On Sunday 22 March 2009, Mike Diehl wrote:
> Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
>
> But before I could do that, I had to upgrade portage, with made
> sense.
>
> When I go to emerge -u portage, I'm told:
>
> sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-7.1)
>
> So I do:
> emerge -C mktemp
>
> Now
090322 Francesco Talamona wrote:
> I used LVM paired with soft RAID & when I needed to boot from a liveCD
> I discovered that I had to rebuild the setup by hand.
I recently had a small problem with start-up caused by a PPP glitch
& accessed the box with System Rescue 1.1.0 on a CD.
I was surprised
Hi!
I have a PDF document. One of documet's page is a (scalable) schematics.
Printing the page via my A4 Kyocera isn't suitable - I can see a schematics
with a lens only :-) Is there a way to split the page (into 2 or 4 parts) and
ptint parts separately (saving a scale, of course)?
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> > Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
>
> I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
> then decide which packages to update & emerge them individually.
I hope you use --oneshot every time or your world file will be a complete
mess b
On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:50:04 Mike Diehl wrote:
> So here is the question: Are these just growing pains, or is this the
> trend with Gentoo? If I resolve to update frequently, will these problems
> become more rare?
I've been using Gentoo for 4 years now, my main desktop is still running code
On Sunday 22 March 2009 08:39:20 Francesco Talamona wrote:
> On Saturday 21 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > It's correct, and it also highlights just what a PITA it is to
> > manipulate traditional disk partitions. With lvm, this becomes a
> > breeze. With ZFS (we might see it one day) this be
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:50:04 -0600, Mike Diehl wrote:
> However, lately, Gentoo seems to have been plagued with problems.
> Circular blockers. 32/64 bit libraries. Package re-organization.
> Others.
That's inevitable with a versionless distro like Gentoo. With the other
distros you have mention
On Saturday 21 March 2009 23:13:49 BRM wrote:
> So, unless you are looking to use LVM in a soft-RAID solution between
> multiple physical drives, not multiple partitions on the same drive, (e.g.
> partition A = sda1 + sda2, with mirror on sdb1+sdb2), then I would not
> suggest it as should anything
On Sunday 22 March 2009 08:36:31 Francesco Talamona wrote:
> > With or without LVM if you lose a drive then you've lost the data on
> > it. LVM does have the capability of assembling a partially damaged
> > volume group just not a partially damaged logical volume which, when
> > you think about it,
Hi,
you also have the chance of running emerge -DuavN system. That way you
can be sure that your system is stable without updating every program
you might only need once in a blue moon or you are allready seticfied with.
I would allways have an eye on the GLSA. You can do this in the forum,
with rs
Am Samstag, 21. März 2009 19:39:08 schrieb Jarry:
> I remember having lvm2 a few years ago, and despite of that I could not
> extend any partition, which was being used. What is then lvm2 good for,
> if I can not extend partitions on-the-fly? I can not unmount /usr before
> extending...
The files
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have a PDF document. One of documet's page is a (scalable)
> schematics. Printing the page via my A4 Kyocera isn't suitable - I
> can see a schematics with a lens only :-) Is there a way to split the
> page (into 2 or 4 parts) and ptint pa
Hi,
I'm not sure if the gtk+ update is relevant here but it was the only
thing I could find that was recently upgraded that may fit. It used to
be that if I was saving a file, picture or attachment in Seamonkey and
created a new folder, it would enter the new folder when I created it
without me h
Philip Webb schrieb am 22.03.2009 07:58:
> I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
> then decide which packages to update & emerge them individually.
> I also have a list of all the pkgs I have installed with dates + deps,
> which I keep upto-date by hand as I emerge items.
> I've never
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:04:03 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> I have a PDF document. One of documet's page is a (scalable)
> schematics. Printing the page via my A4 Kyocera isn't suitable - I can
> see a schematics with a lens only :-) Is there a way to split the page
> (into 2 or 4 parts) and ptin
Am Samstag, 21. März 2009 19:39:08 schrieb Jarry:
> And one more counter-argument: with traditional partitions I can select
> where a certain partition is (physically). Those partitions accessed
> frequently I put to the beginning of the disk with higher transfer-rate.
