Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-11 Thread Jonathan
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:03:21 -0500 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > PS, why isn't there a "gzcat" command in Gentoo? It is "zcat" no g.

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:03:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > PS, why isn't there a "gzcat" command in Gentoo? Because it's called zcat. -- Neil Bothwick Marriage is a relationship in which one person is always right and the other is a husband signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:55:30PM +, Mick wrote > If you had not enabled framebuffer in your old kernel then I can't > think how it would show up as enabled in your new kernel (as far as I > know fb is not enabled by default on any kernels that I've ever built) I'm running textmode console

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 16:19:34 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2010-03-10 9:07 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > The current opinion of the current author of the kernel upgrade > > guide says what you quoted. > > > > It's his opinion, it's what he thinks will work best for the > > majority of people. It's p

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > No you're not. But it is far easier to miss important changes without > oldconfig to point them out to you by shoving them in your face. That's how I use it. I do oldconfig as a kind of "kernel config diff" and then follow it by menuconfig a

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 9:35 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:27:19 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: >> But... my understanding is that, by copying your old .config to the >> new kernel dir before running make menuconfig, you *are* reusing >> your old config... I sure hope I'm not reading *that* wron

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:09:25 +, Mick wrote: > Now, doing that for the first time may be too confusing for someone > who is not familiar with the process of rolling up their own kernel, > therefore the handbook has to cater for the lowest common denominator > and advises to go about it in a lon

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:27:19 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > I see what you mean about the guide and consider it wrong, especially > > for an advanced section. You are more likely to run into problems > > when not reusing your old config that when using make oldconfig. > > But... my understanding i

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 9:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Whatever the guide says, the third part of the kernel version is > considered the minor revision, anything after that is a patch level. Gotcha - and I guess I was using those terms in my own way - the guide didn't use the word major or minor - I just

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 9:07 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The current opinion of the current author of the kernel upgrade > guide says what you quoted. > > It's his opinion, it's what he thinks will work best for the > majority of people. It's probably also the wording that has been > proven to result in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 15:46:03 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2010-03-10 8:38 AM, Dale wrote: > > I use make oldconfig all the time and have only had problems with it > > once. I would trust make oldconfig looong before I would even think to > > trust genkernel. I have never got it to work for me. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:56:24 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > The .30, .31 is the minor kernel version. You shouldn't use oldconfig > > when going from 2.4 to 2.6 but from 2.6.m to 2.6.n is safe. > > Again, not according to the official upgrade guide - it specifically > uses 2.6.9-r1 to 2.6.9-r2 as

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Mick
On 10 March 2010 13:56, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2010-03-10 8:47 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:22:41 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: >> Today is when running a lilo menu with "production" and "experimental" kernels saved me.  "production" is 2.6.30-r8.  "experimental" is 2

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 15:22:41 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2010-03-09 8:36 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Today is when running a lilo menu with "production" and "experimental" > > kernels saved me. "production" is 2.6.30-r8. "experimental" is > > 2.6.31-r6 or 2.6.31-r10 (same problems with either one

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 8:47 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:22:41 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > >>> Today is when running a lilo menu with "production" and "experimental" >>> kernels saved me. "production" is 2.6.30-r8. "experimental" is >>> 2.6.31-r6 or 2.6.31-r10 (same problems with eithe

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Mick
On 10 March 2010 01:36, Walter Dnes wrote: >  Today is when running a lilo menu with "production" and "experimental" > kernels saved me.  "production" is 2.6.30-r8.  "experimental" is > 2.6.31-r6 or 2.6.31-r10 (same problems with either one).  I set > /usr/src/linux to point at 2.6.31-r6 (or 10),

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:22:41 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Today is when running a lilo menu with "production" and "experimental" > > kernels saved me. "production" is 2.6.30-r8. "experimental" is > > 2.6.31-r6 or 2.6.31-r10 (same problems with either one). I set > > /usr/src/linux to point at 2.

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 8:38 AM, Dale wrote: > I use make oldconfig all the time and have only had problems with it > once. I would trust make oldconfig looong before I would even think to > trust genkernel. I have never got it to work for me. > > Using make oldconfig should be fine for the OP. My point

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-03-09 8:36 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: Today is when running a lilo menu with "production" and "experimental" kernels saved me. "production" is 2.6.30-r8. "experimental" is 2.6.31-r6 or 2.6.31-r10 (same problems with either one). I set /usr/src/linux to point at 2.6.31

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-09 8:36 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Today is when running a lilo menu with "production" and "experimental" > kernels saved me. "production" is 2.6.30-r8. "experimental" is > 2.6.31-r6 or 2.6.31-r10 (same problems with either one). I set > /usr/src/linux to point at 2.6.31-r6 (or 10), cop

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Kaddeh
Walter, I'd advise going back through and running a "make menuconfig" on 2.6.31-r6/10 and verify that everything is in order. The reason that I say this is that, in the event that your kernel -DID- revert back to defaults, if you have a non-ext2/3 partition, it isn't going t recognize it (EXT4, Re