Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-18 Thread Mickaël Bucas
2010/1/15 Jarry : > Hi, I'm facing this problem: > > I want to exchange hard-drive in my computer for other, bigger > one. I do not want to add new hard-drive somewhere on mount-point > permanently, I just want to copy everything from the old drive > to the new one and then get rid of the old one.

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Walker
Alan McKinnon wrote: >> The only way to be sure of that is to write your own replacement for HAL. >> ;) >> > > That might not be a bad idea > > I never agreed with the implementation of hal. An abstract layer sounds good, > but why must it abstract ALL hardware? Most software already kno

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sonntag, 17. Januar 2010 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:40:44 +0100, YoYo siska wrote: > > . If you are doing it this way (on a running system with mounted > > dev/proc/sys...), you can just bind-mount your current / to another > > directory. That "copy" will not contain any "s

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild - how to force it to run?

2010-01-18 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, because of that KDE3/4 mess I have to keep kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 (I still need kexi which is not available for koffice, yet.) But now, emerge @preserved-rebuild doesn't work anymore since it terminates after telling me there are no ebuilds to satisfy "kde-base/kdelibs:3.5" That's true but I

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild - how to force it to run?

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, because of that KDE3/4 mess I have to keep kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 (I still need kexi which is not available for koffice, yet.) But now, emerge @preserved-rebuild doesn't work anymore since it terminates after telling me there are no ebuilds to satisfy "kde-base/kdelib

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild - how to force it to run?

2010-01-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Montag, 18. Januar 2010 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > Hi, > > because of that KDE3/4 mess I have to keep kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 > (I still need kexi which is not available for koffice, yet.) > > But now, > emerge @preserved-rebuild > doesn't work anymore since it terminates after telling me > there a

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Neil Walker wrote: It seems xml is the fashion with certain programmers. Totally unnecessary. :( Be lucky, Neil http://www.neiljw.com +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not just keep it simple? Is xml REALLY needed? Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 January 2010 12:10:59 Dale wrote: > Neil Walker wrote: > > It seems xml is the fashion with certain programmers. Totally > > unnecessary. :( > > > > > > Be lucky, > > > > Neil > > http://www.neiljw.com > > +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not > just k

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 12:10:59 Dale wrote: Neil Walker wrote: It seems xml is the fashion with certain programmers. Totally unnecessary. :( Be lucky, Neil http://www.neiljw.com +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not jus

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:59:07 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Most devices fall into one of two groups: storage and I/O. > Auto-mounters do not care about your keyboard, whereas X needs to know > about your monitor, card, keyboard, mouse. Why does hal try and > abstract both? Seems silly to me. On t

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild - how to force it to run?

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:46:23 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote: > because of that KDE3/4 mess I have to keep kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 > (I still need kexi which is not available for koffice, yet.) > > But now, > emerge @preserved-rebuild > doesn't work anymore since it terminates after telling me >

Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?

2010-01-18 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! It's done! I'm at ~x86 now. The upgrade went quite smooth - had to resolve some blockers, and mask the new x.org 1.7 because it does not work at all with ati-drivers. **BUT:** After rebooting, I ran into a very nasty KDE4 bug. All authentication dialogs did not work. So I had no KDE

[gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread Stroller
Hi there, Yesterday I reseated the network cable between my server cupboard and my desk, and it now lights up on the switch by my desk as gigabit. But a file-transfer today is slower than I might have hoped. I'm not ruling out the cable, because it's pretty beat up (but the switch *is* li

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 January 2010 13:50:55 Stroller wrote: > Any estimates over what kind of speed I should be seeing for large > file-transfers over Samba? Wildly ball-park is fine - I wouldn't > expect a 10x speed increase, but maybe 2x or 3x - 4x would be great! > Somewhere on the order of 400-600

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:50, Stroller wrote: > I'm not ruling out the cable, because it's pretty beat up (but the switch > *is* lighting up as 1000), but how do I determine, please, that the Linux > server at the other end is recognising the NIC and negotiating as gigabit > speeds? If i recall

[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/18/2010 01:50 PM, Stroller wrote: Hi there, Yesterday I reseated the network cable between my server cupboard and my desk, and it now lights up on the switch by my desk as gigabit. But a file-transfer today is slower than I might have hoped. I'm not ruling out the cable, because it's pret