> In my case, it makes quite
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
I remember having lvm2 a few years ago, and despite of that I could not
extend any partition, which was being used. What is then lvm2 good for,
if I can not extend partitions on-the-fly? I can not unmount /usr before
extending...
The filesystem has to support resizing. A
[...]
> The point is that LVM adds an extra layer of complexity.
>
> I used LVM paired with soft RAID, and when I needed to boot from a
> liveCD I discovered that I had to rebuild the setup by hand.
You mean the 1 extra command that's needed to assemble a VG?
Daniel Pielmeier schrieb:
Marc Blumentritt schrieb am 21.03.2009 14:33:
Hi,
when I run emerge -p --depclen, I get these results:
[...]
These are the packages that would be unmerged:
x11-libs/qt
selected: 4.4.2
protected: none
omitted: 3.3.8b-r1
x11-libs/qt-assistant
select
090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>>> Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
>> I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
>> then decide which packages to update & emerge them individually.
> I hope you use --oneshot every time
> or your world
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600
Mike Diehl wrote:
> It seems that as
> long as I keep rebuilding machines from a current live CD, all is
> well. But if I try to upgrade anything else, I end up having to
> reformat. I've been using Gentoo long enough to have actually met
> Daniel Robbins in p
On Sunday 22 March 2009 12:59:15 Jarry wrote:
> Are you sure? man resize2fs says:
>
> "...The resize2fs program will resize ext2 or ext3 file systems.
> It can be used to enlarge or shrink an unmounted file system
> located on device. If the filesystem is mounted, it can be used
> to expand t
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:37:50 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> 090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > I hope you use --oneshot every time
> > or your world file will be a complete mess by now :(
>
> Yes, there's always someone who says that (grin).
I wouldn't want to disappoint you :)
> Of course, it's 2nd
On Sunday 22 March 2009 12:57:15 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:04:03 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > I have a PDF document. One of documet's page is a (scalable)
> > schematics. Printing the page via my A4 Kyocera isn't suitable - I can
> > see a schematics with a lens only :-) Is
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> [...]
>
> > The point is that LVM adds an extra layer of complexity.
> >
> > I used LVM paired with soft RAID, and when I needed to boot from a
> > liveCD I discovered that I had to rebuild the setup by hand.
>
> You mean the 1 extra command that's n
I was thinking about the proper way to set-up the autologin some time
ago.
Some hints which came to my mind :
1) should be started as a service so restart/start/stop may be used and
doesn't leave an open root shell
2) should be restarted with ctrl+alt+backspace without losing the
keyboard focus (ma
Am Sonntag, 22. März 2009 02:17:53 schrieb Mike Diehl:
> Ok now, I'm getting fed up with all of the breakage that I've seen in
> Gentoo in the last few months.
>
> I'm trying to upgrade MythTV. Emerge told me to upgrade my profile, which
> I did.
>
> Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
>
> But befo
This is just a testimony.
I remember I had similar problems (but probably they were my fault),
so I tried to replace gentoo using distros such as Suse or Ubuntu, but
when I wanted to customize some things it was terribly difficult. So I
returned to my previous love. The only difference is that thi
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 12:44 +0100, Peter Alfredsen wrote:
> I would say that if you do a complete world update at least every six
> months, followed by revdep-rebuild, keeping Gentoo up-to-date should
> be
> relatively painless, excluding all the blockers you have to resolve.
> ie.:
> emerge -uDNav
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 13:53 +0100, Francesco Talamona wrote:
> > You mean the 1 extra command that's needed to assemble a VG?
>
> It wasn't that easy, that's what I did in the end:
> 1) vgchange -a n
> 2) vgexport -a
> 3) vgimport -a
> 4) vgscan --mknodes
> 5) vgchange -a y
#5 is all I've ever ha
On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said:
> Hmm, that's odd. gtk+ does flag the fact that it includes gail with the
> block you are running into, and gail-1000 is used to make programs which
> depend on gail happy. emerge -uDN world should really just take care of
> this, as gail should be upgraded to gai
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:35:56 -0400
"Michael P. Soulier" wrote:
> On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said:
>
> Hmm. Is it possible that I don't have the latest portage?
