Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Ryan Viljoen
Is that better? And while we are on the matter what is top posting? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
My reply being on top of what you wrote. Some people like it on the bottom. I guess someone will be upset no matter which way you do it. I just like the top so that I don't have to scroll down. My mouse wheel leaves a little to be desired. Dale Ryan Viljoen wrote: >Is that better? And while

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Ryan Viljoen
Ok if he is getting anal about whether I reply on the top or on the bottom then tough luck. It makes more sense to me that it is on the top since: a) you dont need to scroll b) if you have been following the thread then you know whats been said already and if you cant remember you can scroll down t

Re: [gentoo-user] LTSP vs. Diskless Nodes

2005-10-30 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 30 October 2005 00:58, Ryan Viljoen wrote: > Thank you both Bob and Uwe that gives me something to think about. > > Uve I am from South Africa. Summer is going to be a scortcher I am fearing > December January. It's already bloody hot here. > > Back on topic, I am helping out my old High Schoo

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] giflib vs. libungif

2005-10-30 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 30 October 2005 00:53, Peter Ruskin wrote: > Correct, it was dirty. I've since found out that libungif can > coexist with giflib if you have "-gif" in your USE flags. I > finally settled with "gif" USE flag and: But that's dirty, too. Now you are telling all packages that might use gif not

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 30 October 2005 06:05, Glenn Enright wrote: > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:42, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > app-misc/secure-delete > > > > Description: Secure file/disk/swap/memory erasure utilities > > Just out of interest, I understand ext3 is pretty good at eliminating old > data during delet

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
I agree with your reasons but some of the others have reasons too.  I do like my reason better though.  LOL  I put LOL for those who read text only and not HTML.  LOL, again. I don't think anybody is getting anal about it.  I always look at it this way, if someone doesn't want to help me with

[gentoo-user] xfce and qt-themes

2005-10-30 Thread Peper
Hello, How can i easly manage qt-themes on xfce? qtconfig is not so nice ;] It will be the best if qt apps would have the same theme as i use in xfce. -- Best Regards, Peper -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Ted Kaczmarek
On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 03:31 -0600, Dale wrote: > I agree with your reasons but some of the others have reasons too. I > do like my reason better though. LOL I put LOL for those who read > text only and not HTML. LOL, again. > > I don't think anybody is getting anal about it. I always look at

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
I post mine on top so I assume that is top posting.  Correct?  Now you will see what I mean by mixing the two.   LOL Dale Ted Kaczmarek wrote: On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 03:31 -0600, Dale wrote: I agree with your reasons but some of the others have reasons too. I do like my reason b

Re: [gentoo-user] failed to load nvidia kernel module

2005-10-30 Thread renna bud
On Thursday 27 October 2005 22:12, Qian Qiao wrote: > On 10/27/05, Bob Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Qian Qiao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:20 PM > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] faile

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 10 help

2005-10-30 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 30 October 2005 05:42, Qiangning Hong wrote: > > Did you use mdadm to make the arrays? > > No, I create /etc/raidtab by hand and run mkraid for each md device, > following the steps of > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID You can ignore any howto that tells you

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
Ok, i top post, just for you, :)Imagine someone who wasn't following the thread need to do to pick up this thread:1. Scroll all the way to the bottom, read Ted's message.2. Scroll a bit upwards, to read you message 3. Then scroll all the way to the top, to read mine.I can hardly say it is *logical*

Re: [gentoo-user] The Root Block Device is unspecified or not detected - PCMCIA card CD Boot on Sony Vaio

2005-10-30 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:57:28 +1000 Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I installed Gentoo on a Pentium II 400 Vaio "Picturebook", the Sony > > with a 6" widescreen (1024 x 480??) but never had one of these CD-Roms > > available, only the floppy drive. In fact I cheated & resorted

