Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-09 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > (snip) > > With wikipedia, everybody can go and edit what they want, when they want, > where they want. Agreed. But that's also a good thing about it. Anybody can *correct* what they want, when they want, where they want. Why do you think people will always try to

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-07 Thread wu chuanwen
2006/5/5, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > I've yet to see a gcc process that claims 100MB of > physical memory. Well, I haven't looked at memory usage, but when Qt or kdelibs is being compiled, the system gets quite slow and especially during linking quite some m

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/3/06, The Slash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Interesting... I'm still a little bit paranoid about adding this to make.conf, though. Can anybody think of a reason why I wouldn't want to add it? Um, yes, as I have said twice in this thread alreadyG_DISABLE_DEBUG DOESN"T DO ANYTHING -R

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-06 Thread The Slash
On Sunday April 30 2006 16:50, David Morgan wrote: > On 02:04 Mon 01 May , Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. > > > And it improves the speed of KDE applications too > > > > Read your earlier post.. Anyway where

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:15:03PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > make an emerge --newuse --ask world after you have finished. > > I'm not doing that again! Last time I tried that one night, > all day long, and it only did 38 of 283 packages or something. > It was *horrible.* > > Next

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Peter Kelly
On Friday 05 May 2006 17:36, Maurice E Johnson wrote: > OMG > Will this thread ever stop? > It's been high jacked 5 times. > Will the guy that asked the original question please > either grow a brain or use the one he has. So rest of us don't have to > create filters for this list? > > What does ge

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Peter Kelly
On Friday 05 May 2006 12:58, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > (snip) > > > > There are cases, where misonformation was not found for month, even > > longer - and there are a lot of very demanding and obscure articles, > > would you really bet, that every case of voluntary misi

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Maurice E Johnson
OMG Will this thread ever stop? It's been high jacked 5 times. Will the guy that asked the original question please either grow a brain or use the one he has. So rest of us don't have to create filters for this list? What does gentoo-wiki have to do with firefox in the hands of children? Tha

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 05 May 2006 13:55, "Walter Dnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?': > 2) You will *NOT* get bug-support here or in bugzilla.gentoo.org for > packages marked as ~arch That is absolutely untrue. I run ~

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 05 May 2006 19:58, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > (snip) > > > > There are cases, where misonformation was not found for month, even > > longer - and there are a lot of very demanding and obscure articles, > > would you really bet, that every case of voluntary misi

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:35:44PM -0700, Ryan Tandy wrote > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:27 pm, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > >> Gentoo ~x86 (or ~whatever) is roughly equivalant to a mix of Debian > >>"Testing" and "Unstable". A package may be ~ simply because it hasn't >

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > (snip) > > There are cases, where misonformation was not found for month, even longer - > and there are a lot of very demanding and obscure articles, would you really > bet, that every case of voluntary misinformation can and will be found? In that case you should

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 05 May 2006 19:49, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > On Friday 05 May 2006 16:20, Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> Farhan Ahmed wrote: > >> > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > >> > > >> > This is the first time I'm hearing this.. Even with -j2 my system > >> > functions no

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Friday 05 May 2006 16:20, Alexander Skwar wrote: Farhan Ahmed wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > This is the first time I'm hearing this.. Even with -j2 my system > functions normally.. Has anyone encountered same problem? Not me. I'm using -j2 on a singl

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: I've yet to see a gcc process that claims 100MB of physical memory. Well, I haven't looked at memory usage, but when Qt or kdelibs is being compiled, the system gets quite slow and especially during linking quite some memory is used. Alexander Skwar -- We are what w

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 05 May 2006 17:35, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > On Friday 05 May 2006 15:19, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > (snip) > > > > > PS: Your quote in previous message about gentoo-wiki is not true.. > > > Although I agree that the Flags I quoted were unstable, you cannot say >

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Friday 05 May 2006 15:19, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > (snip) > > > > PS: Your quote in previous message about gentoo-wiki is not true.. > > Although I agree that the Flags I quoted were unstable, you cannot say > > gentoo-wiki cannot be trusted just because it can be edi