>
> I have sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.7.
>
> emerge --pretend --update sys-apps/portage
>
> shows nothing so I guess I have the latest one.
Hi list!
I recently acquired a virtual server at hosteurope.de
However, I slowly loose my patience with the OpenSuse installation and
would like to have my fellow Gentoo on it.
I already found this guide:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/openvz-howto.xml
But it doesn't say much about how to ru
Hi,
I normally like to have the documentation built for all packages.
Therefore I have added 'doc' to /etc/make.conf USE
But I don't need documentation for the packages in kde-base/*
and kde-misc/*.
Since some of these take over an hour just for doxygen (on a Phenom II
3GHz) I'd like to disable
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
...
>
> How can I set the '-doc' use flags for all packages matching kde-base/*
> and kde-misc/* (There are hundreds of them!)
>
I don't know whether the /etc/portage/package.use file will accept this
syntax but maybe you can do something like
kde-base/* -doc
not
--- On Fri, 3/13/09, maxim wexler wrote:
> From: maxim wexler
> Subject: [gentoo-user] can't make rt2570 module
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Received: Friday, March 13, 2009, 2:32 PM
>
> Hi group,
>
> I found a bug report for this but that involved a problem
> with the kernel config
Florian Philipp wrote:
I recently acquired a virtual server at hosteurope.de
...
How do I have to configure the kernel?
Which sources can I use?
I'd say you do not need any sources, because as you wrote,
you have guest. openvz/virtuozzo uses one single kernel
running on host (similar as vserv
Jarry schrieb:
> Florian Philipp wrote:
>> I recently acquired a virtual server at hosteurope.de
>> ... How do I have to configure the kernel?
>> Which sources can I use?
>
> I'd say you do not need any sources, because as you wrote,
> you have guest. openvz/virtuozzo uses one single kernel
> runn
On Sunday 22 March 2009 18:57:16 Valmor de Almeida wrote:
> Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> ...
>
> > How can I set the '-doc' use flags for all packages matching kde-base/*
> > and kde-misc/* (There are hundreds of them!)
>
> I don't know whether the /etc/portage/package.use file will accept th
On Sunday 22 March 2009 17:35:56 Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said:
> > Hmm, that's odd. gtk+ does flag the fact that it includes gail with the
> > block you are running into, and gail-1000 is used to make programs which
> > depend on gail happy. emerge -uDN world should rea
Hi group,
Now that rt2570 module is installed I'd like to find out if there's a signal or
if the Ralink device even works.
iwconfig finds:
Link Quality=0/100 Signal level:-120 dBm Noise level:-93 dBm
This seems to say there is no signal. Right?
Here's kismet
heat...@kyzyl ~ $ kismet_clien
-Original Message-
From: Philip Webb [mailto:purs...@ca.inter.net]
Sent: March 22, 2009 7:38 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?
090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>>> Now I'm doing an emerge
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:43:29 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> I normally like to have the documentation built for all packages.
> Therefore I have added 'doc' to /etc/make.conf USE
Are you aware that the doc USE flag normally controls extra documentation,
such as API docs for devs? Normal do
Philip Webb wrote:
> 090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>>
Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
>>> I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
>>> then decide which packages to update & emerge them individually.
>
Philip Webb wrote:
> 090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>>
Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
>>> I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
>>> then decide which packages to update & emerge them individually.
>
Thanks for the albeit sad news!
Helmut.
--
Helmut Jarausch
Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:43:29 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>
>
>> I normally like to have the documentation built for all packages.
>> Therefore I have added 'doc' to /etc/make.conf USE
>>
>
> Are you aware that the doc USE flag normally controls extra documenta
Hi all, I was trying to install Gentoo 2008.0 in a Dell E4300 but the kernel
does not have support for the Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation
82567LM Gigabit Network Connection. Does anybody try to install Gentoo in
that notebook? or does anybody knows a better way to get gentoo working on
thi
On Sunday 22 March 2009 21:53:25 Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:43:29 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> >> I normally like to have the documentation built for all packages.