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Ryan Viljoen
On 10/30/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, i top post, just for you, :) You can post how you like. Please dont change your ways on my accord. > > Imagine someone who wasn't following the thread need to do to pick up this > thread: > 1. Scroll all the way to the bottom, read Ted's mes

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Qian Qiao wrote: Ok, i top post, just for you, :) Imagine someone who wasn't following the thread need to do to pick up this thread: 1. Scroll all the way to the bottom, read Ted's message. 2. Scroll a bit upwards, to read you message 3. Then scroll all the way to the top, to read min

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Personally, If I think I'm helping someone, I don't care if they top or bottom post or post like you did below, middle posting I guess.  I certainly won't care if someone is helping me. The one thing that confuses me is keeping up with who is who.  I'm awful at names.  I have to work at it to

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Ryan Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/30/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can post how you like. Please dont change your ways on my accord. I was replying Dale's message, :) > Um did you not read my previous message? Obviously not, mate... I > agree with you o

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did see a forum once that lets you put the posts in reverse order, most > recent at the top. I would sort of like that. I'm on a very slow dial-up > and I can likely read the new post before the rest of the page can even load > up. That wasn't the

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Rob schrieb: > Is there a gentoo port that does this kind of stuff? dd if=/dev/zero of=file && rm file Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dale schrieb: > Those forensics folks sure are good though. I have heard they can get > it back even after you have wrote alternating 1's and 0's to the drive a > dozen times. Where have you heard that? I don't think they can do that. > I wonder how they do that? Me too. > > Dale > > P.S.

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, If I think I'm helping someone, I don't care if they top or > bottom post or post like you did below, middle posting I guess. I certainly > won't care if someone is helping me. If you were asking for help, you might as well ask for it nic

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dale schrieb: > My reply being on top of what you wrote. Yep. > Some people like it on the > bottom. Not really. Full quotes are - at least on mailinglist - very bad. It's easy to go back to the original post to see what's been written there. > I guess someone will be upset no matter which wa

Quoting Styles (was: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging)

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Ryan Viljoen schrieb: > Ok if he is getting anal about whether I reply on the top or on the > bottom then tough luck. It makes more sense to me that it is on the > top since: > a) you dont need to scroll You don't need to anyway. And if you're full quoting, you can as well quote NOTHING at all. Ma

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob schrieb: > > > Is there a gentoo port that does this kind of stuff? > > dd if=/dev/zero of=file && rm file I'm a noob on journaling file systems, won't the file be recovered if the journal is re-played? When we erase a file like that, d

Quoting styles (was: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging)

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Ted Kaczmarek schrieb: > Than why did you top post? More importantly: Why do you full quote? Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Quoting styles (was: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging)

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dale schrieb: > I agree with your reasons I don't. Totally wrong. In every aspect. > but some of the others have reasons too. I do > like my reason better though. LOL I put LOL for those who read text > only and not HTML. LOL, again. Don't send out HTML, please. Especially, if you don't mak

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Scroll to the bottom OK.  LOL Qian Qiao wrote: On 10/30/05, Ryan Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/30/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can post how you like. Please dont change your ways on my accord. I was replying Dale's message, :) Um di

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Qian Qiao wrote: On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I did see a forum once that lets you put the posts in reverse order, most recent at the top. I would sort of like that. I'm on a very slow dial-up and I can likely read the new post before the rest of the page can ev

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Scroll down, I'm bottom feeding now.  LOL Alexander Skwar wrote: Dale schrieb: Those forensics folks sure are good though. I have heard they can get it back even after you have wrote alternating 1's and 0's to the drive a dozen times. Where have you heard that? I don'

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 30 October 2005 04:17, Dale wrote: > Those forensics folks sure are good though.  I have heard they can get > it back even after you have wrote alternating 1's and 0's to the drive a > dozen times.  I wonder how they do that? Magnetic remnants. I don't imagine there would be a whole lot

