to non-default kernel in Lilo?

Not exactly your typical "remote machine", but the principle is the same. I have a dedicated HTPC machine next to my 50" plasma, connected by 50 feet of ethernet cable to my computer den. I use the TV as a monitor when running NHL GameCenter Live. I have Lilo set up to "dual boot" between a

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I do a one-time boot to non-default kernel in Lilo?

On March 11, 2012 at 11:16 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > Not exactly your typical "remote machine", but the principle is the > same. I have a dedicated HTPC machine next to my 50" plasma, connected > by 50 feet of ethernet cable to my computer den. I use the TV as a > monitor when running NHL Ga

[gentoo-user]Can't went to the xfce desktop directly

Hello , everyone . I have install the xfce-meta followed the xfce handbook . But when i restart the computer . And the login manager(slim) appeared. I just enter my account and passwd . After that . the computer have become black with a mouse icon like x . And i should use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to went

Re: [gentoo-user]Can't went to the xfce desktop directly

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:26:40 +0800 赵佳晖 wrote: > Hello , everyone . I have install the xfce-meta followed the xfce > handbook . But when i restart the computer . And the login > manager(slim) appeared. I just enter my account and passwd . After > that . the computer have become black with a mo