> >> Therefore I have added 'doc' to /etc/make.conf USE
> >
> > Are you aware that the doc
My current setup is:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda228953381 3911827+ 82 Linux
swap /Solaris
/dev/sda33382 24804 172080247+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda4
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Mike Diehl wrote:
> Ok now, I'm getting fed up with all of the breakage that I've seen in Gentoo
> in the last few months.
>
Understood and personally felt.
>
> emerge -C mktemp
>
Generally a *very* bad move unless you are *absolutely* sure that what
you are re
Hi,
Momesso Andrea a écrit :
My current setup is:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda228953381 3911827+ 82 Linux
swap /Solaris
/dev/sda33382 24804
On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:15:14 Momesso Andrea wrote:
> My current setup is:
>
>Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda228953381 3911827+ 82 Linux
>swap /Solaris
> /dev/
Am Sonntag, 22. März 2009 21:15:14 schrieb Momesso Andrea:
> P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because I
> might want to migrate my root (sda1) to ext4
Why do want to do that? ext4 is just a couple of months old and there's no
proof of stability whatsoever for it. Better t
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:23:38 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 2) emerge -DuN world building lots of packages that are already on the
> system but the LoG has apparently changed flags so emerge wants to
> rebuild them.
Don't use --newuse, use --reinstall changed-use.
--
Neil Bothwick
Most software
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:35:35 +0200
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:15:14 Momesso Andrea wrote:
> > My current setup is:
> >
> >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> > /dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
> > /dev/sda2
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:39:29 +0100
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 22. März 2009 21:15:14 schrieb Momesso Andrea:
> > P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because I
> > might want to migrate my root (sda1) to ext4
>
> Why do want to do that? ext4 is just a couple of mont
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:39:29 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because I
> > might want to migrate my root (sda1) to ext4
>
> Why do want to do that? ext4 is just a couple of months old and there's
> no proof of stability whatsoever for i
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 13:23 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Personally I think we're in one of those
> unfortunate periods of time where there is a relatively high number of
> issues. I'm seeing it on all my machines. It's taking far more of my
> time to deal with this than I wish it would.
>
> 1) ntp
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:49:36 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:39:29 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
>
> > > P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because
> > > I might want to migrate my root (sda1) to ext4
> >
> > Why do want to do that? ext4 is just a cou
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:35:35 +0200
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:15:14 Momesso Andrea wrote:
> > My current setup is:
> >
> >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> > /dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
> > /dev/sda2
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 21:58 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:49:36 +
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:39:29 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> >
> > > > P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because
> > > > I might want to migrate my ro
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:23:38 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> 2) emerge -DuN world building lots of packages that are already on the
>> system but the LoG has apparently changed flags so emerge wants to
>> rebuild them.
>
> Don't use --newuse,
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 13:23 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> Personally I think we're in one of those
>> unfortunate periods of time where there is a relatively high number of
>> issues. I'm seeing it on all my machines. It's taking far more of
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:02:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>Also, it seems that there's no shortcut for that command so instead
> of
>
> emerge -pvDuN @world
>
> if I understand then I might try
>
> emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
>
> ??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
Use an al
On 22 Mar 2009, at 22:07, Mark Knecht wrote:
...
1) ntp-update problems at boot time.
Hmm, I'm not having any ntp-update problems on my machines. Have
you
submitted a bug report or searched the bug database? Obviously this
isn't happening for everyone so if the right people don't know
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:02:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
>>Also, it seems that there's no shortcut for that command so instead
>> of
>>
>> emerge -pvDuN @world
>>
>> if I understand then I might try
>>
>> emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
>>
>> ??? Certainl
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
> >>
> >> ??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
> > Use an alias and it's less typing.
> Or add it to make.conf. I think that would work too.
It would work, every time you called emerge, whether you
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>
emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
>
>
>>> Use an alias and it's less typing.
>>>
>
>
>> Or add it to make.conf. I think that would
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 22:18 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >
> >
> emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
>
> ??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
>
> >
> >
> >>> Use an alias and it's less typi
I think we've got too far for it, the startx in local.start does have some
drawbacks, the system will become nonresponsive if I switch back to the
console, and the X seems running on VT2 instead of VT7, I studied the xdm
script and found I've missed lots of important steps, for stability, I tried
a
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