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 30 October 2005 09:08, Uwe Thiem wrote: > With the right hardware, forensics are *far* beyond this. The NSA *crush* old hardware. You ever seen a car crushed? Complete car, engine, drive train, interior, wheels, everything, crushed into a cube less than a meter cubed. I'd use one of th

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel updates

2005-10-30 Thread Tim Kruse
* On 27.10.2005 Qian Qiao wrote: >> P.S. is there an easy way to confirm which kernel source (gentoo/vanilla) >> was originally installed? > > # cat /var/lib/portage/world> grep sys-kernel UUOC > The above command should give you the kernel(s) you've emerged. Normally the above command should

[gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Alexander Skwar wrote: Dale schrieb: I agree with your reasons I don't. Totally wrong. In every aspect. but some of the others have reasons too. I do like my reason better though. LOL I put LOL for those who read text only and not HTML. LOL, again.

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Qian Qiao wrote: > On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is trimming? Now I am middle posting. Deleting the bits that are out of context, to keep the message relatively smaller in size. Dial-up users benefit from trimming and not u

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > > Well, I'm trying to find out where to change it in Mozilla. I'm not > having any luck either. I know I saw it once but I left it like it > was. I don't change to many settings unless they are just something I > see here, desktop settings or something. > > I just joined this thin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel updates

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Tim Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * On 27.10.2005 Qian Qiao wrote: > > # cat /var/lib/portage/world> grep sys-kernel > > UUOC I stand corrected. grep sys-kernel < /var/lib/portage/world is a neater way. -- Joe -- There are 3 kinds of people in the world: Those who can count, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dale wrote: > > I found it. Is this better? I'm a bottom feeder, um poster. LOL I > even took out some of the clutter above. > Well done, :) Trimming could be extremely useful, when you see a thread with over 30 replies. -- Joe -- There are 3 k

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Qian Qiao wrote: > >Well done, :) > >Trimming could be extremely useful, when you see a thread with over 30 replies. > >-- Joe > > > Honestly, I like it all together in one place. That way you don't have to dig for it. I delete emails that are more than a week or so old. I do save the ones t

[gentoo-user] about c mail-list

2005-10-30 Thread 赵光
i want to get some good mail-list about c ,who can tell me, thx

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qian Qiao wrote: > Honestly, I like it all together in one place. That way you don't have > to dig for it. I delete emails that are more than a week or so old. I > do save the ones that have passwords to sites I have joined or something > but the re

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem emerging realplayer-10.0.6

2005-10-30 Thread Catalin Trifu
        Hi,     Download the file directly with the browser and put it in /usr/portage/distfiles Catalin Schleimer, Ben wrote: Hi, I'm trying to emerge realplayer-10.0.6 and it's not behaving properly: Emerge media-video/realplayer-10.0.6 started... Started emerge on: Oct 29, 2005 22:

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel updates

2005-10-30 Thread Tim Kruse
* On 30.10.2005 Qian Qiao wrote: >>> # cat /var/lib/portage/world> grep sys-kernel I have corrupted your command, but realized it too late, sorry. You originally have written: >>> # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep sys-kernel >> UUOC > > I stand corrected. grep sys-kernel < /var/lib/portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel updates

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Tim Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't need the less-than here. grep can work directly on the > file. > > % grep sys-kernel /var/lib/portage/world doh, :) > > So long, > tkr > > -- > You know you're using the computer too much when: > You try and use wget to pick up that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Qian Qiao wrote: On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You don't have to keep the messages, archive of this list can be found on the net. It can?  Oh.  I didn't know that. The setting is under mail and server settings by the way. Your sig confuses me. Three kin

[gentoo-user] ERROR: app-text/xmlto-0.0.18 failed.