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Jan 2010, at 12:14, Ward Poelmans wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:50, Stroller > wrote: I'm not ruling out the cable, because it's pretty beat up (but the switch *is* lighting up as 1000), but how do I determine, please, that the Linux server at the other end is recognising the NIC a

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread YoYo siska
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:50:55AM +, Stroller wrote: > Hi there, > > Yesterday I reseated the network cable between my server cupboard and my > desk, and it now lights up on the switch by my desk as gigabit. But a > file-transfer today is slower than I might have hoped. > > I'm not ruling ou

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Stroller wrote: > Hi there, > > Yesterday I reseated the network cable between my server cupboard and my > desk, and it now lights up on the switch by my desk as gigabit. But a > file-transfer today is slower than I might have hoped. > > I'm not ruling out the cabl

[gentoo-user] tvtime overscan not centered

2010-01-18 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I recently got my old TV tuner card out of the closed and decided to set it up. The kernel's v4l2 drivers support my card and it works just fine with tvtime. However, tvtime's overscan setting doesn't center the image correctly; when increasing the overscan value (to get rid of some random cr

Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox not starting after login with SLIM

2010-01-18 Thread Marco
Hi, sorry for late reply. I was on a business trip. Mick's link got me to the solution of the problem. Related information can also be found under http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml echo 'XSESSION="fluxbox"' > /etc/env.d/90xsession solved my problem. (Now I've got to find out wh

[gentoo-user] see what's been emerged

2010-01-18 Thread James
All, I posted this question about a year ago and can't find the email or answer for the life of me...so I'll try again. :) I'm trying to find a file or database that keeps track of everything I've emerged since I set my system up, preferably in chronological order. Where / how can I obtain this

Re: [gentoo-user] Can you rewrite this 1996 qfile command?

2010-01-18 Thread Grant
>> I've hit a bug that won't let me start an xfce4 session.  I think it >> was caused by upgrading glibc, and it is pretty well described in this >> nearly 4-year-old bug: >> >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/125909 >> >> The solution is presented as: >> >> qlist -o $(qlist -ICv) | scanelf -Bs__guard -qf -

[gentoo-user] Re: kde wont log in user

2010-01-18 Thread James
Mick gmail.com> writes: > > I'm running kde-meta 4.3.3 > > It's the kde screen where you put your login and passwd. > > It flashes for a second or 2, like the passwd is accepted, but > > kde cannot start. > > If I do not auto start kdm via rc-update, then I can log in as a user > > and X start

Re: [gentoo-user] exaile + XFCE + global shortcuts

2010-01-18 Thread Arnau Bria
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:55:46 + Mick Mick wrote: Hi Mick, > > Thank your for bringing it to our attention! I've been on a > > lookout for an amarok replacement. > > > > I just installed it so I'm not up to speed with it to answer your > > question, but I am having a similar problem. When I

Re: [gentoo-user] Can you rewrite this 1996 qfile command?

2010-01-18 Thread Grant
>>> I've hit a bug that won't let me start an xfce4 session.  I think it >>> was caused by upgrading glibc, and it is pretty well described in this >>> nearly 4-year-old bug: >>> >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/125909 >>> >>> The solution is presented as: >>> >>> qlist -o $(qlist -ICv) | scanelf -Bs__gu

Re: [gentoo-user] see what's been emerged

2010-01-18 Thread Alex Schuster
James writes: > All, > > I posted this question about a year ago and can't find the email or > answer for the life of me...so I'll try again. :) On 2009-06-28, the answer was this: for f in `ls -rt \`find /var/db/pkg -name "*.ebuild"\``; do basename $f .ebuild; done > I'm trying to find a file

[gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-18 Thread Harry Putnam
walt writes: > On 01/16/2010 01:32 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> I hadn't done a full reinstall for a good while, long enough that I >> missed out on whateve was said about the change over from using >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf to control the X display to whatever does it now. >> >> So my first question i

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - What SATA CD-R/DVD-R drive manufacturer to buy?

