Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Qi Baobin
I think it's bidirections. Becourse I got 'A blocks B' one, when both of them weren't installed.(I was installing C,and I don't know why C depends on both A and B). On 14:55 Thu 10 Apr , Uwe Thiem wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08,

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:15:20 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: > > Because of the nature of a block, only one of the named packages can > > be installed, so just unmerge that one, wherever it appears in the > > block message :) > Is that always true? Everything is always true, except for generalisat

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Graham Murray
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because of the nature of a block, only one of the named packages can be > installed, so just unmerge that one, wherever it appears in the block > message :) Is that always true? I seem to remember seeing cases where an upgrade of X wanted to install A a

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 10 April 2008 13:48:12 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > In any event, when portage says "A blocks B" your options and always > > only: > > > > - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later > > - do not use A > > I have always res

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 10 April 2008 13:08:14 Alan McKinnon wrote: > "blocks" is 6 letters. A semantically correct phrase is longer and takes > up heaps of line length. The emerge dev apparently favours brevity and > complete data over absolute descriptive correctness. We're not dealing here with fine detai

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:10:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I usually find that I need to look in the ebuilds anyway to see what is > going on and get enough info to make a decision, at which point I'm not > looking at emerge's output anymore :-) Because of the nature of a block, only one of the

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > In any event, when portage says "A blocks B" your options and > > always only: > > > > - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later > > - do not use A > > I have always resolved "A

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: > In any event, when portage says "A blocks B" your options and always > only: > > - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later > - do not use A I have always resolved "A blocks B" problems by unmerging A. After that, portage was n

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote: > It appears this human is a bit dense.  I !think! I get it but not > real sure.  May have to read that a few more times.  Sounds like the > clue is the missing U and D part. man emerge, the --pretend option has some useful info. I usually find that I need t

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > If the word in emerge output was "block", meaning generically "there > is a block, an incompatibility" you would be correct. But that word > is "blocks", 3rd person singular, implying a subject and an object, > ie something blocks something else. Or

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 12:56, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > This is not sensible. If Uwe says "A blocks B", it means that A is > > getting in the way of B, not the other way around. > > No, that's incorrect. I think you are attaching an incorrect meaning > to the output wording. > > In this case, A

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells m

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2008 08:30:21 Iain Buchanan wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > Emerge clearly said that gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the > > > other way round. > > > > gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc. Sinc

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 10 April 2008 08:30:21 Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > Emerge clearly said that gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the other way > > round. > > gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc. Since you already have gtk-doc > installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't g

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 09:57, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > Often with a blocker, you don't have the blockee already installed. > > ie. blocker-pkg blocks blockee-pkg, and both are required by other > > ebuilds... > > I must be extraordinarily dense these days. I don't get it. How can a > non-installe

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> emerge --update world tells me: > >> [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking > >> dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) > >> > >> emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote: > gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc. Since you already have gtk-doc > installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't go ahead. > > Often with a blocker, you don't have the blockee already installed. > ie. blocker-pkg blocks blockee-pkg, and both are required by othe

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific:

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's > > blocking the one you have installed. You need to uninstall > > gtk-doc, and then you can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > Hi folks, > > emerge --update world tells me: > [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking > dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) > > emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: > --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. > > So let's be more specific: > emerge -

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote: > I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's > blocking the one you have installed. You need to uninstall > gtk-doc, and then you can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-doc-am. It works. Thanks! But I don't understand why. Emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread tecnic5
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:51 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote: > > Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > emerge --update world tells me: > > > [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking > > > dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) > > > > > > emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-09 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:51 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote: > > Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > emerge --update world tells me: > > > [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking > > > dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) > > > > > > emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote: > Uwe Thiem wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > emerge --update world tells me: > > [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking > > dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) > > > > emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: > > --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. > > > > So

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-09 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific: emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me

[gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific: emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me: --- Couldn't find