Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 27 January 2007 09:58, Jan Stępień wrote: > Is it possible to enable some kind of a chooser which would allow me > to choose whether I'd like to launch Xgl or Xorg? While working on my > /usr/share/gdm/default.conf I've spotted a server called 'chooser'. > Could you tell me what is thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-28 Thread Martins
You may choose to start X or Xgl generic way using startx or startxgl scripts. Out there are some. m -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Albert Hopkins napisał(a): > Then you probably don't want to use GDM or any other DM as they are > primarily designed to "manage" displays that are already selected. What > you want is more of a chicken-and-egg issue for a display manager. > > What you likely need is something to be run from the

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Jan, on Saturday, 2007-01-27 at 15:06:32, you wrote: > I've begun this thread because of my difficulties with running some > OpenGL applications, e.g. Americas Army, on my Xgl. I reckon most in America's army would love to have your problems. SCNR! =^> Matthias -- I prefer encrypted a

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Jan Stępień
Albert Hopkins napisał(a): > $ startx /path/to/program/that/needs/X.org -- /usr/bin/X > $ startx -- /usr/bin/Xgl > > or whatever. There's probably a dozen other ways to do it. See the > startx man page for details. Thanks, I'll take a look at the manual and give it a shot. Regards, Jan -- Mai

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 15:06 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: [...] > I've begun this thread because of my difficulties with running some > OpenGL applications, e.g. Americas Army, on my Xgl. If you'd like to > read any details you can take a look at first posts of this topic. Then you probably don't wan

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Jan Stępień
Albert Hopkins napisał(a): > A "chooser" in the GDM/XDMCP sense is a program that lists available > hosts to log into (via XDMCP). Thanks. It may be useful some day. > Why should you need to write anything. Forget GDM and if you want to > run X then type "X [ENTER]". If you want Xgl then "Xgl [

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 08:58 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: [...] > Is it possible to enable some kind of a chooser which would allow me to > choose whether I'd like to launch Xgl or Xorg? While working on my > /usr/share/gdm/default.conf I've spotted a server called 'chooser'. > Could you tell me what

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Jan Stępień
As far as I can see there is no chance neither to get my Radeon to cooperate with open source driver nor to turn on AIGLX with my fglrx, at least at the moment of writing. It's a pity, but allow me then to return to the secondary topic of this thread. Is it possible to enable some kind of a choose

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-23 Thread Jan Stępień
Iain Buchanan napisał(a): > On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 21:47 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: > > try these exact searches in google (include the site.. bit) > > INPUT_DEVICES VIDEO_CARDS site:http://www.gentoo.org > and > INPUT_DEVICES VIDEO_CARDS site:http://www.gentoo-wiki.org I visited gentoo.org and sk

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 21:47 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: > Mick napisał(a): > > Did you try remerging xorg with the radeon VIDEO_DEVICE flag after you > > removed > > the fglrx module? > > Actually I haven't heard about this flag. I've just googled for it but > without any reasonably results. Could

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/22/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [drm:drm_unlock] *ERROR* Process 5256 using kernel context 0 Hmm, looks like kernel DRM is still having some issues. Try changing your xorg.conf back to Driver "radeon", comment out the "Option" lines, and then do a full reboot. You might wan

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Jan Stępień
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napisał(a): > You other mail had this in the attachment: >> Section "Device" >> Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]" >> # Driver "radeon" >> Driver "fglrx" >> Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" >> Option "VideoOverlay" "on" >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 22 January 2007 14:59, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'': > I've enabled an option in my kernel called > CONFIG_DRM_RADEON and compiled it as a loadable mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Jan Stępień
Richard Fish napisał(a): > On 1/22/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In fact the radeon module conflicts with fglrx. I've unloaded fglrx, >> modprobed radeon (verified by lsmod) and relaunched gdm. But it's still >> refusing to use the new module: >> >> (EE) Failed to load module "rade

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Jan Stępień
Mick napisał(a): > On Monday 22 January 2007 17:29, Jan Stępień wrote: > >> In fact the radeon module conflicts with fglrx. I've unloaded fglrx, >> modprobed radeon (verified by lsmod) and relaunched gdm. But it's still >> refusing to use the new module: >> >> (EE) Failed to load module "radeon"

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 22 January 2007 11:29, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'': > In fact the radeon module conflicts with fglrx. I've unloaded fglrx, > modprobed radeon (verif

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Mick
On Monday 22 January 2007 17:29, Jan Stępień wrote: > In fact the radeon module conflicts with fglrx. I've unloaded fglrx, > modprobed radeon (verified by lsmod) and relaunched gdm. But it's still > refusing to use the new module: > > (EE) Failed to load module "radeon" (module does not exist, 0)

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/22/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In fact the radeon module conflicts with fglrx. I've unloaded fglrx, modprobed radeon (verified by lsmod) and relaunched gdm. But it's still refusing to use the new module: (EE) Failed to load module "radeon" (module does not exist, 0) Actuall

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-22 Thread Jan Stępień
Richard Fish napisał(a): On 1/20/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (/lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r4/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Cannot allocate memory Try searching dmesg for drm. My guess is either the radeonfb module is conflicting, or the fglrx module. -Richard In fact the