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > My 5-year old gentoo-AMD64 machine when up in smoke this week so I'm > building a new machine. Most parts are on order but one big change > these days is the motherboards I want to purchase no longer support > EIDE/ATAPI interfaces so I'

[gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-18 Thread Harry Putnam
pk writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: > >> For now, with hal, with dbus, assuming no xorg.conf... where are >> custom settings regarding the X session done? > > Under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/... or you could continue to use the old > xorg.conf since that will override what's in ...xorg.conf.d/ OK, let m

Re: [gentoo-user] see what's been emerged

2010-01-18 Thread Anton Bobov
Hi. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:03:26 -0500, James wrote: > I posted this question about a year ago and can't find the email or > answer for the life of me...so I'll try again. :) > > I'm trying to find a file or database that keeps track of everything > I've emerged since I set my system up, pref

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:14 PM, pk wrote: > Btw, devicekit has been renamed to udisks. > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc2NA The whole of DeviceKit was not renamed, just the DeviceKit-disks program was renamed to udisks. And yes I think it all uses XML config files too, li

Re: [gentoo-user] see what's been emerged

2010-01-18 Thread James
I guess I had deleted that email -- shame...many thanks for pulling up the answer. I greatly appreciate it! -j On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > James writes: > >> All, >> >> I posted this question about a year ago and can't find the email or >> answer for the life of me..

Re: [gentoo-user] see what's been emerged

2010-01-18 Thread James
Thanks Anton...much appreciated! -j On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Anton Bobov wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:03:26 -0500, James wrote: >> I posted this question about a year ago and can't find the email or >> answer for the life of me...so I'll try again. :) >> >> I'm trying to

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 04:10:59AM -0600, Dale wrote: > +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not > just keep it simple? Is xml REALLY needed? XML is handy for nested configuration, where various options apply to specific subsets of other configuration items. I coul

[gentoo-user] Re: see what's been emerged

2010-01-18 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/18/2010 05:03 PM, James wrote: All, I posted this question about a year ago and can't find the email or answer for the life of me...so I'll try again. :) I'm trying to find a file or database that keeps track of everything I've emerged since I set my system up, preferably in chronological

Re: [gentoo-user] see what's been emerged

2010-01-18 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 10:03 -0500, James wrote: > All, > > I posted this question about a year ago and can't find the email or > answer for the life of me...so I'll try again. :) > > I'm trying to find a file or database that keeps track of everything > I've emerged since I set my system up, pref

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread pk
Dale wrote: > Stop lurking and just join me. lol ... "Darth Vader: Luke, join me and I will complete your training..." ;-) Best regards Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:14 PM, pk wrote: Btw, devicekit has been renamed to udisks. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc2NA The whole of DeviceKit was not renamed, just the DeviceKit-disks program was renamed to udisks. And yes I think it all u

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/18/2010 5:10 AM, Dale wrote: +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not just keep it simple? Is xml REALLY needed? XML allows you to generate complex, structured, hierarchical data that can be read, changed, and stored by well-tested third party libraries that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote: pk writes: Harry Putnam wrote: For now, with hal, with dbus, assuming no xorg.conf... where are custom settings regarding the X session done? Under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/... or you could continue to use the old xorg.conf since that will override what's in .

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - What SATA CD-R/DVD-R drive manufacturer to buy?

2010-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Hi, >>  My 5-year old gentoo-AMD64 machine when up in smoke this week so I'm >> building a new machine. Most parts are on order but one big change >> these days is the motherboards I want

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-18 Thread pk
Harry Putnam wrote: > Using only the current setup, that is, one with hal and dbus installed > and one that does not use xorg.conf... and apparently does not use > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d either... since that directory is not present. > > But yet an X display happens when I type `startx', apparently

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - What SATA CD-R/DVD-R drive manufacturer to buy?

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> Hi, >>> My 5-year old gentoo-AMD64 machine when up in smoke this week so I'm >>> building a new machine. Most parts are on ord

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > pk writes: > >> Harry Putnam wrote: >> >>> For now, with hal, with dbus, assuming no xorg.conf... where are >>> custom settings regarding the X session done? >> >> Under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/... or you could continue to use the old >> xorg.co

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 January 2010 18:26:21 Mike Edenfield wrote: > > +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not > > just keep it simple? Is xml REALLY needed? > > XML allows you to generate complex, structured, hierarchical data that > can be read, changed, and stored by well-te

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread Hung Dang
One more thing. The file transfer speed is min(max(HDD),max(NIC),max(others)) so it will depend on your HDD, your network and other reasons. I find out that using sftp command seem to be faster than NFS or Samba. Could you try sftp and check if it is faster or not? Then check the dmesg as well as n

Re: [gentoo-user] Can you rewrite this 1996 qfile command?