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
This is an example: [ 1151.984763] oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x80d2, order=0 [ 1151.984767] Mem-info: [ 1151.984770] DMA per-cpu: [ 1151.984772] cpu 0 hot: low 2, high 6, batch 1 used:3 [ 1151.984775] cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 2, batch 1 used:1 [ 1151.984776] Normal per-cpu: [ 1151.984779] cpu 0 hot: low

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 05 May 2006 15:19, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > (snip) > > > > The difference is: with -j2 box is slow. A lot of packages do not compile > > because of ooms. > > > > with -j1 box is normal. No ooms. Compiling does not take longer as with > > -j2. > > This is the

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 05 May 2006 16:20, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > >> (snip) > >> > >> The difference is: with -j2 box is slow. A lot of packages do not > >> compile because of ooms. > >> > >> with -j1 box is normal. No ooms. Compiling does not take longer

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 05 May 2006 16:06, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 5 May 2006 18:49:29 +0530 Farhan Ahmed > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The difference is: with -j2 box is slow. A lot of packages do not > > > compile because of ooms. > > > > > > with -j1 box is normal. No ooms. Compiling

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Alexander Skwar
Farhan Ahmed wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: >> (snip) >> >> The difference is: with -j2 box is slow. A lot of packages do not compile >> because of ooms. >> >> with -j1 box is normal. No ooms. Compiling does not take longer as with -j2. > > This is the first time I'm hearing this.. Even

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Fri, 5 May 2006 18:49:29 +0530 Farhan Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The difference is: with -j2 box is slow. A lot of packages do not > > compile because of ooms. > > > > with -j1 box is normal. No ooms. Compiling does not take longer as > > with -j2. > > This is the first time I'

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Monday 01 May 2006 11:03 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Outlook and Outlook Express are the two worst mail clients in the > > > universe. > > [SNIP] > > > They're too slow > > > > Not really. > > You must no

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > (snip) > > The difference is: with -j2 box is slow. A lot of packages do not compile > because of ooms. > > with -j1 box is normal. No ooms. Compiling does not take longer as with -j2. This is the first time I'm hearing this.. Even with -j2 my system functions nor

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 05 May 2006 13:17, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > > > > > MAKEOPTS="" > > > > > > > > > > MAKEOPTS="-j2" > > > > > > > > -j1 is a good one for singlecore/single cpu computer, where the > > > > compiling is running in the background. > > > > > > No for singlecore/single cpu computer, -j2 i

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Friday 05 May 2006 12:42, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > > > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" > > > > > > no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell ot

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 05 May 2006 12:42, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" > > > > no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If > > you want to use it. Fine

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > > > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" > > > > no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If you > want to use it. Fine. But do not tell anybody else to do it. Accor

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-05 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Fri, 05 May 2006 08:22:29 +0200 Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Monday 01 May 2006 11:03 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > Outlook and Outlook Express are the two worst mail clients in the > >> > universe. > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 May 2006 06:05 am, Tero Grundström wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, wu chuanwen wrote: > Hi! Everybody! > I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In > my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck > and even

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 11:14 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sunday 30 April 2006 11:21 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: >> Kesara Rathnayake wrote: >> > I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we >> > used today. >> >> To fi

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 11:03 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Monday 01 May 2006 07:55 am, Justin Patrin wrote: >> On 4/30/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Kesara Rathnayake wrote: >> (I hate HTML mailand I hate Outlook even

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 10:57 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sunday 30 April 2006 05:59 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: >> wu chuanwen wrote: >> Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run "firefox >> -ProfileManager". > > This is something like

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 10:50 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sunday 30 April 2006 08:47 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: >> wu chuanwen wrote: >> > 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > that is (AFAIK) just a layer below TCP/IP. Wrong. Beside

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Ryan Tandy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:27 pm, Walter Dnes wrote: Gentoo ~x86 (or ~whatever) is roughly equivalant to a mix of Debian "Testing" and "Unstable". A package may be ~ simply because it hasn't been tested enough yet to certify as stable. Or it may be horribly broken

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 10:21:25PM -0700, Penguin Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED] squawked: > > Well, I recently switched to the binary version and to my surprise I > > found that it is much faster than the self compiled version. Especially > > the interface is much more responsive in the binary version.

