Re: [gentoo-user] using package.provided

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:36:59 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > package.provided is intended for use when you install something > > without portage - it's your way of telling portage the package is > > installed even though it's not in the database. > > What is that good for? Say I write my own app (l

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:16:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I can't believe you are advocating either of those solutions. It means > you retain 500M worth of tgz'ed portage tree for just in case an ebuild > leaves the tree. Any custom changes you make to the tree are wiped out > with the next --

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175964/focus=176095 Possibly, I'm still missing mails from Gentoo lists, although the problem seems less than previou

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean and DuN world loop

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:49:06 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: > "emerge --depclean" removes "perl-core/DB_File". > "emerge -DuN world" installs "perl-core/DB_File". Add --tree to the second command. -- Neil Bothwick There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation. signature.as

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 22 December 2006 11:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:16:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I can't believe you are advocating either of those solutions. It > > means you retain 500M worth of tgz'ed portage tree for just in case > > an ebuild leaves the tree. Any custom ch

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean and DuN world loop

2006-12-22 Thread Daniel Iliev
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:49:06 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: > > >> "emerge --depclean" removes "perl-core/DB_File". >> "emerge -DuN world" installs "perl-core/DB_File". >> > > Add --tree to the second command. > > > Here we go: emerge -DuN --tree world -pv These are

[gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi users, some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 since it became stable. However after this operation, as most of you know, /etc/hotplug/blacklist stops working. There have been reportings on this http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130766 but since now, no reliable solution have been found

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 22/12/06, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175964/focus=176095 Possibly, I'm still missing mails from Gen

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:35:58 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Except it's not 500MB, as you'll see by looking at the snapshots > > directory on any Gentoo mirror. Of course, the fact that portage > > trees for the last couple of weeks are nicely tarred up on all the > > Gentoo mirrors makes this pr

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean and DuN world loop

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:54:24 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: > Calculating world dependencies . . done! > [nomerge ] mail-client/squirrelmail-1.4.8 USE="crypt mysql nls > spell ssl vhosts -filter -ldap -postgres" > [binary N] perl-core/DB_File-1.814 This looks like http://bugs.ge

RE: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread
> -Original Message- > From: Marco Calviani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 December 2006 10:36 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting > > > Hi users, > some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 since it became stable. > However after

RE: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread
> -Original Message- > From: Marco Calviani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 December 2006 10:36 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting > > > Hi users, > some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 since it became stable. > However after

RE: [gentoo-user] Vmware player startup error message

2006-12-22 Thread
> -Original Message- > From: Kevin O'Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 December 2006 19:54 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] Vmware player startup error message > > > When I start vmware player, I always get this message: > /opt/vmware/player/lib/bin/v

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Nelson, Can you divert output to /dev/null? Or cron a job that chops out all those errors? Those are good ideas, but i'm questioning how is it possible to mark stable a so important package that has such "improvements" over the previous stable one, without good amplification of the changes

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 22 December 2006 11:40, Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 22/12/06, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > > > I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject: > > > > > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.

[gentoo-user] etc-update and /etc/portage/package.*

2006-12-22 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi, It's the first time that etc-update changes something in my /etc/portage dir. It has changed x11-themes/emerald-themes cause it has changed its category and removed ksudoku... I undestand first change, but not second one, so could someone explain what checks etc-update in that dir? many tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Jeff Rollin
It is a known problem, discussed in its own bug and on gentoo-dev. A lot of people (like me), don't get all the mails sent to gentoo-[user,dev,amd64...]. For some unknown reasons that mails are dropped and never delivered. And no, the spam filters are not part of the problem. -- OK, sorry. Jef

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 22 December 2006 12:36, Jeff Rollin wrote: > > It is a known problem, discussed in its own bug and on gentoo-dev. A lot > > of people (like me), don't get all the mails sent to > > gentoo-[user,dev,amd64...]. For some unknown reasons that mails are > > dropped and never delivered. And no,

Re: [gentoo-user] using package.provided

2006-12-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 22 December 2006 09:03, Alan McKinnon wrote: > package.provided is not there for that purpose. It's there for cases > when a package should be present but portage hasn't installed it (like > highly custom kernels) and you don't intend for portage to ever install > it either. But portage insists