2010-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 January 2010 17:12:41 Grant wrote: > > # qlist -o $(qlist -ICv) | scanelf -Bs__guard -qf - -F%F#s | xargs qfile > > Usage: qfile : list all pkgs owning files > > > > Options: -[ef:m:oRx:vqChV] > > -e, --exact * Exact match > > -f, --from * Read arguments from file

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - What SATA CD-R/DVD-R drive manufacturer to buy?

2010-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman >> wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi,  My 5-year old gentoo-AMD64 machine when up in smoke this

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 18:26:21 Mike Edenfield wrote: +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not just keep it simple? Is xml REALLY needed? XML allows you to generate complex, structured, hierarchical data that can be read, changed, an

Re: [gentoo-user] Can you rewrite this 1996 qfile command?

2010-01-18 Thread Arttu V.
On 1/18/10, Grant wrote: >>> I've hit a bug that won't let me start an xfce4 session. I think it >>> was caused by upgrading glibc, and it is pretty well described in this >>> nearly 4-year-old bug: >>> >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/125909 >>> >>> The solution is presented as: >>> >>> qlist -o $(qli

Re: [gentoo-user] Can you rewrite this 1996 qfile command?

2010-01-18 Thread Grant
I've hit a bug that won't let me start an xfce4 session.  I think it was caused by upgrading glibc, and it is pretty well described in this nearly 4-year-old bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/125909 The solution is presented as: qlist -o $(qlist -ICv) | scanel

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Walker
Mike Edenfield wrote: > XML allows you to generate complex, structured, hierarchical data that > can be read, changed, and stored by well-tested third party libraries > that don't need to know anything about the contents or meaning of your > configuration data beforehand. This means I, as a develo

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On Monday 18 January 2010 18:26:21 Mike Edenfield wrote: >> +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not just keep it simple? Is xml REALLY needed? >>> >>> XML allows you to gener

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 18:26:21 Mike Edenfield wrote: +1 I do OK with plain text but no clue on the new xml stuff. Why not just keep it simple? Is xml REALLY needed? XML allo

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread James Ausmus
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Dale wrote: That was my problem, no keyboard or mouse. Sort of hard to do much in that > situation. > Dale > > Pshaw... ;) --, or, if that doesn't work: --R - Of course, method 2 only works if you have the "Magic SysRq keys" (or whatever it's called) option

Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray

2010-01-18 Thread Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas
Hello fellows, Now, it has support to search at database with eix, to install and unistall packages. Here two more shots of the new interface: http://yfrog.com/5gkportagetray06p, http://yfrog.com/5gkportagetray07p You just need to rebuild the package using the ebuild I sent before. Hope you li

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
James Ausmus wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Dale > wrote: That was my problem, no keyboard or mouse. Sort of hard to do much in that situation. Dale Pshaw... ;) --, or, if that doesn't work: --R - Of course, method 2 only works if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread James Ausmus
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Dale wrote: > James Ausmus wrote: > > >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Dale > rdalek1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >>That was my problem, no keyboard or mouse. Sort of hard to do >>much in that situation. >>Dale >> >> >> Pshaw... ;) >> >> --,

[gentoo-user] when emerging: " Wrong number of fields in NEEDED.ELF.2" messages

2010-01-18 Thread Alan E. Davis
It has happened that when emerging packages, the following message is listed at the end of the emerge process: Wrong number of fields in NEEDED.ELF.2 May I ask for advice? Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 January 2010 22:47:05 Dale wrote: > In that case, ctrl alt F1 does nothing. You also need to understand > that most people don't even know how to use SysRq keys. I didn't and > had to do a hard shutdown. I had to actually pull the plug to do any > good. Luckily I knew how to get

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 January 2010 23:04:56 James Ausmus wrote: > And this is why it is a Very Good Thing to spread the word about the Magic > SysRq keys. Did -- not do anything, or a single press of > the power button (which should send an ACPI shutdown signal, causing the > system to self-power-off)? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread James Ausmus
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 18 January 2010 23:04:56 James Ausmus wrote: > > And this is why it is a Very Good Thing to spread the word about the > Magic > > SysRq keys. Did -- not do anything, or a single press of > > the power button (which should send an

Re: [gentoo-user] when emerging: " Wrong number of fields in NEEDED.ELF.2" messages

2010-01-18 Thread James Ausmus
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > It has happened that when emerging packages, the following message is > listed at the end of the emerge process: > > Wrong number of fields in NEEDED.ELF.2 > > May I ask for advice? > > Never seen that issue before, but maybe try to re-emer

