Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Frey
On 05/12/2014 08:04 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > There have been, however, plenty of > other candidates that I *almost* put in a kill file, but didn't, because no > one > has yet shown themselves to be simultaneously overly annoying and > unknowledgeable. > Is that a challenge? ;-) Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-12 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 12 May 2014 11:15:21 -0500 schrieb Dale : > Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Mon, 12 May 2014 15:39:41 +0100 > > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > > > >> On Monday 12 May 2014 16:08:00 Marc Joliet wrote: > >> > >>> [1] He used to be a regular in gentoo-amd64, when it was still > active; yes, > >>> you k

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-12 Thread Dale
Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Mon, 12 May 2014 15:39:41 +0100 > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > >> On Monday 12 May 2014 16:08:00 Marc Joliet wrote: >> >>> [1] He used to be a regular in gentoo-amd64, when it was still active; yes, >>> you know, the guy who wrote the longest emails ;) . >> >> ...and is the on

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-12 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 12 May 2014 15:39:41 +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey : > On Monday 12 May 2014 16:08:00 Marc Joliet wrote: > > > [1] He used to be a regular in gentoo-amd64, when it was still active; yes, > > you know, the guy who wrote the longest emails ;) . > > ...and is the only person ever to have fou

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 May 2014 16:08:00 Marc Joliet wrote: > [1] He used to be a regular in gentoo-amd64, when it was still active; yes, > you know, the guy who wrote the longest emails ;) . ...and is the only person ever to have found his way into my kill file. -- Regards Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-12 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sun, 11 May 2014 09:53:10 +0100 schrieb Mick : > On Saturday 10 May 2014 10:33:19 William Kenworthy wrote: > > Note that as I said in my original > > email, "dirvish" really hammers a file system and only reiserfs seems to > > withstand it though I have gotten errors with it in the past. Ive t

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-12 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.05.2014 18:17, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > "mount" does not show me the subvol-id or subvol-name of a mounted > btrfs-subvolume. > > Seems like a bug in util-linux to me, in other distros that seems to work. > > /proc/mounts and findmnt also don't display that info, does anyone know >

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 May 2014 18:17:40 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 11.05.2014 14:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > Am 10.05.2014 13:14, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Looking forward to more learning. > >> At first now a bit of weekend, afk. > > > > I also had ~180 GB free on one of my thinkp

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.05.2014 14:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 10.05.2014 13:14, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Looking forward to more learning. >> At first now a bit of weekend, afk. > > I also had ~180 GB free on one of my thinkpads so I also added a > btrfs-root there just for fun ;-) > > Had a

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/05/2014 14:29, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 11 May 2014 18:43:53 William Kenworthy wrote: > >> One reason I am moving from reiserfs is bitrot - I can see that reiserfs is >> losing favour. > > I'd been given that impression too, so a month or two ago I converted my few > reiserfs part

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 10.05.2014 13:14, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Looking forward to more learning. > At first now a bit of weekend, afk. I also had ~180 GB free on one of my thinkpads so I also added a btrfs-root there just for fun ;-) Had a bit of fiddling with the boot-options but now I successfully boote

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 May 2014 18:43:53 William Kenworthy wrote: > One reason I am moving from reiserfs is bitrot - I can see that reiserfs is > losing favour. I'd been given that impression too, so a month or two ago I converted my few reiserfs partitions to ext4. When I came to restoring the /usr/porta

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-11 Thread William Kenworthy
On 05/11/14 16:53, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 10 May 2014 10:33:19 William Kenworthy wrote: >> Note that as I said in my original >> email, "dirvish" really hammers a file system and only reiserfs seems to >> withstand it though I have gotten errors with it in the past. Ive tried >> ext4 (takes onl

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 10 May 2014 10:33:19 William Kenworthy wrote: > Note that as I said in my original > email, "dirvish" really hammers a file system and only reiserfs seems to > withstand it though I have gotten errors with it in the past. Ive tried > ext4 (takes only a couple of backup sessions and its

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-10 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.05.2014 21:59, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Aside from that I plugged a non-used older SSD into my SATA/USB-adapter > and put a btrfs-root onto it ... > > After some fiddling I currently run my system booted from that ;-) > > Yes, sure, slow because of the external SSD right now .. .jus

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-10 Thread William Kenworthy
On 05/08/14 19:57, William Kenworthy wrote: > On 05/07/14 07:51, Marc Joliet wrote: >> Am Wed, 07 May 2014 06:56:12 +0800 >> schrieb William Kenworthy : >> >>> On 05/06/14 18:18, Marc Joliet wrote: Hi all, I've become increasingly motivated to convert to btrfs. From what I've

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-09 Thread Marc Joliet
OK, I am in the middle of copying over my data from my backups to the freshly created btrfs file system :-) . Read more below. Am Wed, 7 May 2014 00:53:07 +0200 schrieb Marc Joliet : [...] > While I am unsure of my choice of RAID level (some comments on LWN.net claim > that the MD RAID 10 is more

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 08.05.2014 20:14, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 08.05.2014 13:57, schrieb William Kenworthy: > >> I have had had very poor luck with ext anything and would hesitate it to >> recommend it except for this very specific case where there is little >> alternative - reiserfs is far better on pla

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-08 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 08 May 2014 19:57:34 +0800 schrieb William Kenworthy : > On 05/07/14 07:51, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Wed, 07 May 2014 06:56:12 +0800 > > schrieb William Kenworthy : > > > >> On 05/06/14 18:18, Marc Joliet wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I've become increasingly motivated to convert to bt

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 08.05.2014 13:57, schrieb William Kenworthy: > I have had had very poor luck with ext anything and would hesitate it to > recommend it except for this very specific case where there is little > alternative - reiserfs is far better on platters for instance. I would be interested in your experie

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-08 Thread William Kenworthy
On 05/07/14 07:51, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Wed, 07 May 2014 06:56:12 +0800 > schrieb William Kenworthy : > >> On 05/06/14 18:18, Marc Joliet wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've become increasingly motivated to convert to btrfs. From what I've >>> seen, >>> it has become increasingly stable; enough so

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-07 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 7 May 2014 00:53:07 +0200 schrieb Marc Joliet : [...] > > This migration will occur in conjunction with a migration of / + /usr to a > > cheap SSD that I just bought (Crucial M500 120 GB). The overall plan is > > thus as > > follows: > > > > Replace > > > > /boot on /dev/md1 (EXT3,

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-06 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 07 May 2014 06:56:12 +0800 schrieb William Kenworthy : > On 05/06/14 18:18, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've become increasingly motivated to convert to btrfs. From what I've > > seen, > > it has become increasingly stable; enough so that it is apparently supposed > > to > >

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-06 Thread William Kenworthy
On 05/06/14 18:18, Marc Joliet wrote: > Hi all, > > I've become increasingly motivated to convert to btrfs. From what I've seen, > it has become increasingly stable; enough so that it is apparently supposed to > become the default FS on OpenSuse in 13.2. > > I am motivated by various reasons: ..

Re: [gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-06 Thread Marc Joliet
OK, I read several articles (the LWN.net series from December/January [5] and a January article from ars technica [6]) and quite a lot of comments on btrfs today and can answer some of my questions myself. For completions sake, I also read a zdnet article series (starting at [7]), but it wasn't qu

[gentoo-user] planned btrfs conversion: questions

2014-05-06 Thread Marc Joliet
Hi all, I've become increasingly motivated to convert to btrfs. From what I've seen, it has become increasingly stable; enough so that it is apparently supposed to become the default FS on OpenSuse in 13.2. I am motivated by various reasons: - The experience of insignificant data loss after a r