Re: [gentoo-user] Misconfigured system

2006-12-22 Thread David Relson
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:45:07 -0800 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: ...[snip]... > Oops. I should have known I could answer my own question with a > little more digging. I now see that there's > hostname > hostname --fqdn > dnsdomainname > and they all work by looking in /etc/host.conf, and if

[gentoo-user] webapp-config update

2006-12-22 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi, after update squirrelmail using webapp-config, I saw this note: # webapp-config -U -h mail.emergetux.net squirrelmail 1.4.9a * Upgrading squirrelmail-1.4.8 to squirrelmail-1.4.9a * Installed by root on 2006-09-07 11:22:04 * Config files owned by 0:0 !cfgpro plugins/retrieveuserdata/conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Need help setting up HostAP and Intersil Prism card via PCMCIA adapter

2006-12-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:26:29 -0800 "Daevid Vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had this working for years, but some UDEV or something changed and > now my wlan0 is gone and I can't figure out how to get it working > again. Did you actually try what David answered to your last question r

Re: [gentoo-user] 10-local.rules and udev-103

2006-12-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:51:58 +0100 "Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and now i've changed it to be: > > SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi",KERNEL=="sd*",ATTR{vendor}=="FUJIFILM",ATTR{model} > =="USB-DRIVEUNIT",NAME=="%k",SYMLINK=="camera" read and understand "man udev": matching is not assignme

Re: [gentoo-user] webapp-config update

2006-12-22 Thread Naga
On Friday 22 December 2006 13:26, Arnau Bria wrote: > Hi, > > after update squirrelmail using webapp-config, I saw this note: [...] > * To complete your install, you need to run the following command(s): > ^^ > * CONFIG_PROTECT

Re: [gentoo-user] Mysql vs Mysql-community...

2006-12-22 Thread Thomas Rösner
kashani wrote: Jerry McBride wrote: Can someone tell me the major differences between mysql and mysql-community? Thank you, in advance... P.S. before you beat me up too badly, I've googled this one to death and not found anything that satisfies my curiousity. I've been trying to figure out

Re: [gentoo-user] 10-local.rules and udev-103

2006-12-22 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Hans, well, you're correct. The other thing i had to change to have it working is the ATTR --> ATTRS change. Best regards, mc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:36:07 +0100 "Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 since it became stable. > However after this operation, as most of you know, > /etc/hotplug/blacklist stops working. There have been reportings on > this http://bugs.ge

Re: [gentoo-user] webapp-config update

2006-12-22 Thread Arnau Bria
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:48:09 +0100 Naga Naga wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 13:26, Arnau Bria wrote: > > Hi, > > > > after update squirrelmail using webapp-config, I saw this note: > [...] > > But, what command does it refer to? > The following :) > > That is > CONFIG_PROTECT="/var/www/mail

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean and DuN world loop

2006-12-22 Thread Daniel Iliev
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:54:24 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: > > >> Calculating world dependencies . . done! >> [nomerge ] mail-client/squirrelmail-1.4.8 USE="crypt mysql nls >> spell ssl vhosts -filter -ldap -postgres" >> [binary N] perl-core/DB_File-1.814

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]:Evolution/OpenOffice spell checking not working

2006-12-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/21/06, Ric de France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark, There's some dictionaries you've got to include to allow for the spell check to work in OO.o... From memory, try: # emerge -DNuva aspell-en # emerge -DNuva hunspell I'm sure there's more to include, but I can't remember them. Don't fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Mark Knecht wrote: > if binary packages were built and stored in some reasonable > location then I could probably prune out things that I'm not > worried about, But then, one day, you'll see that you've pruned something you shouldn't have, something that one of the things you did keep needs as a

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Alan McKinnon wrote: > Any custom changes you make to > the tree are wiped out with the next --sync anyway, Who is talking about making custom changes? Who would make such changes to the main /usr/portage tree anyway? We're talking about a simple user here, no extras, no frills, no adaptations

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI frustration

2006-12-22 Thread fire-eyes
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:38, James wrote: > Hello, > > I've been trying to get 3D working on a amd64(pci-3e) mobo that has an ATI > 1900 video card: > TI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900 XT] Primary > > I first setup the radeon driver and it crawled with bzflag (the 3D software > I test

[gentoo-user] Default locale/charset changed after update?