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
James Ausmus wrote: I'll try to stop being a smart-ass, but it's just one of those kind of days... -James I have those days too. They tend to come in bunches tho. ;-) Dale :-) :-)

[gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread walt
Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your results? As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt. Now, where you would normally type your root password, just type Ctrl-d instead. What do you see? (I'm ruling out evil spirits here, so please bear with me ;) Thanks for

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:07:21 -0800 walt wrote: > Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your > results? > > As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt. Now, where you > would normally type your root password, just type Ctrl-d instead. > > What do you see? (I'm ruling

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2010/1/18 walt : > Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your > results? > > As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt.  Now, where you > would normally type your root password, just type Ctrl-d instead. > > What do you see? (I'm ruling out evil spirits here, so please

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:13:55 +0100, Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:07:21 -0800 walt wrote: Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your results? As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt. Now, where you would normally type your root password, jus

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - What SATA CD-R/DVD-R drive manufacturer to buy?

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:38:16 -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: > I have a cheap Sony Optiarc (formerly NEC?) and it has worked fine for > me for ripping and burning audio CDs, DVD+/-R (single and dual layer). > It cost around $25 USD. I don't know if it is better or worse than any > other brand but it se

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 19 January 2010 00:07:21 walt wrote: > Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your > results? > > As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt. Now, where you > would normally type your root password, just type Ctrl-d instead. > > What do you see? (I'm ruling

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:50:36 -0800, James Ausmus wrote: > > Very recent buyers of Lenovo laptops don't even *have* a SysRq key > > anymore. I > > reckon it won't be long before other makers follow suit. I can see > > Lenovo's point: there's probably less than 10,000 people in the whole > > world t

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:04:56 -0800, James Ausmus wrote: > Another option (I know - too late for you, but might be useful for > someone that runs across this on Google), is to press I during the > initscript processes - enters "Interactive Boot" mode, so you can Y/N > individual startup scripts, in

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:53:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Your post makes sense until you realise that the use of XML in a > configuration designed to be changed by the user renders the package > virtually unusable. Given a choice between me as a developer struggling > with a config parser versus

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 22:47:05 Dale wrote: In that case, ctrl alt F1 does nothing. You also need to understand that most people don't even know how to use SysRq keys. I didn't and had to do a hard shutdown. I had to actually pull the plug to do any good. Luckily

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - What SATA CD-R/DVD-R drive manufacturer to buy?

2010-01-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:38:16 -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: > > > I have a cheap Sony Optiarc (formerly NEC?) and it has worked fine for > > me for ripping and burning audio CDs, DVD+/-R (single and dual layer). > > It cost around $25 USD. I don't know if it is better or worse

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 19 January 2010 00:29:18 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:53:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Your post makes sense until you realise that the use of XML in a > > configuration designed to be changed by the user renders the package > > virtually unusable. Given a choice be

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 23:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 18 January 2010 22:47:05 Dale wrote: > > In that case, ctrl alt F1 does nothing. You also need to understand > > that most people don't even know how to use SysRq keys. I didn't and > > had to do a hard shutdown. I had to actu

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread John H. Moe
Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > 2010/1/18 walt : > >> Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your >> results? >> >> As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt. Now, where you >> would normally type your root password, just type Ctrl-d instead. >> >> What do you see? (I'm rul

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde wont log in user

2010-01-18 Thread Mick
On Monday 18 January 2010 15:09:39 James wrote: > Mick gmail.com> writes: > > I suspect that you probably have fallen victim to the great conspiracy of > > baselayout doing away with rc.conf and not screaming it LOUD ENOUGH to > > make sure that we set up the XSESSION variable so that the appropr

[gentoo-user] iwlwifi or 4965 mailing list

2010-01-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi, can anyone find a mailing list for the iwl 4965 project? From here http://intellinuxwireless.org/ it seems the "ipw3945 and iwlwifi mailing list" are the same, and I think the 4965 is in the iwlwifi project... I can only find a 3945 devel list at sourceforge: https://lists.sourceforge.net/li

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
walt wrote: Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your results? As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt. Now, where you would normally type your root password, just type Ctrl-d instead. What do you see? (I'm ruling out evil spirits here, so please bear with me ;

