Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:02:37 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I'm certain we're talking about something different, since neither | vim nor screen uses any other interface in that area than termcap. | | I was just in screen yesterd

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:02:37 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I'm certain we're talking about something different, since neither | vim nor screen uses any other interface in that area than termcap. | | I was just in screen yesterday, and am looking at vim right now, just | in

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:40:51 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | fwiw, the termcap internals of vim and screen are just as ugly as | vi's - and they're much larger - and I don't see any complaints about | those programs on this list. Yes, but both of those can be told to use

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:40:51 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | fwiw, the termcap internals of vim and screen are just as ugly as | vi's - and they're much larger - and I don't see any complaints about | those programs on this list. Yes, but both of those can be told to use

Re: (fwd) Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:40:51 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | fwiw, the termcap internals of vim and screen are just as ugly as | vi's - and they're much larger - and I don't see any complaints about | those programs on this list.

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:40:51 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | fwiw, the termcap internals of vim and screen are just as ugly as | vi's - and they're much larger - and I don't see any complaints about | those programs on this list. Yes, but both of those can be told to use pur

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 14:33:04 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | There is no ebuild, but you can dow

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 05:56:24PM +, Ivan Novick wrote > OK. Thanks for all the replies. > > I will just use vim. Run it as "vim -C". From the vim manpage... -C Compatible. Set the 'compatible' option. This will make Vim behave mostly like Vi, even

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 14:33:04 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at | > |

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at | . No you can't. It's either broken or will become broken in the future wit

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

2005/12/25, Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:34, George Ellison wrote:> Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> > Ivan Novick schrieb:> >> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not > >> vim??> >> > No, as there's no normal VI for Linux.

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:34, George Ellison wrote: > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ivan Novick schrieb: > >> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not > >> vim?? > > > > No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. > > But if you d

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

* Alexander Skwar schrieb: [traditional vi] > Beats me why somebody would want to use it, though. Experimental archaeology, historical reenactment. It's one of the most successful applications ever. Thirty years after Bill Joy started coding it, people are typing "$> vi ~/.emacsrc" ;-) I just in

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:10:03 -0500 Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | You can set Vim up to act as if it were Vi : look at its dox. Bad idea. You lose multiple undo levels and the ability to edit more than two files at once... -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I can kill you with my b

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

051224 Ivan Novick wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. I will just use vim. You can set Vim up to act as if it were Vi : look at its dox. As everyone else has responded too, I don't understand why you want to, but Linux & esp Gentoo are basically about user choice (smile). If you want a really s

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

George Ellison schrieb: > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Ivan Novick schrieb: >> >>> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? >> >> No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. >> But if you don't like the vim clone, why don't you

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 12:34 -0500, George Ellison wrote: >> emerge -C vim && emerge emacs > > Troll > Chill out. I'm just being facetious. -- FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #21 A: Dr. Livingston I. Presume. Q: What's Dr. Pre

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

OK. Thanks for all the replies. I will just use vim. Cheers, Ivan Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at | . No you can't. It's eithe

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 12:34 -0500, George Ellison wrote: > emerge -C vim && emerge emacs Troll -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key:

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at | . No you can't. It's either broken or will become broken in the future with our "lack of termcap" setup, hence why the eb

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ivan Novick schrieb: > >> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? > > No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. > But if you don't like the vim clone, why don't you try on > of the others? > > BTW:

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

Klaus Fabritius schrieb: > * Alexander Skwar schrieb: >> Ivan Novick schrieb: >>> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? > >> No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. > [...] > > In 2002 Caldera opened the original vi from Bill Joy under a B

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

Ivan Novick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at . -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ivan Novick schrieb: > >> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? > > No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. Sure there is. -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@ge

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

* Alexander Skwar schrieb: > Ivan Novick schrieb: >> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? > No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. [...] In 2002 Caldera opened the original vi from Bill Joy under a BSD-style license. There is a linux por

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

Ivan Novick schrieb: > Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. But if you don't like the vim clone, why don't you try on of the others? BTW: How can you *not* like vim? I mean, it's very much compatib

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

Of all the editors I have to say Nano is the best. Being a former Windows user : -) Although this is totally off topic, I just had to let you know in case you were wondering. On 12/24/05, George Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ivan Novick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Does anyone know

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 11:15 +, Ivan Novick wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? You don't want normal vi, trust me on this. : ) We do have "nvi", (elvis, but I'm not sure there) and if you're desperate for the original feeling of loss, the busybo

Re: [gentoo-user] VI

Ivan Novick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? I think that the closest in portage is nvi, which is what the BSD's have by default. -- Natural selection won't matter soon, not anywhere as much as concious selection. We will civ

[gentoo-user] VI

Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? Thanks, Ivan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, kashani wrote: > > IIRC it used to be in portage as of around of a year ago. You might be > able to track down an ebuild of it in the old ebuilds. I'd have been > able to tell you for sure but I wiped it off my last machine last month > when I enforced the vim with color synt

Re: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 02:36:57PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > What he meant was that "traditional ex/vi" is broken when built against > ncurses rather than termcap, and that we're trying to remove termcap > from the tree on the grounds that it's h0rked. "traditional ex/vi" sounds like Ritt

Re: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:06:20 -0400 Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 01:16:38PM +0200, Spider wrote: | > well, its sorta orphaned due to being a pain to maintain | > ( terminfo /curses dependencies) there are still ebuilds, you can | > look in the viewcvs to recov

Re: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 01:16:38PM +0200, Spider wrote: > > > well, its sorta orphaned due to being a pain to maintain > ( terminfo /curses dependencies) there are still ebuilds, you can look > in the viewcvs to recover the old ones I believe. all versions of vi rely on terminfo/termcap or cur

Re: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:59 -0500, kashani wrote: > Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm using a script for months now to install my gentoo servers, now after > > my last sync i have seen that there are some changes in the portage like > > there is no gentoo-dev-sources moved to gentoo-

Re: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

Patrick Marquetecken wrote: Hi, I'm using a script for months now to install my gentoo servers, now after my last sync i have seen that there are some changes in the portage like there is no gentoo-dev-sources moved to gentoo-sources, but vi is also missing! Is this compleet gone? or also moved, ca

Re: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

VIM is still there. Could you use that? On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 19:34 +0200, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using a script for months now to install my gentoo servers, now after > my last sync i have seen that there are some changes in the portage like > there is no gentoo-dev-sources m

RE: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

> emerge -pv vim > > It seems to respond to vi at the command line. I had the same question > a couple of days ago... It only seems the same. There was a vi package (don't remember the origins of it), but it was only a basic vi implementation. Vim is Vi-iMproved and includes all the nice featur

RE: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

> I love the good old vi Now referred to as 'vim'. Change your script to emerge vim and everything will be back on track. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

emerge -pv vim It seems to respond to vi at the command line. I had the same question a couple of days ago... On 4/20/05, Patrick Marquetecken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using a script for months now to install my gentoo servers, now after > my last sync i have seen that there are

[gentoo-user] vi is mising from the portage

Hi, I'm using a script for months now to install my gentoo servers, now after my last sync i have seen that there are some changes in the portage like there is no gentoo-dev-sources moved to gentoo-sources, but vi is also missing! Is this compleet gone? or also moved, can someone point me in the g