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:27 pm, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:02:45PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote > > > > And I recommend that you do *not* set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 unless you > > > are prepared for the consequences. > > > > WHAT CONSEQUENCES!? > > > > I've asked on multipl

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Jamie
> > How did you "switch to a binary version?" How did you do that? I didn't > know > you could use emerge and not compile it. Unless, of course, you aren't > using > emerge... > emerge mozilla-firefox-bin will emerge the binary version of firefox -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Thursday 04 May 2006 04:42 am, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Monday 01 May 2006 11:51 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > > > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Monday 01 May 2006 10:57 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sunday 30 April 2006 05:59 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> wu chuanwen wrote: > >> > >> Not really. > > > > You most likely either have a faster machine > > Celeron M Notebook with 1.5 GHz. Not what I'd call fa

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Monday 01 May 2006 11:14 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sunday 30 April 2006 11:21 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> Kesara Rathnayake wrote: > >> > I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we > >> > used today. > >> > >> To find out, I aske

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 06:05 am, Tero Grundström wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, wu chuanwen wrote: > > Hi! Everybody! > > I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In > > my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck > > and even can not scroll up

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Monday 01 May 2006 11:03 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Monday 01 May 2006 07:55 am, Justin Patrin wrote: > >> On 4/30/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Kesara Rathnayake wrote: > >> (I hate HTML mailand I hate Outlook even more.) > > > > Out

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Monday 01 May 2006 10:50 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sunday 30 April 2006 08:47 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> wu chuanwen wrote: > >> > 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > that is (AFAIK) just a layer below TCP/IP. > > Wrong. Besides: "just a laye

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:02:45PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > And I recommend that you do *not* set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 unless you > > are prepared for the consequences. > > WHAT CONSEQUENCES!? > > I've asked on multiple occassions for a comparison to a Debian > paradigm. My first dist

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-04 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Monday 01 May 2006 11:51 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" > > > > no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 23:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?': > I've asked on multiple occassions for a comparison to a Debian paradigm. > My first distro was Debian. So a comparison to Debian would do me a > world of good.

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-03 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 09:34 am, Richard Fish wrote: > On 5/1/06, Farhan Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you wish to have latest packages, change ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86", it > > might make your system a bit unstable but going through my experience it > > has not broken a thing in my system.

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-03 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Monday 01 May 2006 11:51 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" > > no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If you > want to use it. Fine. But do not tell anybody e

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-02 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/1/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sunday 30 April 2006 01:11 pm, Jeff Rollin wrote: >> I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it >> improves the speed of KDE applications too > > So, can you please tell me how to

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-02 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/1/06, Farhan Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you wish to have latest packages, change ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86", it might make your system a bit unstable but going through my experience it has not broken a thing in my system. And I recommend that you do *not* set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 unle

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-02 Thread Tero Grundström
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, wu chuanwen wrote: Hi! Everybody! I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you think so? And how c

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" > no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If you want to use it. Fine. But do not tell anybody else to do it. > > MAKEOPTS="" > > MAKEOPTS="-j2" -j1 i

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Farhan Ahmed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (snip) > > So I went through all those different USE flags, and added ones I knew I > could > add without anything blowing up. This is what I get: > > # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically > built this stage > # Please consult /et

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 11:21 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: Kesara Rathnayake wrote: > I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we > used today. To find out, I asked OP to create a blank profile. I also assume a local problem at his side. OP shou

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 07:55 am, Justin Patrin wrote: On 4/30/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kesara Rathnayake wrote: > PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML > even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. It may "default" to

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 01:11 pm, Jeff Rollin wrote: I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too So, can you please tell me how to do this? Please read the manual. It explains how to set somet

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 05:59 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: Not really. You most likely either have a faster machine Celeron M Notebook with 1.5 GHz. Not what I'd call fast :) And 768M ram. or have already tweaked yours. No. Try a blank Firef