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread ubiquitous1980
Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:13:55 +0100, Allan Gottlieb > wrote: > >> At Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:07:21 -0800 walt wrote: >> >>> Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your >>> results? >>> >>> As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt. Now, where you >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:04:56 -0800, James Ausmus wrote: Another option (I know - too late for you, but might be useful for someone that runs across this on Google), is to press I during the initscript processes - enters "Interactive Boot" mode, so you can Y/N individual

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:43:58 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > Using only the current setup, that is, one with hal and dbus installed > and one that does not use xorg.conf... and apparently does not use > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d either... since that directory is not present. > > But yet an X display happ

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 23:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 22:47:05 Dale wrote: In that case, ctrl alt F1 does nothing. You also need to understand that most people don't even know how to use SysRq keys. I didn't and had to do a hard shutdo

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:18:16 -0600, Dale wrote: > Being my sometimes helpful self. lol > > Password: > su: Authentication information cannot be recovered > > > That normal I guess? Then I'm not! I get $ su Password: su: Authentication failure -- Neil Bothwick Someone who thinks logicall

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:09:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > XML is a machine-readable file format that just happens to use ASCII > > characters, it is not meant to be modified by a text editor, so if > > your program uses XML configuration files, it should include a means > > of editing those fil

Re: [gentoo-user] Can you rewrite this 1996 qfile command?

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:34:04 +0200, Arttu V. wrote: > Solar's one-liner is likely working perfectly here. The one-liner just > doesn't find any binaries with the ancient SSP symbol, and thus args > for qfile are empty -- leading into qfile printing its usage. Does this mean using the --no-run-if-

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 19 January 2010 00:29:18 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:53:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Your post makes sense until you realise that the use of XML in a configuration designed to be changed by the user renders the package virtually unusable

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread James Ausmus
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On Tuesday 19 January 2010 00:29:18 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> >>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:53:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> >>> Your post makes sense until you realise that the use of XML in a configuration des

[gentoo-user] Re: A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread walt
On 01/18/2010 02:14 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: 2010/1/18 walt: Can I trouble you folks to do this ten-second test and report your results? As an ordinary user, type 'su' at a bash prompt. Now, where you would normally type your root password, just type Ctrl-d instead. What do you see? (I'm rul

[gentoo-user] [OT] Something like Webresearch for linux

2010-01-18 Thread Harry Putnam
I wondered if anyone here knows of a linux tool that is similar to webresearch: http://www.macropool.de/en/products/webresearch/index.html Its one of those clip and save from the internet (or whole pages) kind of things that allows you to make a hierarchy of folders and has some useful search c

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 18:23 -0600, Dale wrote: > Iain Buchanan wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 23:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > >> On Monday 18 January 2010 22:47:05 Dale wrote: > >> > >>> In that case, ctrl alt F1 does nothing. You also need to understand > >>> that most people d

Re: [gentoo-user] A quick test of su

2010-01-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Jan 2010, at 22:13, Allan Gottlieb wrote: ... gottl...@allan ~ $ su Password: su: Authentication information cannot be recovered gottl...@allan ~ $ On my Linux boxes I get the same as everyone else. My Mac apologises to me. :/ Stroller.

[gentoo-user] Re: Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread walt
On 01/18/2010 09:53 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Just as code is read many more times than it is written, so is a package configured by the end user many more times than the config parser studied by the developer. Your post makes sense until you realise that the use of XML in a configuration design

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?

2010-01-18 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Mon, 01/18, Stroller wrote: === > I'm not ruling out the cable, because it's pretty beat up (but the > switch *is* lighting up as 1000), but how do I determine, please, > that the Linux server at the other end is recognising the NIC and > negotiating as gigabit speeds? === ethtool eth0

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - What SATA CD-R/DVD-R drive manufacturer to buy?

2010-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:38:16 -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> > I have a cheap Sony Optiarc (formerly NEC?) and it has worked fine for >> > me for ripping and burning audio CDs, DVD+/-R (single and dual layer). >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Jan 2010, at 21:50, James Ausmus wrote: Very recent buyers of Lenovo laptops don't even *have* a SysRq key anymore. I reckon it won't be long before other makers follow suit. I can see Lenovo's point: there's probably less than 10,000 people in the whole world that ever used that key

Re: [gentoo-user] Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Jan 2010, at 17:53, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... XML allows you to generate complex, structured, hierarchical data that can be read, changed, and stored by well-tested third party libraries that don't need to know anything about the contents or meaning of your configuration data beforehan

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