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
OK.  I run into this a lot.  I have had it.  I'm about to try unmergeing this puppy and seeing what breaks.  This is what I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge xmlto Calculating dependencies ...done! >>> emerge (1 of 1) app-text/xmlto-0.0.18 to / >>> md5 files   ;-) xmlto-0.0.17.ebuild >>> md5 f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qian Qiao wrote: > It can? Oh. I didn't know that. www.gmane.org > Are you accusing me of having a sense of humor? LOL Maybe I'm the third > kind. < scratches head > Here's the answer: cos I can't count, :P -- Joe -- There are 3 kinds of peop

RE: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Nicholas Hockey
LOOK I'M TOP POSTING IN ALL CAPS, OMG YOU MIGHT DIE I don't know why ppl just want to bitch about top posting and HTML? Sure back when we were all on an old external hays 9600 it was irritating to download all that extra crap. But adding a few extra kb doesn’t mean much now, get over y

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
Owned, lmao. On 10/30/05, Nicholas Hockey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > LOOK I'M TOP POSTING IN ALL CAPS, OMG YOU MIGHT DIE > > I don't know why ppl just want to bitch about top posting and HTML? Sure > back when we were all on an old external hays 9600 it was irritating to > download all t

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Dale
Well, I'm on 26K dial-up which ain't a whole lot better.  You should see me downloading Open Office.  It takes three nights to get it all.  Oh, we don't have anything else where I live.  There is no cable modem or DSL here and likely won't be for a long time either I'm sorry to say. I top po

Re: [gentoo-user] arts crasheing: FIXED!

2005-10-30 Thread Holly Bostick
Schleimer, Ben schreef: > Hi again, I figured out that artsd was crashing because I was trying > to play a .ogg without having emerged kdemultimedia with the vorbis > USE flag set. Well, that makes sense. Congratulations! > > I added the USE flag, reemerged kdemultimedia (which wasn't > autoe

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get debug information if system crashs randomly?

2005-10-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:48:08 +0800 Qiangning Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | My CPU temperatur (reported | by /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature, I have no luck with | lmsensor setup) says 57C when idle, and can boost up to around 68C | when emerging big packages. Is it normal? There shou

[gentoo-user] Replacing Suse on my server.

2005-10-30 Thread Anthony Roy
Hi all, I am new to Gentoo, but having made a test install on one of my machines, so far I am impressed. The main reason for my interest in Gentoo was to replace Suse on my server, since it looked promising in the control I have over the installation. My question is this: I want to replace Suse

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Holly Bostick
Dale schreef: > >> Alexander Skwar wrote: >> >> Don't send out HTML, please. Especially, if you don't make use of >> HTML features, as it then only wastes bandwidth with nothing useful >> being added. > > Well, I'm trying to find out where to change it in Mozilla. Speaking of settings, mail c

Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing Suse on my server.

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Anthony Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Repartition hdb to add root, swap and boot partition of about 10GB > for root (what tools can I use in order to keep the data intact on hdb > whilst partitioning?) Some softwares like partition magic can do that, but they run under doze. I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dale schrieb: > Scroll down, I'm bottom feeding now. LOL What's so funny about you being unable to properly quote? Is it funny, because you make it hard to read what you wrote on purpose? > I saw that on one of those forensic shows. Those on TV? Those commercials turned into a report? > They

Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing Suse on my server.

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 16:06 +, Anthony Roy wrote: > Hi all, > > I am new to Gentoo, but having made a test install on one of my > machines, so far I am impressed. > > The main reason for my interest in Gentoo was to replace Suse on my > server, since it looked promising in the control I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dale schrieb: > Well, I'm trying to find out where to change it in Mozilla. Change "what" in Mozilla? There's nothing that you can change. You just read and insert your comments where appropriate and delete what's no longer relevant. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dale schrieb: > I found it. Found "what"? > Is this better? Better than what? Your previous way of top posting? No, it's not better. It's as bad. > I'm a bottom feeder, um poster. Bad. > LOL I > even took out some of the clutter above. THIS is good. But you should take out even more.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dale schrieb: > Qian Qiao wrote: >>Well done, :) >> >>Trimming could be extremely useful, when you see a thread with over 30 >>replies. > Honestly, I like it all together in one place. Me too. It's all in a folder containing all the mails. Further, there are archives on the web. > That way yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Nicholas Hockey schrieb: > LOOK I'M TOP POSTING IN ALL CAPS, OMG YOU MIGHT DIE > > I don't know why ppl just want to bitch about top posting and HTML? Sure > back when we were all on an old external hays 9600 it was irritating to > download all that extra crap. So it is nowadays. Where's the