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
Graham Murray wrote: Nich Steicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: No, this is simply wrong - IPV6 is the next generation protocol we are currently using IPV4 - why IPV6 is a default build flag i would have no idea, as from what i can see, it will be a good while before IPV6 actually becomes impleme

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 08:47 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: > 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >: > > Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when > you run > > emerge -vpt mozilla

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 07:22 am, Jeff Rollin wrote: Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of Gentoo till I added USE="-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG" So, this is going to be a very elementary question, but it's honestly because I don't know. I have ma

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Graham Murray
Nich Steicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No, this is simply wrong - IPV6 is the next generation protocol we are > currently using IPV4 - why IPV6 is a default build flag i would have > no idea, as from what i can see, it will be a good while before IPV6 > actually becomes implemented. IPv6 is a

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Monday 01 May 2006 04:32 pm, Farhan Ahmed wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > (snip) > > > > > These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: > > > > > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > > > [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 [1.0.7-r4] -debug > > > +gnome > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Monday 01 May 2006 07:55 am, Justin Patrin wrote: > On 4/30/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kesara Rathnayake wrote: > > PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML > > even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. > > It may "default" to HTML now, as do Y

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Nich Steicke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 08:47 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when you run emerge -vpt mozilla-fi

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Farhan Ahmed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (snip) > > > These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: > > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > > [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 [1.0.7-r4] -debug +gnome > +ipv6 +java* -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznoxft -mozsvg +truetype -xinerama

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Sunday 30 April 2006 07:22 am, Jeff Rollin wrote: > Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of Gentoo > till I added USE="-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG" So, this is going to be a very elementary question, but it's honestly because I don't know. I have major problems with Firefox

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Sunday 30 April 2006 08:47 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: > wu chuanwen wrote: > > 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >: > > > > Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when > > you run > > > > emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox > >

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Sunday 30 April 2006 11:21 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Kesara Rathnayake wrote: > > I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we > > used today. > > To find out, I asked OP to create a blank profile. I also assume > a local problem at his side. OP should simply create

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Sunday 30 April 2006 05:59 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: > wu chuanwen wrote: > > Hi! Everybody! > > I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow? Yes. > Not really. You most likely either have a faster machine or have already tweaked yours. > > In > > my machine,if i op

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Sunday 30 April 2006 01:11 pm, Jeff Rollin wrote: > I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it > improves the speed of KDE applications too So, can you please tell me how to do this? I'd really appreciate it. > -

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-01 Thread Justin Patrin
On 4/30/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kesara Rathnayake wrote: PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. It may "default" to HTML now, as do Yahoo and Hotmail, but it's an easy thing to turn off. I'm still usi

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread wu chuanwen
2006/4/30, Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: wu chuanwen wrote: > 2006/4/30, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sunday, April 30 2006 22:52, wu chuanwen wrote: > > > http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=252747 > > > > I don't think it'd be much help posting a Chinese f

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Richard Fish
On 4/30/06, Farhan Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jeff Rollin wrote: > I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it > improves the speed of KDE applications too Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG' documented? I cant find any re

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread wu chuanwen
2006/5/1, Andrea Barisani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:35:18PM +, wu chuanwen wrote: > > > >Try using this: > > > >$ MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox > > > It seems better now, but i am not sure. > I will be very appreciated if you can tell me what the command means! > Thanks! >

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Andrea Barisani
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:35:18PM +, wu chuanwen wrote: > > > >Try using this: > > > >$ MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox > > > It seems better now, but i am not sure. > I will be very appreciated if you can tell me what the command means! > Thanks! > It disables pango library usage, there's a kn

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Jeff Rollin
Hmm,Unfortunately it's so long ago that I don't remember where I saw it. Anyway, works for me.Jeff.On 01/05/06, Ryan Tandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Farhan Ahmed wrote:> Jeff Rollin wrote:> >> I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it>> improves the speed of KDE a

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Ryan Tandy
Farhan Ahmed wrote: Jeff Rollin wrote: I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG' documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc.

