Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 21 January 2011 11:35:06 Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so, why are you d

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Volker Armin Hemmann [11-01-22 03:04]: > On Friday 21 January 2011 21:05:30 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:36]: > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's m

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:11 PM, wrote: >> > > Hi Mark, > > I got this (lspci -tv): > > -[:00]-+-00.0  ATI Technologies Inc RD890 Northbridge only single slot > PCI-e GFX Hydra part >           +-00.2  ATI Technologies Inc Device 5a23 >           +-02.0-[08]--+-00.0  nVidia Corporation Devi

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht [11-01-22 03:04]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > > > You could also dig into the internals of the libahci.c driver to figure > > out what all of those display items mean.  In this case, your seeing two > > different PCI busses with slightly different

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 21 January 2011 21:05:30 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:36]: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > > > > > >>I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my > > >> guess > > >> as to what you're seeing. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 21 January 2011 11:35:06 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: > >> On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> > so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the f

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: My notebook works like that too. Hard disk works fine when everything is set to AHCI, but then the system won't boot from CD. So I enabled the IDE driver and the IDE driver for CD-ROMs. My take on this is that Dell had a vast stock of cheap-skate CD-ROM hardware and used th

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:37 on Friday 21 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Last thing which remains is: Why does the help of the kernel says > > to both AHCI-settings: "If unsure, say N"... ? > > I just built a rig with a Gigabyte mobo. Mine has set

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:45 PM, wrote: > > Hi, > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID. Forget RAID > for a momen -- I dont use it (no

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM, wrote: > Hi Dale, > > *IDEA* > > Mark said, that the kernel alone is defining, whether to talk AHCI or > IDE to the harddisk and there is not a single result here from my > experiments, that makes me believe, that Mark is wrong with that... > Mark also said 'Do

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > You could also dig into the internals of the libahci.c driver to figure > out what all of those display items mean.  In this case, your seeing two > different PCI busses with slightly different capabilities; just off the > top of my head

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:45:07 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I did an experiment an disabled AHCI in the kernel (to make the kernel > settings consistent with the BIOS.) > > Result: The kernel did not find the root partition. > You disabled the driver for your hard disk controller and you

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Hi Mike, thank you for your explanations! :) But Mike Edenfield [11-01-21 21:48]: > On 1/21/2011 3:05 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > solfire:/root>dmesg | grep -i ahci > > ahci :00:11.0: version 3.0 > > *0* ahci :00:11.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 >

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Dale [11-01-21 21:44]: > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > >Last thing which remains is: Why does the help of the kernel says > >to both AHCI-settings: "If unsure, say N"... ? > > > > > > > > I just built a rig with a Gigabyte mobo. Mine has setting like yours. > I asked on here and was told

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/21/2011 3:30 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Mike Edenfield [11-01-21 21:28]: >> On 1/21/2011 2:48 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >> >>> My ASUS board offers: >>> RAID >>> IDE >>> AHCI >>> >>> The help to both kernel options mentioned above is saying (beside >>> other things): "If unsu

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > > hi Mike, > > I am talking about this two options: > > CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=y > # CONFIG_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM is not set > > Best regards, > mcc > > > >From Niko a few months ago: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/217204 Cheers, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/21/2011 3:05 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > solfire:/root>dmesg | grep -i ahci > ahci :00:11.0: version 3.0 > *0* ahci :00:11.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 > *1* ahci :00:11.0: irq 78 for MSI/MSI-X > *2* ahci :00:11.0: AHCI 0001.0200 32 slots 6 ports

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Last thing which remains is: Why does the help of the kernel says to both AHCI-settings: "If unsure, say N"... ? I just built a rig with a Gigabyte mobo. Mine has setting like yours. I asked on here and was told that AHCI is the "new way" to do things. So,

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Mike Edenfield [11-01-21 21:28]: > On 1/21/2011 2:48 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > My ASUS board offers: > > RAID > > IDE > > AHCI > > > > The help to both kernel options mentioned above is saying (beside > > other things): "If unsure, say N". > > Which kernel options are you speci

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wrote: > > > Last thing which remains is: Why does the help of the kernel says > to both AHCI-settings: "If unsure, say N"... ? > Because if you're not sure you have SATA then you don't need the driver? :-) It could just as easily say "Y" or "M" but they mostl

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/21/2011 2:48 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > My ASUS board offers: > RAID > IDE > AHCI > > The help to both kernel options mentioned above is saying (beside > other things): "If unsure, say N". Which kernel options are you specifically looking it? There isn't a single option that I

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 21:04]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > I thought (which implies "I dont know for sure"), that the BIOS do > > enable/disable certain features, the kernels reads that settings and > > act accordingly -- but definitely this is not true f

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 21:04]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > I thought (which implies "I dont know for sure"), that the BIOS do > > enable/disable certain features, the kernels reads that settings and > > act accordingly -- but definitely this is not true f

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:36]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > >> > >>    I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my guess > >> as to what you're seeing. > > > > you are confusing bios calls and bios programming chips as also - is > > t

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread kashani
On 1/21/2011 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first place? How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a banana to even out the

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I thought (which implies "I dont know for sure"), that the BIOS do > enable/disable certain features, the kernels reads that settings and > act accordingly -- but definitely this is not true for all settings. > Certainly true for some har

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:36]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > >> > >>    I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my guess > >> as to what you're seeing. > > > > you are confusing bios calls and bios programming chips as also - is > > t

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:16]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID.

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: >> On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first place? >> >> How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a b

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >>    I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my guess >> as to what you're seeing. > > you are confusing bios calls and bios programming chips as also - is there > any good reason to use IDE mode? Any? At all?

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: > On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first place? > > How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a banana to even out the > blood sugar, take a walk around the block, a

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 21 January 2011 11:08:39 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > > configure the SATA ports either for

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread kashani
On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first place? How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a banana to even out the blood sugar, take a walk around the block, and try this email again without being a complete ass?

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > > Hi, > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID. Forget RAID > for a momen -- I dont use it (no

Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question

2011-01-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 21 January 2011 19:45:07 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID. Forget RAID > for a momen -