2006-12-22 Thread Grant Edwards
Sometime in the past week or two, doing and emerge sync/update appears to have changed the default charset from iso-8859 to UTF8. There are still too many apps I use everyday that don't support UTF8, so this was a problem. Creating /etc/env.d/02locale and running env-update fixed the problem, b

Re: [gentoo-user] Reboots ok...but no Shutdown

2006-12-22 Thread Douglas Linford
This can be marked solved, thanks to DaleI recompiled my kernel to include Power Management with ACPI and my box now shutsdown normally. Douglas On 12/21/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) wrote: What filesystems do you have mounted usually? David *Note: The

Re: [gentoo-user] Default locale/charset changed after update?

2006-12-22 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Saturday, 23 December 2006 3:09, Grant Edwards wrote: > Sometime in the past week or two, doing and emerge sync/update > appears to have changed the default charset from iso-8859 to > UTF8. There are still too many apps I use everyday that don't > support UTF8, so this was a problem. > > Creati

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:45:40 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > > if binary packages were built and stored in some reasonable > > location then I could probably prune out things that I'm not > > worried about, They are stored wherever you tell portage to store them. > But then, one day, you'll

[gentoo-user] Re: using package.provided

2006-12-22 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You need to learn more about portage. Read: > > man portage > man 5 portage > man ebuild > man 5 ebuild Now I have a better idea how things are meant to work... but if I want to violate that... by that I mean ..not work on my own ebuild enough to begin

[gentoo-user] Makefile+wine problem

2006-12-22 Thread CapSel
I'm getting this kind of error with wine 0.9.25 and 0.9.27. On .25 it is on same directory, and on .27 on different. My friend _compiled_ wine with same USE flags, but he has pre 4.1 gcc. I can't find on google similar bug with wine, but there were same errors in other projects but soloved by re-u

[gentoo-user] Re: Default locale/charset changed after update?

2006-12-22 Thread Grant Edwards
>> Sometime in the past week or two, doing and emerge sync/update >> appears to have changed the default charset from iso-8859 to >> UTF8. There are still too many apps I use everyday that don't >> support UTF8, so this was a problem. >> >> Creating /etc/env.d/02locale and running env-update fixed

RE: [gentoo-user] Apple keyboards with Gentoo

2006-12-22 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Nelson, David \(ED, PAR&D\) wrote: > I may be preaching to the converted, but have you tried Ctrl-Alt-Fx keys > to try and get a console? Does the keyboard have any odd switches to > turn the F keys on? My logitech keyboard does - to switch between > hotkeys and Fx keys. Basi

[gentoo-user] Unicode fonts

2006-12-22 Thread A. Khattri
Does anyone know of a good all-round font to use for a unicode console? Ideally, I want to be able to display mostly European languages (though, if there is a font out there that can deal with Asian languages too, that would be great ;-) -- A -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Reboots ok...but no Shutdown

2006-12-22 Thread Dale
Douglas Linford wrote: > This can be marked solved, thanks to DaleI recompiled my kernel to > include Power Management with ACPI and my box now shutsdown normally. > > Douglas > > On 12/21/06, * Dale* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) wrot

Re: [gentoo-user] working with overlays

2006-12-22 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Neil Bothwick wrote: > Overlays are there specifically for people who need > something different from the standard portage tree. They are > hardly difficult to use, Not difficult, but it is clumsy: mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/category/package ## Dont't copy all ebuilds, just the one to be tweaked

Re: [gentoo-user] Unicode fonts

2006-12-22 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Friday 22 December 2006 19:40, A. Khattri wrote: > Does anyone know of a good all-round font to use for a unicode console? > Ideally, I want to be able to display mostly European languages (though, > if there is a font out there that can deal with Asian languages too, that > would be great ;-)

[gentoo-user] Re: ATI frustration

2006-12-22 Thread James
fire-eyes fire-eyes.org> writes: > > I've been trying to get 3D working on a amd64(pci-3e) mobo that has an ATI > > 1900 video card: > > TI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900 XT] Primary > Yep. This is a known problem and there have been bugs open on it for a while. > Not sure why it isn't f

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Hans, $ echo alias evbug off >> /etc/modules.d/my-aliases $ update-modules thanks this solution is working. Will this be the solution for the future or a "blacklist" file will be reintroduced? Cheers, mc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/22/06, Marco Calviani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: thanks this solution is working. Will this be the solution for the future or a "blacklist" file will be reintroduced? If you don't want udev to load any modules at all, you can set RC_COLDPLUG=no in /etc/conf.d/rc. [1] This should restore t

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux "jumped the Shark"?