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Ryan Tandy
Alexander Skwar wrote: Jeff Rollin wrote: Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of Gentoo till I added USE="-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG" What's that supposed to do? It doesn't seem to be a valid USE flag. I think he meant as CFLAGS, not as USE. In any case, it would only hav

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread David Morgan
On 02:04 Mon 01 May , Farhan Ahmed wrote: > Jeff Rollin wrote: > > I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it > > improves the speed of KDE applications too > > Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG' > documented? I cant find an

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Jeff Rollin wrote: > I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it > improves the speed of KDE applications too Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG' documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable results came up wh

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Jeff Rollin
whoops! my badOn 30/04/06, David Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 21:11 Sun 30 Apr , Jeff Rollin wrote:> I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it> improves the speed of KDE applications too"Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed o

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread David Morgan
On 21:11 Sun 30 Apr , Jeff Rollin wrote: > I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it > improves the speed of KDE applications too "Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of Gentoo till I added USE="-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG"" -- Join The no

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Benno Schulenberg
wu chuanwen wrote: > 2006/4/30, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sunday, April 30 2006 22:52, wu chuanwen wrote: > > > http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=252747 > > > > I don't think it'd be much help posting a Chinese forum thread > > in an English mailing list. > > I ju

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Jeff Rollin
I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too-- --Argument against Linux number 6,033: "...So this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus yourself, become

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Alexander Skwar wrote: > (snip) > > PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML > even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. > Another thing that sucks, is that HTML mails are permitted on this > list. Why not just dump the HTML part (and every other attachment)? > Well I

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Alexander Skwar wrote: > (snip)_ > > To the others: Is ipv6 still one of the default flags? Has > this bug still not been fixed? > > (snip) Well in default-linux/{alpha,amd64,arm,hppa,ia64,m68k,s390,sh,x86} profiles, its on by default.. I don know for sure that in hardened profile it's turned o

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Jeff Rollin wrote: > > DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them > smaller (and faster) > I dont think there is any use flags like DG_DISABLE_DEBUG.. As for as debugging symbols goes the use flag 'debug' control them i guess.. And as far as i know on x86 arch it -d

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
Kesara Rathnayake wrote: I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we used today. To find out, I asked OP to create a blank profile. I also assume a local problem at his side. OP should simply create a new profile and report back. Alexander Skwar PS: I begin to hate

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 4/30/06, Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander, > > DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them > smaller (and faster) Maybe as a CFLAG, but not a USE flag. And it will only affect gno

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread wu chuanwen
2006/4/30, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 4/30/06, Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander, > > DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them > smaller (and faster) Maybe as a CFLAG, but not a USE flag. And it will only affect gnome/glib/gtk applicat

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Kesara Rathnayake
On 4/30/06, Heiko Wundram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Sonntag 30 April 2006 14:24 schrieb wu chuanwen:> I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my> machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and> even can not scroll up and down.Many peple

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread wu chuanwen
2006/4/30, Heiko Wundram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Am Sonntag 30 April 2006 14:24 schrieb wu chuanwen: > I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my > machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and > even can not scroll up and down.Many peple ha

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
wu chuanwen wrote: Oh! I know now.I use gmail(i think it is the best e-mail now which can sort you e-mail by topic and looks very good!)and never see my mail from the mail-list in other application. Is this mail OK now ? Yes, that's *VERY* *MUCH* better now. Thanks a lot! Alexander Skwar -- I

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am Sonntag 30 April 2006 14:24 schrieb wu chuanwen: > I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my > machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and > even can not scroll up and down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you > think so? And how

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Richard Fish
On 4/30/06, Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexander, DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them smaller (and faster) Maybe as a CFLAG, but not a USE flag. And it will only affect gnome/glib/gtk applications. PS: As Alexander already said, please do not

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread wu chuanwen
2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: wu chuanwen wrote: > 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >: > Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when > you run > > emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox > > I get this: > [ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when you run emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox I get this: [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2 [1.5.0.1-r4] USE

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Philip Webb
060430 wu chuanwen wrote: > I think most of us are using firefox now. Do you think it's too slow? > if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox, > my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and down. I have this problem with Independent (newspaper), but not generally. I suspect it's caused by hea

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