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dale schrieb: > Qian Qiao wrote: >>Progress, :) Trimming will make it even clearer, and reader friendly. >> >> > > What is trimming? Get out a word book. You'll find the definition there. > Now I am middle posting. Bad as well. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mike Williams schrieb: > On Sunday 30 October 2005 04:17, Dale wrote: >> Those forensics folks sure are good though. I have heard they can get >> it back even after you have wrote alternating 1's and 0's to the drive a >> dozen times. I wonder how they do that? > > Magnetic remnants. Any RECENT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Holly Bostick
Alexander Skwar schreef: > Dale schrieb: > > >> Well, I'm trying to find out where to change it in Mozilla. > > > Change "what" in Mozilla? There's nothing that you can change. Oh for Pete's sake, Alexander. You can so change stuff in Mozilla-- it's a *software suite*, containing a web browser

Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing Suse on my server.

2005-10-30 Thread Anthony Roy
> You can boot from the suse, repartition the hdb, then chroot, and do > your gentoo installation. Excellent - so really I won't even need to have server downtime while installing? I'll definitely look into this approach. Cheers, -- Ant... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Antoine
I'm going to take a bath and soak a while. I have a skin disease and cool/cold weather makes it mad. :( Come and live in Bordeaux then! It was 24°C today... I knew there was a reason we moved here :-) Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] ncurses apps garbled in text console

2005-10-30 Thread Robert Persson
On October 29, 2005 06:31 pm Rodney Gordon II was like: > > For some reason my /etc/env.d/02locale was missing.  Creating a new one > > solved the problem. > > Out of curiosity, how did you create one? > I have the same issue, mine is missing for some reason.. Nothing fancy, Im afraid. I just did

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Qian Qiao schrieb: > On 10/30/05, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> dd if=/dev/zero of=file && rm file > > I'm a noob on journaling file systems, won't the file be recovered if > the journal is re-played? When we erase a file like that, don't we > have to figure out a way to erase the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Holly Bostick schrieb: > Alexander Skwar schreef: >> Dale schrieb: >>> Well, I'm trying to find out where to change it in Mozilla. >> >> Change "what" in Mozilla? There's nothing that you can change. > > Oh for Pete's sake, Alexander. You can so change stuff in Mozilla-- it's > a *software suite

Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing Suse on my server.

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Anthony Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can boot from the suse, repartition the hdb, then chroot, and do > > your gentoo installation. > > Excellent - so really I won't even need to have server downtime while > installing? I'll definitely look into this approach. You shouldn't

[gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Support in 2.6.13-r5 Kernel?

2005-10-30 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I am trying to upgrade from a 2.6.11 genkernel to 2.6.13-r5 genkernel. However when booting, I get a message about root not being a valid root device and then a prompt to enter the correct one. I'm a noob at this so don't assume I've done the obvious. :) I've searched Google and it appears

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qian Qiao schrieb: > > On 10/30/05, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> dd if=/dev/zero of=file && rm file > > > > I'm a noob on journaling file systems, won't the file be recovered if > > the journal is re-played? When we eras

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Qian Qiao schrieb: > Ah, I see. I was thinking that the journal is working in a similar > fashion as the transaction logs in DBMS, seems I'm quite wrong. :) Well, but how does it work in a DBMS? Does a transaction log there save you from a 'DELETE FROM table; COMMIT;'? I mean, I suppose you could

Re: [gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Support in 2.6.13-r5 Kernel?

