On Friday 26 December 2008, Grant wrote:
> I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
> firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
> effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
> what might cause that? It's tough to investigate bec
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Norberto Bensa wrote:
> Quoting Mark Kirkwood :
> > Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
> > feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
> > means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
>
> At work we abuse
On Saturday 27 December 2008 11:29:08 Mick wrote:
> On Friday 26 December 2008, Grant wrote:
> > I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
> > firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
> > effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone kn
On Saturday 27 December 2008 01:19:11 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
> Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
> feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
> means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
>
> Thanks for the help I have received over
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Saturday 27 December 2008 01:19:11 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
>
>> Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
>> feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
>> means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
>>
>> Thanks f
Dale wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Saturday 27 December 2008 01:19:11 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
Th
Hi Daniel,
> Try enabling or disabling "USB_SUSPEND" (Device Drivers->USB
> support->USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup) in your kernel.
It was already enabled.
> If that does not help, unloading the USB and wireless drivers before
> suspend should do the trick.
I added this line to /etc/hib
>> I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
>> firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
>> effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
>> what might cause that? It's tough to investigate because it doesn't
>> happen all the tim
>> > Check /var/lib/portage/world_sets
>>
>> That file doesn't exist on my system.
>
> Which version of portage are you using? Sets are a feature of the
> 2.2 branch, as is the separate @system and 'world.
OK, I'm using portage-2.1.4.5. It's the latest amd64.
- Grant
There are quite a few overlays that offer helpful ebuilds. kde-testing
for example is one of them. However, I don't use it (and others)
because I can't find a way of stopping the hordes of chaos that appear
when doing "emerge -u world". Is there really no way to somehow deal
with this? Righ
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:30:56 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> There are quite a few overlays that offer helpful ebuilds. kde-testing
> for example is one of them. However, I don't use it (and others)
> because I can't find a way of stopping the hordes of chaos that appear
> when doing "emerg
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:30:56 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
There are quite a few overlays that offer helpful ebuilds. kde-testing
for example is one of them. However, I don't use it (and others)
because I can't find a way of stopping the hordes of chaos that appear
wh
Dale gmail.com> writes:
> Watch him slowly convert them over to Gentoo. o_O Then he'll be back
> and asking who has a server like theirs. lol
Thats a FACT! Many workstation users never discover the joy
of running gentoo based servers. They are really easy to maintain.
If more folks ran gent
Grant gmail.com> writes:
> I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
> firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
> effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
> what might cause that? It's tough to investigate because it doesn
James wrote:
Dale gmail.com> writes:
Watch him slowly convert them over to Gentoo. o_O Then he'll be back
and asking who has a server like theirs. lol
Thats a FACT! Many workstation users never discover the joy
of running gentoo based servers. They are really easy to maintain.
If more f
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:53:22 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > What I do when I want only one or two packages from an overlay is to
> > add that overlay with layman, but do not add it to make.conf. Then I
> > symlink the package directories I do want from the layman overlay
> > into my local ove
On Saturday December 27 2008 15:14:26 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> I run Debian on my server because it's "set and forget". With Gentoo at
> home, I have to take good care of it to keep it going.
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just "set and
forget" your Gentoo boxes?
Norberto Bensa wrote:
On Saturday December 27 2008 15:14:26 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
I run Debian on my server because it's "set and forget". With Gentoo at
home, I have to take good care of it to keep it going.
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just "set and
forge
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Norberto Bensa wrote:
> > Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just "set and
> > forget" your Gentoo boxes?
>
> Gentoo is difficult to install.
Well, it's not really difficult - but it takes awfully longer than runni
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Grant wrote:
> >> I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
> >> firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
> >> effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
> >> what might cause that? It's tough to i
Mick wrote:
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Norberto Bensa wrote:
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just "set and
forget" your Gentoo boxes?
Gentoo is difficult to install.
Well, it's not really difficult - but it takes awfully longer than r
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
> On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
> skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
>
I have to use version 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 for my kernel or it does the same
thing. Someone mentioned that it is a setting in the
Gregory Shearman schrieb:
Marc Blumentritt wrote:
I have since 2 months a problem with my boot up splash. Splash is
working, but the init messages (like starting daemon foh ... [ok]) are
written an screen "above" (for lack of a better word) my splash. When
the messages reach the bottom of the s
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras :
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just
"set and forget" your Gentoo boxes?
Gentoo is difficult to install.
For who? And BTW, that doesn't answer the question.
Also, if it's left un-updated for
longer periods of time, it tends to break
Summary of request for help:
Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
sure.
Details:
I'm at a point where any pared down kernel config I've built and tried
has some terrible thing wrong with it. Usu
Dale wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
I have to use version 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 for my kernel or it does the same
thing. Someone mentioned that it is a settin
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras :
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
Just like me, but I have it set to default clock: 2.4GHz. Beyond that,
it gets somewhat funny :-/
Are you sure your HDs run
Norberto Bensa wrote:
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras :
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just "set
and forget" your Gentoo boxes?
Gentoo is difficult to install.
For who? And BTW, that doesn't answer the question.
Huh? I answered it right next in the next phrase.
Norberto Bensa wrote:
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras :
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
Just like me, but I have it set to default clock: 2.4GHz. Beyond that,
it gets somewhat funny :-/
I bo
Harry Putnam wrote:
Summary of request for help:
Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
sure.
Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make
menuconfig", disable everything you d
Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2008 15:11:34 schrieb Harry Putnam:
> Summary of request for help:
>
> Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
> a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
> sure.
What could help you here is a "make xconfig". It's s
Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2008 20:27:37 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
> Harry Putnam wrote:
> > Summary of request for help:
> >
> > Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
> > a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
> > sure.
>
> Well, my bit
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2008 20:27:37 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
Harry Putnam wrote:
Summary of request for help:
Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
sure.
Well, my b
Nikos Chantziaras writes:
[...]
>>> Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make
>>> menuconfig", disable everything you don't need, and compile
>>> everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module.
>>
>> I'd say the "disable everything you don't need" part is what Harry's
>>
Harry Putnam wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras writes:
[...]
Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make
menuconfig", disable everything you don't need, and compile
everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module.
I'd say the "disable everything you don't need" part is what Harry'
I would suggest to follow the Gentoo handbook first.
Leave all options you are not sure as default, using lspci to find out
more about your hardware specifications.
>From my experiences I will make sure that the kernel is bootable first
then adapt it to hardware later. Use modules or not is your ch
Nikos Chantziaras writes:
> Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Nikos Chantziaras writes:
>> [...]
>>
> Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make
> menuconfig", disable everything you don't need, and compile
> everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module.
I'd say th
Hung Dang wrote:
I would suggest to follow the Gentoo handbook first.
Leave all options you are not sure as default, using lspci to find out
more about your hardware specifications.
From my experiences I will make sure that the kernel is bootable first
then adapt it to hardware later. Use modules
back in the day, this was why i went gentoo in the first place. i
needed a better scheduler and compiling a new kernel off red hat for
instance almost always broke other stuff.
gentoo made my life easier.
On 12 28, 08, at 7:32 AM, kashani wrote:
I'll second what Hung said, getting your
Hi there,
long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had added the
line "sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24" (without quotes) to the file
/etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in
/var/lib/portage/world... This may be related to the fact i recently moved my
Simon wrote:
Hi there,
long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had
added the
line "sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24" (without quotes) to the file
/etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in
/var/lib/portage/world... This may be related to the fact i r
On Saturday 27 December 2008 10:48:19 am Harry Putnam wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras writes:
>
>
> [...]
>
> >>> Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make
> >>> menuconfig", disable everything you don't need, and compile
> >>> everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module.
> >
Simon wrote:
Hi there,
long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had
added the
line "sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24" (without quotes) to the file
/etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in
/var/lib/portage/world... This may be related to the fact i r
You may also want to try lspci -v. It shows you what modules the
hardware uses and it should be able to boot with those at least. Example:
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev
a3) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. Device 1c02
Fla
Harry Putnam wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras writes:
>
>
>> Harry Putnam wrote:
>>
>>> Nikos Chantziaras writes:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>> Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make
>> menuconfig", disable everything you don't need, and compile
>> everything you
Dale writes:
> You may also want to try lspci -v. It shows you what modules the
> hardware uses and it should be able to boot with those at least. Example:
Well son-of-a-gun... that is nice. Thanks
Don't shoot. I ask here because I know some here are debian users.
I just created an vmware app with debian... I thought I was using the
newest install media for latest release (lenny I think).
But once installed (and this was a network install not from disc) I
find really ancient tools.. a 2.6.
Debian's stable versions are somewhat, outdated. That explains the
kernel and emacs.
But, if you need to know the installed debian version, just $ cat
/etc/debian_version
If you need newer versions, use the testing/unstable repositories.
Other than that, this is not the list for such questions.
On
Harry Putnam wrote:
> Dale writes:
>
>
>> You may also want to try lspci -v. It shows you what modules the
>> hardware uses and it should be able to boot with those at least. Example:
>>
>
> Well son-of-a-gun... that is nice. Thanks
>
>
>
>
Yea, thanks to whoever mentioned it a whi
"Charles Welton" writes:
> Other than that, this is not the list for such questions.
Thanks... and right you are.
Harry Putnam wrote:
> "Charles Welton" writes:
>
>
>> Other than that, this is not the list for such questions.
>>
>
> Thanks... and right you are.
>
>
>
>
I have asked windoze questions here before. It's not the end of the
world. If I didn't get a rope and a tree for that, you shoul
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On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
set PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 in /etc/make.conf
>>>
>>> I'll just hay "ah, ah, ah" at that one :P OK, I'll also say that it
>>> doesn't work. Everything lags even with 19.
>>
>> Is that measurable?
>
> On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mous
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Simon wrote:
>> Hi there,
>> long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had
>> added the
>> line "sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24" (without quotes) to the file
>> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in
>> /var/lib/portage/worl
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Gentoo is difficult to install. Also, if it's left un-updated for
> longer periods of time, it tends to break on the next update. I guess
> that's the downside of being versionless. Debian on the other hand, due
> to it being versioned, doesn't have that problem.
When
From:
Richard Cox
To:
Roy Wright
Date:
Today 01:08:51
> > Gentoo is difficult to install.
A highly subjective statement to be sure. Many thousands have successfully
installed it...depends on your definition of 'difficult' I suppose.
>>Also, if it's left un-updated for
>> longer periods
You're welcome. Bye.
On Friday 26 December 2008 18:19:11 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
> Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
> feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
> means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
>
> Thanks for the help
On Saturday 27 December 2008 21:13:49 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Dale wrote:
> > Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
> >> skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
> >
> > I have to use version 2.6.23-gentoo-r
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