Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-03-17 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 17:11, Ward Poelmans wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:41, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server >> needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular tcp >> traffic. The client can then do

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-26 Thread daid kahl
On 26 February 2010 22:23, Ward Poelmans wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 18:50, daid kahl wrote: > >> As a simple idea, cron task starts rsnapshot configured however.  When >> this is done, backup is tarballed, and tarball is given as like, say, >> 440 permissions, where users are in some useful

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-26 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 18:50, daid kahl wrote: > As a simple idea, cron task starts rsnapshot configured however.  When > this is done, backup is tarballed, and tarball is given as like, say, > 440 permissions, where users are in some useful 'backup' group, then > while tarball can be read to be

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread daid kahl
On 26 February 2010 01:11, Ward Poelmans wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:41, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server >> needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular tcp >> traffic. The client can then do it's

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Grant
>> A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server >> needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular tcp >> traffic. The client can then do it's backup and rsync it over to the server >> when it's done, and that push can be done as a regular user o

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:41:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > And someone gets into your backup server, BANG! instant pwnage of every > single machine on your network. Heck, you don't even have to try and > compromise the local root account, you already have full unfettered > access to everything any

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:41, Alan McKinnon wrote: > A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server > needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular tcp > traffic. The client can then do it's backup and rsync it over to the server > when it's do

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:15:36 +0100, Ward Poelmans wrote: > > It looks interesting, and no program is that good that alternatives > > should never be considered, but I really like the way BaclupPC works. > > Everything is handled by the server, all you need to do on each > > client is copy the back

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 February 2010 17:15:36 Ward Poelmans wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 21:51, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > It looks interesting, and no program is that good that alternatives > > should never be considered, but I really like the way BaclupPC works. > > Everything is handled by the server

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 21:51, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > It looks interesting, and no program is that good that alternatives > should never be considered, but I really like the way BaclupPC works. > Everything is handled by the server, all you need to do on each client is > copy the backuppc user's

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:02:42 -0800, Grant wrote: > Has anyone tried backupninja? There is a new ebuild for it. > > https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/show/backupninja/ > > Is BackupPC too excellent to consider an alternative? I'm going to > set up one of these backup systems in the next few

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-24 Thread Grant
>> How is BackupPC to set up?  Is it a whole new world to explore, or can >> it be set up quickly and easily? > > It takes a little while to get the hang of how the config files work, but > once you get it it takes no work at all. Restoring is as simple as > selecting the files you want in a browse

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:05:27 -0800, Grant wrote: > How is BackupPC to set up? Is it a whole new world to explore, or can > it be set up quickly and easily? It takes a little while to get the hang of how the config files work, but once you get it it takes no work at all. Restoring is as simple as

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 08:03 -0800, Grant wrote: > Thank you for the clarification. Which are the "fancy expensive" hard > drives? The SAS drives that run at 15k RPM and cost $2-3 USD per GB. As opposed to your "run of the mill" 7200RPM SATA drive that costs pennies per GB.

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 19:19, Grant wrote: > BackupPC does look pretty good.  Would anyone recommend I *don't* can > this whole thing and set up BackupPC instead? I recommend you take a look at rsnapshot instead of pure rsync. Ward

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Grant
>> 2. Some of the files I back up only allow root to read.  I can run >> rsync as root on each system, but I don't allow root logins.  This >> means in order to rsync the second "sync" system with the first "sync" >> system, I must run the rsync command from the first "sync" system. >> This means I

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Grant
>> > 4. Should I be comfortable running the entire sync operation every >> > night, or am I jeopardizing the longevity of my HDs? >> > >> This is a joke. > > I should apologize and explain this better. > > If you bought a fancy expensive hard drive then it's probably designed > for extremely heavy

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Grant
>> 2. Some of the files I back up only allow root to read.  I can run >> rsync as root on each system, but I don't allow root logins.  This >> means in order to rsync the second "sync" system with the first "sync" >> system, I must run the rsync command from the first "sync" system. >> This means I

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:58 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: > > > > 4. Should I be comfortable running the entire sync operation every > > night, or am I jeopardizing the longevity of my HDs? > > > This is a joke. I should apologize and explain this better. If you bought a fancy expensive hard dri

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 08:44 -0800, Grant wrote: > I just finished an rsync backup system that works like this: > > Each of 4 Gentoo systems contains a folder called "backup" which > contains symlinks to local files and folders for backup. 2 of the > systems contain a folder called "sync" which co

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:44:44 -0800, Grant wrote: > 2. Some of the files I back up only allow root to read. I can run > rsync as root on each system, but I don't allow root logins. This > means in order to rsync the second "sync" system with the first "sync" > system, I must run the rsync command

[gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Grant
I just finished an rsync backup system that works like this: Each of 4 Gentoo systems contains a folder called "backup" which contains symlinks to local files and folders for backup. 2 of the systems contain a folder called "sync" which contains the contents of the "backup" folder for each of the