Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

I've recently moved from 1GB to 2GB of RAM, and have noticed a huge difference for my usage, though I do lean quite heavily on it so for most users it doesn't create much of a difference. While running with 1GB I generally found I was sitting around 70-80% utilisation, running a dual-head setup wi

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

Dan Farrell wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:35:22 -0700 > "Julian Simioni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On 7/9/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Agreed, of course, but one nice thing about extra ram that it might >>> be pertinent to mention is that it can be used to cach

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:35:22 -0700 "Julian Simioni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/9/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Agreed, of course, but one nice thing about extra ram that it might > > be pertinent to mention is that it can be used to cache and > > significantly reduce har

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

070709 Philip Webb wrote: > I'm planning to build a 3rd machine later this summer. Thanks for all the advice & suggestions, which I have recorded & will consider carefully before actually buying stuff in August. Any further thoughts from anyone wb added gratefully to the file. I suspect Gentoo use

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On 7/9/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Agreed, of course, but one nice thing about extra ram that it might be pertinent to mention is that it can be used to cache and significantly reduce hard drive I/O once the cache is primed. I just upgraded my system from 1GB to 2GB of DDR2 so

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:59:36 -0400 Ophidian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And yes, the 2GB RAM is probably > overkill since I've never actually taken it all that close to filling > up RAM let alone swapping to disk. Agreed, of course, but one nice thing about extra ram that it might be pertinent

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

Philip Webb wrote: 070709 Julian Simioni wrote: Since Core 2 Duos are so inexpensive and will easily outperform and use less power than an Athlon64, why stick with AMD ? My 4300, which I bought a few weeks ago for $ 110 , is the slowest Core 2 Duo, but would probably perform similarly if not ou

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 14:39 -0700, Patrick May wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:47:52PM +, b.n. wrote: > > Dan Farrell ha scritto: > > > > >> (b) Switch keyboard/mouse/monitor : KVM switch -- DLink > > >Do what you will, but my advice is -- save your money. KVM switches > > >are useless.

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:45:18 +0300 "Aleksey V. Kunitskiy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 10 July 2007 02:46, b.n. wrote: > > If you want to start with 1 Gb, buy a > > single 1 Gb stick, and not two 512 Mb ones -so when you will want to > > upgrade, you'll have less problems. > I think it'

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Tuesday 10 July 2007 02:46, b.n. wrote: > If you want to start with 1 Gb, buy a > single 1 Gb stick, and not two 512 Mb ones -so when you will want to > upgrade, you'll have less problems. I think it's not a good idea. Because AMD X2 has dual channel memory controller, and memory bandwidth will

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:47:52PM +, b.n. wrote: > Dan Farrell ha scritto: > > >> (b) Switch keyboard/mouse/monitor : KVM switch -- DLink > >Do what you will, but my advice is -- save your money. KVM switches > >are useless. Do you really want to pay US $50 (??) for something that > >you c

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

Dan Farrell ha scritto: (b) Switch keyboard/mouse/monitor : KVM switch -- DLink Do what you will, but my advice is -- save your money. KVM switches are useless. Do you really want to pay US $50 (??) for something that you can easily replace with X forwarding? OK, that's the last you'll her

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

In general, looks to be pretty good. 1GB of RAM will certainly be enough for Linux. Sure (I have 1 Gb and I never swap, even with more than a dozen of not-lightweight apps open and a full KDE desktop). However, if your machine has to last somehow long, the more RAM the better. You don't k

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 04:44:39 -0400 Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (e) HDD -- W Digital , 500 GB , 16 MB Do you really want a WD hard drive? Unless it's a Raptor, it's only got a 1-3 year warranty. Seagate drives are warranted for 5 years. According to newegg, comperable drives are the

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

070709 Julian Simioni wrote: > I have an 8500GT video card in my machine right now > and the 100.14.11 driver which is in portage works just fine. That's good to hear. > you wouldn't want to run Vista anyways right? No ... > Since Core 2 Duos are so inexpensive > and will easily outperform and

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On 7/9/07, Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Someone mentioned a quad-core: are they presently supported by Gentoo ? I can't see why they wouldn't be. Just make sure you enable SMP and up to 4 processors in your kernel. As for other parts... I have an 8500GT video card in my machine rig

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Monday 09 July 2007, Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo': > Someone mentioned a quad-core: are they presently supported by Gentoo ? Well, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that, but Gentoo loves my dua

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

070709 Dale wrote: > Sorry to butt in here, can you tell me about what this rig will cost ? > I need to do the same thing here. My AMD 2500+ is getting a bit old. Oh ! My present (2003) machine (working well) has that processor & the 2000 machine (to be replaced) has a Celeron 466 ... (smile).

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

Mark Shields wrote: > On 7/9/07, *Philip Webb* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > 070709 Mark Shields wrote: > > (1a): If this is just a backup machine, > > No, please re-read my careful description ! > The list is of parts I plan to buy for my new front-lin

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On 7/9/07, Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 070709 Mark Shields wrote: > (1a): If this is just a backup machine, No, please re-read my careful description ! The list is of parts I plan to buy for my new front-line machine. Once it's fully commissioned, my present machine will become the s

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

070709 Mark Shields wrote: > (1a): If this is just a backup machine, No, please re-read my careful description ! The list is of parts I plan to buy for my new front-line machine. Once it's fully commissioned, my present machine will become the stand-by. Thanks to both respondents so far. Further

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On 7/9/07, Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (1) 3rd Machine (a) CPU -- AMD 64 X2 4800+ (65 W) , 512 K , 65 nm , socket AM2 orAMD 64 X2 5600+ (89 W) , 1 M , 90 nm , socket AM2 (b) Mobo -- Asus M2N-E Nforce 570 , DDR2 533/667/800 (c) Memory -- Kingston , 1 GB , 800 (d

Re: [gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

On Monday 09 July 2007 11:44, Philip Webb wrote: > (1a) I'm confused by the CPU features '65 nm' & '90 nm': > yes, I know they refer to tiny distances, > but would expect the faster CPU to have the smaller distance, > whereas the opposite is true for those listed (AMD docs don't mention Techn

[gentoo-user] building a machine for Gentoo

I have run Gentoo since I built my 2nd machine in Oct 2003 . The 1st box (2000) is set up for emergency use (Mandriva 2005) & is becoming too old & slow for today's Internet & software in general. As a result, I'm planning to build a 3rd machine later this summer. The 2nd will become my emergency a