Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Travis Rousseau wrote: Ha I was told it would cost extra to get a computer without windows. (somethin like $80) Yes, *WHY* does it cost more without WindoZZZe? (Answer: Because MonopolSoft threatens vendors into doing this.) I suggest NOT buying from vendors that do this. If Linux ever reeally

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Travis Rousseau
On 4/12/05, Charles Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/12/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:26:39 -0400 > > Charles Pittman wrote: > > > > > > Do all Pentium M processors have integrated wireless? I guess that > would > > > explain the wireless on/o

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Byron Pezan
Nick Rout wrote: >On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:58:39 -0400 >Byron Pezan wrote: > > > > > >>FYI here is an lspci output from a Dell Centrino machine. The Broadcom >>entry at the bottom is the builtin wireless card, which incidentally >>only works with NDISWrapper. >> >> > >AFAIK the Centrino brand

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-13 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:58:39 -0400 Byron Pezan wrote: > > FYI here is an lspci output from a Dell Centrino machine. The Broadcom > entry at the bottom is the builtin wireless card, which incidentally > only works with NDISWrapper. AFAIK the Centrino branding requires Intel/PRO wireless stuff

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-13 Thread Byron Pezan
Charles Pittman wrote: > On 4/12/05, *Nick Rout* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:26:39 -0400 > Charles Pittman wrote: > > > > Do all Pentium M processors have integrated wireless? I guess > that would > > explain the wireless o

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-12 Thread Stroller
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:40 pm, Charles Pittman wrote: Do all Pentium M processors have integrated wireless? I guess that would explain the wireless on/off button on the left-had side of my laptop (which I can't use, because no program recognizes any of those hotkeys). ... It does. I can't rememb

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-12 Thread Charles Pittman
On 4/12/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:26:39 -0400Charles Pittman wrote:> > Do all Pentium M processors have integrated wireless? I guess that would> explain the wireless on/off button on the left-had side of my laptop (which > I can't use, because no program recogn

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-12 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:26:39 -0400 Charles Pittman wrote: > > Do all Pentium M processors have integrated wireless? I guess that would > explain the wireless on/off button on the left-had side of my laptop (which > I can't use, because no program recognizes any of those hotkeys). No pentium m

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-12 Thread Robert G. Hays
Richard Fish wrote: Ok, since nobody is actually bothering to _read_ article that I linked to, let me quote a small piece: Hey!! -- I Resent That! -- *I* read the article, and I use AMD's! And I read the whole thing, too, & *examined* the charts! (Just so you know it wasn't wasted ;) -- Have a nic

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-12 Thread Richard Fish
Ow Mun Heng wrote: >On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 22:05 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: > > >>Isn't that what the "-march=pentium-m" and "-mtune=pentium-m" flags are for in >>GCC 3.4? >> >> > >That's what it should be for. Friend of mine used 3.4 on a BSD machine >to compile apps using pentium-m and resu

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-12 Thread Charles Pittman
On Apr 12, 2005 12:09 AM, Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Jerry McBride wrote:> Because I KNOW it works on AMD mobile chips, first hand. I've never even> looked at Intel mobile processors Probably never will...Don't disregard the Pentium M so quickly. The Pentium4 is a _horrible_archite

Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)

2005-04-12 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 20:07 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: > Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > dir_index > > Use hashed b-trees to speed up lookups in large directories. > > > > Can you explain to me this feature? It's the first I've heard of it. > > I'm not an expert or guru, but I'll sure try. From wh

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-12 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 22:05 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: > Isn't that what the "-march=pentium-m" and "-mtune=pentium-m" flags are for in > GCC 3.4? That's what it should be for. Friend of mine used 3.4 on a BSD machine to compile apps using pentium-m and results were S-N-A-P-P-Y! :-) Doing a make

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-11 Thread Peter Gordon
Isn't that what the "-march=pentium-m" and "-mtune=pentium-m" flags are for in GCC 3.4? -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. --- Peter A. Gordon (codergeek42) E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Public

Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-11 Thread Richard Fish
Peter Gordon wrote: > Jerry McBride wrote: > >> Because I KNOW it works on AMD mobile chips, first hand. I've never >> even looked at Intel mobile processors Probably never will... > > > Don't disregard the Pentium M so quickly. The Pentium4 is a _horrible_ > architecture: Intel wanted a CPU t

Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-11 Thread Peter Gordon
Jerry McBride wrote: Because I KNOW it works on AMD mobile chips, first hand. I've never even looked at Intel mobile processors Probably never will... Don't disregard the Pentium M so quickly. The Pentium4 is a _horrible_ architecture: Intel wanted a CPU that could be clocked _very_ fast (I th

Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)]

2005-04-11 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 11 April 2005 11:00 pm, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 19:59 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: > > On Monday 11 April 2005 01:05 am, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > > On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 23:11 -0400, S. Bergeron wrote: > > > > On my MythTV machine, I run XFS, because I'm dealing with large

Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)

2005-04-11 Thread Peter Gordon
Ow Mun Heng wrote: dir_index Use hashed b-trees to speed up lookups in large directories. Can you explain to me this feature? It's the first I've heard of it. I'm not an expert or guru, but I'll sure try. From what I understand, the filesystem normally stores the block and inode information

Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)]

2005-04-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 19:59 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: > On Monday 11 April 2005 01:05 am, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 23:11 -0400, S. Bergeron wrote: > > > On my MythTV machine, I run XFS, because I'm dealing with large files > > > (2.2gb/hr of video). On my desktop it's ext3. O

Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)]

2005-04-11 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 11 April 2005 01:05 am, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 23:11 -0400, S. Bergeron wrote: > > On my MythTV machine, I run XFS, because I'm dealing with large files > > (2.2gb/hr of video). On my desktop it's ext3. On my notebook, I'm still > > using ext2 for power management rea

Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)

2005-04-10 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 19:39 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: > Try running `tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/` on your Ext2/Ext3 > partition(s) to enable this. You'll need to unmount the partition before doing > this (booting from a LiveCD if needed). To re-optimize a Ext2/Ext3 > filesystem's > directory stru

Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)]

2005-04-10 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 23:11 -0400, S. Bergeron wrote: > On my MythTV machine, I run XFS, because I'm dealing with large files > (2.2gb/hr of video). > On my desktop it's ext3. On my notebook, I'm still using ext2 for power > management > reasons (turning off hd with hdparm when running on bat

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-10 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 18:24 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: > W.Kenworthy wrote: > > 2. move to reiserfs to minimise it happening again (I got sick of losing > > data to ext3) - YMMV > > Woah. My experience has been the opposite. Ext3 has never given me problems > since My sentiments exactly. -- Ow

Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)

2005-04-10 Thread Peter Gordon
Eric S. Johansson wrote: Peter, since I point out things that are bad, I should also point out what I consider good and I consider your document wonderful. It's clear, compelling, and extremely useful. The next time I build a system, I will try your suggestions. [...] > thank you for taking t

Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)

2005-04-10 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Peter Gordon wrote: If you're further interested, I've posted a thread[1] in Gentoo's DT&T forum that has more information. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-305871.html Peter, since I point out things that are bad, I should also point out what I consider good and I consider your documen

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Denis
Problem solved, thank you. I used the LiveCD to boot and then fsck fixed everything quickly. I now have another problem - not sure where it came from but i'll post in another thread. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)

2005-04-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:11:54 -0400 "S. Bergeron " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I haven't found, however, a benchmark that tests things to my | satisfaction. For example, I'd like to see a benchmark where they | look at directories filled with lots of small files (think Maildir), | and also mounted

Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)

2005-04-09 Thread S. Bergeron
On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 07:39:31PM -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: > S. Bergeron wrote: > >YMMV, but I haven't had any problems with ext3 (other than speed issues) > > This is going-off topic, but speed issues? Are you sure you're using > directory > indexing? (This feature keeps the filesystem struct

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Stroller
On Apr 10, 2005, at 12:04 am, Denis wrote: I think `rc single` should do it. at the root prompt after the system has booted up? Yes. I think that should allow you to run fsck ok, but I haven't done this often. Surely some brighter minds than mine can comment if we interrupt their knome vs gde^w^w

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Robert G. Hays
Below... Peter Gordon wrote: W.Kenworthy wrote: 2. move to reiserfs to minimise it happening again (I got sick of losing data to ext3) - YMMV Woah. My experience has been the opposite. Ext3 has never given me problems since I started using it with RedHat 9/Fedora Core 1 almost two years ago. On

[OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)

2005-04-09 Thread Peter Gordon
S. Bergeron wrote: YMMV, but I haven't had any problems with ext3 (other than speed issues) This is going-off topic, but speed issues? Are you sure you're using directory indexing? (This feature keeps the filesystem structure in a hashed binary tree rather than series of linked-lists, which improv

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Dino Sims
Everyone's mileage will vary depeding on what you're doing with your system. :-) I've had problems with both but I like ReiserFS a little better and here's why... Image that you have a database server with 1-2 terabytes of disk. When I use ext3 when I fsck this I'm hosed, last time it took abo

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread S. Bergeron
On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 06:24:48PM -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: > W.Kenworthy wrote: > >2. move to reiserfs to minimise it happening again (I got sick of losing > >data to ext3) - YMMV > > Woah. My experience has been the opposite. Ext3 has never given me problems > since I started using it with Red

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Peter Gordon
W.Kenworthy wrote: 2. move to reiserfs to minimise it happening again (I got sick of losing data to ext3) - YMMV Woah. My experience has been the opposite. Ext3 has never given me problems since I started using it with RedHat 9/Fedora Core 1 almost two years ago. On the other hand, trying to instal

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread W.Kenworthy
1. use a live cd with the right tools (gentoo, knoppix) 2. move to reiserfs to minimise it happening again (I got sick of losing data to ext3) - YMMV Also, on systems with a large harddisk (or better, add a small harddisk especially for this to minimise exposure) I keep a second, small recovery pa

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi, boot with a boot/livecd and check the harddisk. Everything else is risky and or error prone. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Denis
> I think `rc single` should do it. at the root prompt after the system has booted up? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Stroller
On Apr 9, 2005, at 11:29 pm, Denis wrote: ... during the boot-up, after performing the file system checks, it says that my /usr partition (/dev/sda4) is corrupted and needs to be repaired by running fsck *manually* So I get a text prompt, I log into root, I try running fsck, but it says that t

[gentoo-user] file system corrupted

2005-04-09 Thread Denis
Here's the problem. My Gentoo 1.4 box (Intel P3, 1 GHz) has been up for around 240 days without a reboot, and finally I went ahead and rebooted yesterday, and during the boot-up, after performing the file system checks, it says that my /usr partition (/dev/sda4) is corrupted and needs to be repair