2005-10-30 Thread Holly Bostick
Drew Tomlinson schreef: > I am trying to upgrade from a 2.6.11 genkernel to 2.6.13-r5 > genkernel. However when booting, I get a message about root not being > a valid root device and then a prompt to enter the correct one. > > it appears likely that my problem is that > Advansys SCSI support i

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Stroller
I've just tried `shred` on a file in a ResierFS partition and it certainly appears to work. `shred` is part of sys-apps/coreutils so there should already be a manpage on your system if you're interested in this utility. Stroller. On Oct 30, 2005, at 4:17 am, Dale wrote: It may also be of n

Re: [gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Support in 2.6.13-r5 Kernel?

2005-10-30 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 10/30/2005 9:33 AM Holly Bostick wrote: Drew Tomlinson schreef: I am trying to upgrade from a 2.6.11 genkernel to 2.6.13-r5 genkernel. However when booting, I get a message about root not being a valid root device and then a prompt to enter the correct one. it appears likely t

Re: [gentoo-user] The Root Block Device is unspecified or not detected - PCMCIA card CD Boot on Sony Vaio

2005-10-30 Thread Stroller
On Oct 30, 2005, at 11:18 am, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: I'm running Gentoo on my picturebook happily since about 2 or 3 years now. Just ask if there are more problems. I can give you a kernel patch for the neomagic frame buffer driver to have it support the 480px display height... I really lov

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qian Qiao schrieb: > > > Ah, I see. I was thinking that the journal is working in a similar > > fashion as the transaction logs in DBMS, seems I'm quite wrong. :) > > Well, but how does it work in a DBMS? Does a transaction > log there save

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Sunday 30 October 2005 17:26, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Oh, no doubt that they can recover from burned platters. > But have you ever seen, that they can recover overwritten > data? not seen, but read about it. They can recover overwritten data. > > I've only heard the opposite - that they CANN

[gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread John Dangler
I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to install a new kernel, I know that there are certain packages that will not come back, and need to be re-emerged on the new kernel. Is there a way to setup a list of these based on what I have installed on my current Gentoo kernel to ma

Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Holly Bostick
John Dangler schreef: > I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to install a new > kernel, I know that there are certain packages that will not come back, and > need to be re-emerged on the new kernel. Is there a way to setup a list of > these based on what I have installed on

RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread John Dangler
Holly~ Thanks for the reply. I found the package on portage, but couldn't locate any docs for how to use it... I'm googling for it atm, but if you can point me towards any docs on this I'd really appreciate it. I've been waiting for something like this for a while. Regards, JD -Original M

Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Holly Bostick
John Dangler schreef: > >> John Dangler schreef: > Holly Bostick schreef: > >> I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to >> install a new kernel, I know that there are certain packages that >> will not come back, Is there a way to setup a list of these based >> on what I have

RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread John Dangler
Holly~ Thanks for the reply. It seems fairly straightforward. From reading this, I would think that running module-rebuild populate would be the first task. Add/Del package would be for building discriminate versions of a kernel (presumably for locating problems or just testing out a kernel revi

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Qian Qiao schrieb: > On 10/30/05, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, but how does it work in a DBMS? Does a transaction >> log there save you from a 'DELETE FROM table; COMMIT;'? >> I mean, I suppose you could see - thanks to the transaction >> log - that a 'DELETE FROM table;' wa

Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Roy Wright
John Dangler wrote: Holly~ Thanks for the reply. It seems fairly straightforward. From reading this, I would think that running module-rebuild populate would be the first task. Add/Del package would be for building discriminate versions of a kernel (presumably for locating problems or just te

Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing Suse on my server.

2005-10-30 Thread Anthony Roy
Thanks for the prompt advice guys. I'll be taking it slowly - I aim to get the main installation and changeover done over Christmas when I have a little more time, and the preparation done prior to that so that I have the partitions ready to go. I'll let you know how it all went (probably be askin

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get debug information if system crashs randomly?

