Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-04-06 Thread Marc Joliet
(Hmm, weird, this failed to send and was laying around in my outbox.) Am Samstag, 21. März 2020, 16:29:48 CET schrieb David Haller: > Hello, > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020, Marc Joliet wrote: > >Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2020, 16:56:52 CET schrieb antlists: > [..] > > >> Can't remember where it was - some

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-04-01 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 05:13:52AM -0500, Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:43:58 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: >>> >> The SSD is currently reporting 98% of its rated life left: I feel >> quite confident it's going to outlast the laptop'

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-04-01 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 05:13:52AM -0500, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:43:58 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > > > The SSD is currently reporting 98% of its rated life left: I feel > quite confident it's going to outlast the laptop's useful life. > >>> What a

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-21 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sat, 21 Mar 2020, Marc Joliet wrote: >Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2020, 16:56:52 CET schrieb antlists: [..] >> Can't remember where it was - some mag ran a stress-test on a bunch of >> SSDs and they massively outlived their rated lives ... I think even the >> first to fail survived about 18mon

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-21 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2020, 16:56:52 CET schrieb antlists: > On 17/03/2020 05:59, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > currentlu I am setting up a new PC for my 12-years old one, > > which has reached the limits of its "computational power" :) > > > > SSDs are a common replacement for HDs nowad

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-18 Thread Dale
antlists wrote: > On 17/03/2020 11:54, madscientistatlarge wrote: >> The issue is not usually end of trusted life, but rather random >> failure.  I've barely managed to recover failed hard drives, That is >> less likely on SSD though possibly less likely to happen. > > The drive may be less likely

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-18 Thread antlists
On 17/03/2020 05:59, tu...@posteo.de wrote: Hi, currentlu I am setting up a new PC for my 12-years old one, which has reached the limits of its "computational power" :) SSDs are a common replacement for HDs nowaday -- but I still trust my HDs more than this "flashy" things...call me retro or ol

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-18 Thread antlists
On 17/03/2020 11:54, madscientistatlarge wrote: The issue is not usually end of trusted life, but rather random failure. I've barely managed to recover failed hard drives, That is less likely on SSD though possibly less likely to happen. The drive may be less likely to fail, but I'd say raid

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Dale
james wrote: > On 3/17/20 10:14 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:59 AM wrote: > >> Finally, ALL DRIVES FAIL.  It doesn't matter what the underlying >> storage technology is.  I've seen hard drives fail in less than a >> year, with the warranty replacement drive failing less tha

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On 18/3/20 7:25 am, james wrote: > On 3/17/20 10:14 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:59 AM wrote: > >> Finally, ALL DRIVES FAIL.  It doesn't matter what the underlying >> storage technology is.  I've seen hard drives fail in less than a I gave up trying to do fancy write min

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread james
On 3/17/20 10:14 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:59 AM wrote: Finally, ALL DRIVES FAIL. It doesn't matter what the underlying storage technology is. I've seen hard drives fail in less than a year, with the warranty replacement drive failing less than a year after that. I

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Tue, 17 Mar 2020, Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:43:58 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: >> >> The SSD is currently reporting 98% of its rated life left: I feel >> >> quite confident it's going to outlast the laptop's useful life. >> > What are you using to get that niformation?

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:59 AM wrote: > > The HD will contain the whole system including the complete root > filesustem. Updateing, installing via Gentoo tools will run using > the HD. If that process has ended, I will rsync the HD based root > fileystem to the SSD. > ... I'll go ahead and write

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread madscientistatlarge
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:18 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hm. My NVMe boot drive doesn't show a lifetime attribute, but my two 1TB SSDs > do, and they both show 100%, which makes me suspi

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 09:43:58 GMT Andrea Conti wrote: > On 17/03/20 10:03, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:35:10 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > >> The SSD is currently reporting 98% of its rated life left: I feel quite > >> confident it's going to outlast the laptop's useful life

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 08:35:10 GMT Andrea Conti wrote: > Hello, > > > SSDs are a common replacement for HDs nowaday -- but I still trust my > > HDs more than this "flashy" things...call me retro or oldschool, but > > it my current "Bauchgefühl" (gut feeling). > > The days of shitty JMicron st

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:43:58 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > The SSD is currently reporting 98% of its rated life left: I feel quite confident it's going to outlast the laptop's useful life. >>> What are you using to get that niformation? >> smartctl -A /dev/sdX >

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Petr Vaněk
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 09:15:58AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 09:04:55 GMT Petr Vaněk wrote: > > > I use tmpfs to reduce compilation writes [1]. > > > > tmpfs /var/tmp/portage/ > > tmpfs uid=portage,gid=portage,mode=0775,size=2G,noatime 0 0

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:43:58 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > >> The SSD is currently reporting 98% of its rated life left: I feel > >> quite confident it's going to outlast the laptop's useful life. > > What are you using to get that niformation? > > smartctl -A /dev/sdX 83% after five years of

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Andrea Conti
On 17/03/20 10:03, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:35:10 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: The SSD is currently reporting 98% of its rated life left: I feel quite confident it's going to outlast the laptop's useful life. What are you using to get that niformation? smartctl -A /dev/sdX

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 09:04:55 GMT Petr Vaněk wrote: > I use tmpfs to reduce compilation writes [1]. > > tmpfs /var/tmp/portage/ > tmpfs uid=portage,gid=portage,mode=0775,size=2G,noatime 0 0 > tmpfs /tmp/ tmpfs mode=0777,size=1G,noexec,

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Petr Vaněk
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 06:59:53AM +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > currentlu I am setting up a new PC for my 12-years old one, > which has reached the limits of its "computational power" :) > > SSDs are a common replacement for HDs nowaday -- but I still trust my > HDs more than this "fla

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:35:10 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > The SSD is currently reporting 98% of its rated life left: I feel quite > confident it's going to outlast the laptop's useful life. What are you using to get that niformation? > That's not a single datapoint; every system I have around

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-17 Thread Andrea Conti
Hello, SSDs are a common replacement for HDs nowaday -- but I still trust my HDs more than this "flashy" things...call me retro or oldschool, but it my current "Bauchgefühl" (gut feeling). The days of shitty JMicron stuff and OCZ drives dropping like flies are long gone... you are not going t

Re: [gentoo-user] SDD strategies...

2020-03-16 Thread Dale
tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > currentlu I am setting up a new PC for my 12-years old one, > which has reached the limits of its "computational power" :) > > SSDs are a common replacement for HDs nowaday -- but I still trust my > HDs more than this "flashy" things...call me retro or oldschool, bu