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-21 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/20/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (/lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r4/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Cannot allocate memory Try searching dmesg for drm. My guess is either the radeonfb module is conflicting, or the fglrx module. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-20 Thread Jan Stępień
Richard Fish napisał(a): > On 1/19/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Please verify my plan. I should recompile my kernel with device drivers >> -> character devices -> radeon built in (or as a module) and in >> xorg.conf set driver to "radeon". Am I right? > > Yeah, I think that will w

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-19 Thread Novensiles divi Flamen
On Saturday 20 January 2007 00:31, Jan Stępień wrote: > After launching X server with this setting it results in using Mesa > instead of fglrx, which means NO direct rendering, as proved by glxinfo. > Beryl cannot be launched because of lack of DRI. > > If I turn composite off, the X server is driv

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/19/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please verify my plan. I should recompile my kernel with device drivers -> character devices -> radeon built in (or as a module) and in xorg.conf set driver to "radeon". Am I right? Yeah, I think that will work. Good luck! -Richard -- gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 19 January 2007 15:01, Jan Stępień wrote: > Jan Stępień napisał(a): > > Fair enough. Firstly I'll check whether AIGLX will be working with my > > video card, and in case of failure I'll give xlaunch a shot. > > I've reemerged Xorg adding "aiglx" to USE variable, modified > /etc/X11/xorg.c

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering

2007-01-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 19 January 2007 16:52, Richard Fish wrote: > On 1/19/07, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/18/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. Is it possible to enable somehow direct rendering on Xgl, therefore > > > allowing OpenGL apps to work as ought to. > > > > No..

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-19 Thread Jan Stępień
Richard Fish napisał(a): > Have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.*.log files? They should reflect > why the Xgl server is not being accellerated. Got it! Somewhere around 92% of /var/log/Xorg.94.log, which is logging Xgl, I've found: (EE) fglrx(0): Hardware has already been locked. (II) fglrx(0):

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/19/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When entering default runlevel GDM starts and launches both servers. First one, Standard, has got direct rendering turned on and OpenGL is rendered by fglrx driver. OpenGL apps work fine. On the other hand second server, Xgl, has not got direct r

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering

2007-01-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/19/07, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/18/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Is it possible to enable somehow direct rendering on Xgl, therefore > allowing OpenGL apps to work as ought to. No... Bah, apologies for silly answer already provided by others. This sh

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-19 Thread Jan Stępień
Hemmann, Volker Armin napisał(a): > On Thursday 18 January 2007 23:47, Jan Stępień wrote: >> On 18 Sty, 19:50, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" >>> >>> Or you can start a second X with xinit. So you would have one >>> desktop (on F7) >>> with Xgl and one (F8) with 'normal' X. >> This method sounds interesti

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering

2007-01-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/18/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Is it possible to enable somehow direct rendering on Xgl, therefore allowing OpenGL apps to work as ought to. No...Xgl is always indirect. What graphics hardware are you using? If it is anything but ATI, you should be able to use the aiglx

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-19 Thread Jan Stępień
Jan Stępień napisał(a): > > Fair enough. Firstly I'll check whether AIGLX will be working with my > video card, and in case of failure I'll give xlaunch a shot. > I've reemerged Xorg adding "aiglx" to USE variable, modified /etc/X11/xorg.conf (actually I've been following these instructions: htt

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-19 Thread Jan Stępień
Novensiles divi Flamen napisał(a): > I use a script called xlaunch: > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-483004-highlight-xlaunch.html > > I run it on my laptop and have absolutely no problems, the xserver alone won't > kill your performance. > > - Noven Thanks, sounds interesting. Hemmann, V

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-18 Thread Fredrik Tolf
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 23:47 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: > On 18 Sty, 19:50, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > nope. It isn't. > > Xgl and direct rendering are exclusive. One or the other. > > Pity. That would be lovely. I'm no expert, but as far as I know, that's the reason w

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-18 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 18 January 2007 23:47, Jan Stępień wrote: > On 18 Sty, 19:50, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > nope. It isn't. > > Xgl and direct rendering are exclusive. One or the other. > > Pity. That would be lovely. > > > Yes. > > > > Or you can start a second X with xini

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-18 Thread Novensiles divi Flamen
On Friday 19 January 2007 09:17, Jan Stępień wrote: > > > > Or you can start a second X with xinit. So you would have one > > desktop (on F7) > > with Xgl and one (F8) with 'normal' X. > > This method sounds interesting, but I have some doubts. Won't two > separate X servers be too big challenge fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-18 Thread Jan Stępień
On 18 Sty, 19:50, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nope. It isn't. > Xgl and direct rendering are exclusive. One or the other. > Pity. That would be lovely. > > Yes. > > Or you can start a second X with xinit. So you would have one > desktop (on F7) > with Xgl and one (F8) wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-18 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 18 January 2007 18:32, Jan Stępień wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've been using Xgl for quite a long time without any serious problems. > Recently I've tried to launch America's Army (emerged one, version > 2.5.0) on my box, but... > > ~ armyops > Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on

[gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering

2007-01-18 Thread Jan Stępień
Hi everyone, I've been using Xgl for quite a long time without any serious problems. Recently I've tried to launch America's Army (emerged one, version 2.5.0) on my box, but... ~ armyops Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0". Cheat protection disabled open /dev/[sound/]mixer: N

[gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-18 Thread Jan Stępień
Hi everyone, I've been using Xgl for quite a long time without any serious problems. Recently I've tried to launch America's Army (emerged one, version 2.5.0) on my box, but... ~ armyops Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0". Cheat protection disabled open /dev/[sound/]mixer: N