2006-12-22 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 December 21 Thursday 10:35:47 AM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > Or is it about KDE4? KDE is the most advanced desktop I've used (that doesn't include vista's 'new' desktop). The desktop that ships with OSX may come close to KDE for features but it is styled to the point of annoyance both be

Re: [gentoo-user] working with overlays

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:09:55 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > > Overlays are there specifically for people who need > > something different from the standard portage tree. They are > > hardly difficult to use, > > Not difficult, but it is clumsy: > > mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/category/package

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: using package.provided

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:05:40 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All that said, what then would be the best way to let gentoo know I > have installed a very recent emacs and any dependancies gentoo may > need are available at /usr/local/share/emacs. > > I've been doing it by putting this in > /etc/

[gentoo-user] Kernel Config Manager

2006-12-22 Thread Trenton Adams
Hi guys, Does anyone know of a kernel config manager that manages the kernel configuration settings that I want? For instance, I want this network driver, and that driver, and the other driver. Want this to be managed outside the standard menu config because it will make it easier to switch to

[gentoo-user] desperation question: disklabel, unable to write to disk, etc.

2006-12-22 Thread Alan E. Davis
I apologize that this question is somewhat off topic, perhaps. I have found this to be a very helpful list, and in desperation I thought to turn here. After installing the Sabayon mini 3.2 x86 install on my laptop, the boot failed. Grub gave an error (Error number 15, If I recall correctly) and

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives

2006-12-22 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Whats going on...? > > No has slipped something deadly into portage or otherwise caused > upgrade world calamity. > > After about 1 mnth, I just did -uD world and had no problems during or > after the update. And revdep-rebuild also came up clean.

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux "jumped the Shark"?

2006-12-22 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 21:32, Jeff Rollin wrote: > Hi all > > A discussion on the staff blogs over at OSNews about the Linux desktop > got me thinking. Thom and Eugenia seem to think that "the linux > desktop peaked in 2001-2004", but I don't remember the hype around > Ubuntu starting till w

[gentoo-user] Error emerging Linphone; warnings being treated as errors

2006-12-22 Thread Nick White
Hi there, I installed Gentoo ala the most excellent Gentoo Handbook, and I extend a million thank yous. I'm having a lot of fun with it, and the whole venture is turning out to be very satisfying. I do have a little problem emerging linphone, however. It decides that it's appropriate to set some

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Config Manager

2006-12-22 Thread Dale
Trenton Adams wrote: > Hi guys, > > Does anyone know of a kernel config manager that manages the kernel > configuration settings that I want? For instance, I want this network > driver, and that driver, and the other driver. > > Want this to be managed outside the standard menu config because it >

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives

2006-12-22 Thread Dale
Daniel Barkalow wrote: > On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Whats going on...? >> >> No has slipped something deadly into portage or otherwise caused >> upgrade world calamity. >> >> After about 1 mnth, I just did -uD world and had no problems during or >> after the update. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux "jumped the Shark"?

2006-12-22 Thread Dale
Jerry McBride wrote: > > PURE Microsoft FUD... "They" are pulling out all the stops now, trying to > block the advancement of Linux in any areas they can. The fact is, they are > loosing big time, big money. > > Do a simple google safari for "ie 7" and "windows vista" and read the posts > from o

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel Config Manager

2006-12-22 Thread Harm Geerts
On Saturday 23 December 2006 02:07, Trenton Adams wrote: > Hi guys, > > Does anyone know of a kernel config manager that manages the kernel > configuration settings that I want? For instance, I want this network > driver, and that driver, and the other driver. > > Want this to be managed outside t

[gentoo-user] I'm not receiving this list anymore but I can send to it (according to gmane). Am I suspended?

2006-12-22 Thread Daevid Vincent
I had a power outage here in Seattle, WA since last Thursday. Server is finally online. I suspect the mail server suspended or unsubscribed me due to bounces because I've not received any for a few days, when normally there are plenty per day. However, how can I turn it back on? I tried to send