2005-10-30 Thread brullo nulla
Another source of random freezes can be the power supply. It happened with my Gentoo box about two months ago. It started to randomly freeze, then to suddenly shut down without notice every 3-6 hours. memtest86 was fine. A new power supply solved all issues. Check it if all other alternatives have

RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread John Dangler
hrmm... I recompile the new kernel, before rebooting, I run module-rebuild list... and get one entry - "=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4" So, I reboot the new kernel, and get no Ethernet, no wireless, no sound, nonvidia, and the vga mode is wrong. (the grub entry is an exact copy of the pre

[gentoo-user] Kernel error messages: gentoo-sources 2.6.13-r5

2005-10-30 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
When I boot I get several kinds of error messages.  My system runs okay, but I'd like confirmation or information that I do/don't need to fix something. 1) My 2-channel SCSI card (39160): should I worry about "unable to reserve" or "already in use"? PCI: Enabling device :03:01.0 (0116 -> 0117

[gentoo-user] BUG in glibc????

2005-10-30 Thread capsel
Hi all, I am writing some program... simple program and I've got some code: j=strcmp( "log", *(lines+i) ); printf( "ble\n" ); if( strcmp( "log", *(lines+i) ) == 0 ) { printf( "ble2\n" ); it is in for loop. "b

Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Roy Wright
John Dangler wrote: hrmm... I recompile the new kernel, before rebooting, I run module-rebuild list... and get one entry - "=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4" So, I reboot the new kernel, and get no Ethernet, no wireless, no sound, nonvidia, and the vga mode is wrong. (the grub entry is a

[gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Fish
Alexander Skwar wrote: Yep. That's why bullshit like this shouldn't be done. Quotes should be done in the way I do it. Not because I do it (that's no reason), but because that's the way it's been done for a long time and (more) importantly, because it's been proven to be good. And the proof i

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel error messages: gentoo-sources 2.6.13-r5

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Fish
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: 2) The init scripts complain that the system doesn't support DEVFS or UDEV, but a) I thought I *did* have UDEV; I remember a big deal about converting to it. b) at the moment, I can't remember how I got it, and don't see an option for it in the kernel con

[gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade

2005-10-30 Thread C. Beamer
Hi all, I just upgraded MySQL using the instructions on the Gentoo website. For the most part, everything went fine and now everything works, but I had to make a couple of adjustments. My question now is if there is a proper way to do what I did as a workaround. In September, when I wiped Fedor

Re: [gentoo-user] "wiping" unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Stroller wrote: > I've just tried `shred` on a file in a ResierFS partition and it > certainly appears to work. $ man shred >file $ ls -l file -rw-r--r-- 1 ben users 3685 Oct 31 00:11 file $ shred file $ ls -l file -rw-r--r-- 1 ben users 131072 Oct 31 00:11 file Hmm, would that mean that the "b

[gentoo-user] Serious pcmcia network issues

2005-10-30 Thread Peter Kelly
Hola, I've got this old laptop that I'm bringing back from the dead (attic) for a special project. It needs sound and network capability. As it's a 300MHz PII, and I'm running gentoo on the 3GHz home server, I thought the optimizations of gentoo might pay off. First, I did a stage 3 instal

Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing Suse on my server.

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, Anthony Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the prompt advice guys. > > I'll be taking it slowly - I aim to get the main installation and > changeover done over Christmas when I have a little more time, and the > preparation done prior to that so that I have the partitions read

Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, C. Beamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I just upgraded MySQL using the instructions on the Gentoo website. For > the most part, everything went fine and now everything works, but I had > to make a couple of adjustments. My question now is if there is a > proper way to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles

2005-10-30 Thread John Jolet
On Sunday 30 October 2005 16:30, Richard Fish wrote: > But since top-posters are too lazy to scroll to the end of a message, or > trim the original before replying, I'm guessing they will be too lazy to > follow the link and read the RFC. So I'll quote the relevant section here: Personally, I pref

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