Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Jeff
It brings me great joy to know that my original post has spawned such madness. :-) John Jolet wrote: >> I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a >> compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it >> would take longer to transfer the data versus if o

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread John Jolet
I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the connection was compressed. The reason, as I recall, had to do with compressing already co

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Alexander Skwar
Trenton Adams wrote: >> Not possible > on a windows machine. :P Wrong. Alexander Skwar -- printk(KERN_WARNING "Warning: defective CD-ROM (volume sequence number). Enabling \"cruft\" mount option.\n"); linux-2.2.16/fs/isofs/inode.c -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Tom Smith
Uwe Thiem wrote: >On 25 January 2006 06:46, Tom Smith wrote: > > > >>I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a >>compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it >>would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the >>connection was

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 25 January 2006 06:46, Tom Smith wrote: > I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a > compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it > would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the > connection was compressed. The reason, as

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
John Jolet wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > >> On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: >> >>> Jeff wrote: >>> Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 21:19 -0600, John Jolet wrote: > On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > There's another way. This assumes your originating server's CPU is > > slow/precious and you have a 16 way node on a backup server (HAHA!!) > > > > tar cf - /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.c

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > Hey guys. > > > > I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive > > to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure > > what the command would be. Something to the effect of:

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 08:55 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: > > Jeff wrote: > > > Hey guys. > > > > > > I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive > > > to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Eric Bliss
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 03:45 pm, John Jolet wrote: > > (now, if only I'd backed up yesterday, before I did an accidental > > `rm *` > > instead of `rm *~`) > > > good thing none of US has ever done that...as root from the / on > a running production serverin the middle of month-end

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the comma

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > Hey guys. > > > > I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive > > to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure > > what the command would be. [snip] > > > > So that, the

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
Ernst Herzberg wrote: >On Tuesday 24 January 2006 21:40, Jeff wrote: > > >>DUH ME! Open mouth, insert face... >> >>Ok, what I *meant* to say from post #1, is, the filesystem I'm >>tarballing is quite large - 25g. The tar command should be able to >>digest this, yes? Should I be worried? >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Trenton Adams
> Not possible on a windows machine. :P -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Ernst Herzberg
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 21:40, Jeff wrote: > DUH ME! Open mouth, insert face... > > Ok, what I *meant* to say from post #1, is, the filesystem I'm > tarballing is quite large - 25g. The tar command should be able to > digest this, yes? Should I be worried? Last week i back'ed up a machine with

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Jeff wrote: This example that Francesco illustrates seems to work pretty well. I guess my main concern was with tar - would it be able to handle a filesystem this large? Myself, I haven't seen or heard any scary stories thus far. Anyone shed light on tar limitati

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff
DUH ME! Open mouth, insert face... Ok, what I *meant* to say from post #1, is, the filesystem I'm tarballing is quite large - 25g. The tar command should be able to digest this, yes? Should I be worried? Thanks again all. Jeff wrote: > This example that Francesco illustrates seems to work pretty

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff
This example that Francesco illustrates seems to work pretty well. I guess my main concern was with tar - would it be able to handle a filesystem this large? Myself, I haven't seen or heard any scary stories thus far. Anyone shed light on tar limitations? Thanks for all the colorful replies. :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
Well, perhaps "old school" has different meanings to different people. :-) I was referring to the UNIX "tools" philosophy in which each program has a very specific use, similar to qmail (the original, unmodified qmail, that is). And this is usually the direction I take when looking for "tools"

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
John Jolet wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Tom Smith wrote: > >> John Jolet wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: >>> Jeff wrote: > Hey guys. > > I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard > drive > to store

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:20:10 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: > Not possible. Why, is he using Windows? "I don't know how" != "not possible". -- Neil Bothwick Voting Democrat or Republican is like choosing a cabin in the Titanic. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Tom Smith wrote: John Jolet wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what th

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff
Tom you big jerk. LOL! jk man... Well, I would call it, piping through a tunnel? Tunneling through a pipe? The concept seems very *nix-like to me. *shrug* Thanks to all... wish me luck! Tom Smith wrote: > John Jolet wrote: > > >>On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: >> >> >>>Jeff wro

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
John Jolet wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: > >> Jeff wrote: >> >>> Hey guys. >>> >>> I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard >>> drive >>> to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure >>> what the command would be. Some

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat /var/backup | s

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
> > Not possible. > > Wrong, we are unix sysadmins, the thing that more nearly resemble that is : "I've not time to do that" ;-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
Jeff wrote: > Hey guys. > > I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive > to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure > what the command would be. Something to the effect of: > > # cat /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.com 'tar data.info.gz' > >

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
Jeff wrote: >Hey guys. > >I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive >to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure >what the command would be. Something to the effect of: > ># cat /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.com 'tar data.info.gz' > >So t

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.c

[gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff
Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.com 'tar data.info.gz' So that, the data is actua