On Sunday 12 June 2011 13:12:51 David W Noon wrote:
> You should see this reply correctly threaded to your message, provided
> you are not reading the mailing list through Usenet downstream from
> the bofh.it server.
Indeed. Thanks.
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Peter
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:02:13AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday 04 June 2011 20:31:35 David W Noon wrote:
>
> > I'm reading it a bit late because I was doing a full system backup of my
> > own newsserver system (~40 gigs) with the cron jobs all stopped,
> > including the one that pul
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:06:00 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about "Re:
[gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design":
>On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:22:00 David W Noon wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200,
On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:22:00 David W Noon wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
> Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
[...]
> Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the
> breakage.
[...]
> I hope a
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:30:01 +0200, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote:
[snip]
>> Are we all confused enough for this weekend? ... :-)
>
>Ha, ha! I'm more than others it seems!
David W Noon wrote:
Are we all confused enough for this weekend? ... :-)
Ya'll lost me long ago. What exactly is past confusion anyway? I think
that is where I am now.
Dale
:-) :-)
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
> Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>
> [snip]
>
> >Oh, so when it gets broken, I need to find the message before that to
> >see where
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:11:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> IIRC the approved way to do it is set arch to stable then just leave it
> alone for 6 months letting packages catch up. Keep an eye out for
> security bugs but otherwise do nothing. After a while emerge world will
> show a list that looks l
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 14:50:00 Indi wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 03:11:04PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did
> > opine
> >
> > thusly:
> > > Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
> > > Never did actually switch from testing
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 16:43:34 Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2011-06-04 5:10 PM, Indi wrote:
> > Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> > at times when dealing with IMAP. It happens in mutt as well, but pretty
> > rarely and mutt can be killed and started fresh in an inst
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 13:28:40 Indi wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:41:42PM +0100, Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
> > > If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
> > > might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
> > > at. Heh, rem
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>David W Noon wrote:
[snip]
>> I hope all is clear now.
>
>Oh, so when it gets broken, I need to find the message before that to
>see where it got messed up.
On 2011-06-04 5:10 PM, Indi wrote:
> Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> at times when dealing with IMAP. It happens in mutt as well, but pretty
> rarely and mutt can be killed and started fresh in an instant, unlike
> many others.
>
> My experiences with evol
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 03:11:04PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
> thusly:
>
> > Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
> > Never did actually switch from testing to stable, it's always the other
> > way around. Every no
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
> Never did actually switch from testing to stable, it's always the other
> way around. Every now and then I'll delete the "~" and type "emerge
> -vauND world", it always
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:31:21PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 13:57 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
> thusly:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A victim of "release early, release often"? :-)
> >
> >
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:23:50PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 13:17 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
> thusly:
>
> > If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
> > might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
> > at. He
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:57 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >
> >
> > A victim of "release early, release often"? :-)
>
> Yes, definitely.
> One of these days I'll switch back to stable, just haven't
>
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:41:42PM +0100, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
> >
> > If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
> > might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
> > at. Heh, reminds me of my ex -- he was very pleasant to look
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:17 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
> might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
> at. Heh, reminds me of my ex -- he was very pleasant to look at
> (and a huge am
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> A victim of "release early, release often"? :-)
>
Yes, definitely.
One of these days I'll switch back to stable, just haven't
been willing to bite that bullet quite yet. At least it's
helped me temper my obsessive tendencies a
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 June 2011 06:43:37 Indi wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:43 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> > I see room for a KDEPIM fork from the 4.4 codebase in maintenance mode
> > that does not add deep features.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks, Alan. Of course kmail is out of the question, as it requires a
> ginormous a
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Sunday 05 June 2011 06:43:37 Indi wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
> > > opine
> > >
> > > thusly:
> >
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
> opine
> thusly:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> > > Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
> > > > Every single GUI MU
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> > Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
> > > Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> > > at times when deali
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:42:40PM +0100, Mick wrote:
>
> I have looked at mutt some time ago, but then I would also need to install
> fetchmail and smtp and what not, instead of a single desktop application.
>
Actually you can build mutt with the smtp, imap, and pop flags and
use mutt's built-
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:57:44PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> David W Noon wrote:
> > Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the
> > breakage.
> >
> > A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of
> > all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewr
David W Noon wrote:
Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the
breakage.
A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of
all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten,
regardless of its initial value. This is why correctly posted mes
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 22:59:32 Indi wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> > Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
> > > Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> > > at times when dealing with IMAP.
> >
> > I use Thunderbird and
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
[snip]
>Well, something works now. This is threaded as it should be. So,
>whatever you are doing, keep doing it that away. lol
>
>I don't want you to think I was
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
>
> > Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> > at times when dealing with IMAP.
>
> I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3 years now and in all that time became
> TB
Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
> Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> at times when dealing with IMAP.
I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3 years now and in all that time became
TB never unresponsive. So this point seems to have improved since your
testing.
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:19:51PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
> I have a slightly adverse general opinion about the mail
> client called 'mutt'. I am not saying that this is the fault of its devs nor
> do I suggesst that there is anything wrong with its users.
>
> Pine is slightly l
On Saturday 04 June 2011 15:46:49 Indi wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote:
> > > On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > >> Apparent
David W Noon wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:40:01 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
The thread "Cleaning redundant configuration files" is the worst. I
just went back and looked. David W Noon is usually where it starts.
David
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote:
> > On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >> Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011,
On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote:
> On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi
> >> did opine
> >>
> >> thusly:
> >>> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11A
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:40:01 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>The thread "Cleaning redundant configuration files" is the worst. I
>just went back and looked. David W Noon is usually where it starts.
>David, what you go
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:59:52AM -0700, kashani wrote:
> On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
> >> opine
> >> thusly:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 0
On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sor
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
> opine
> thusly:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > > I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top
> > >
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top
> > posting. Some people have to top post because the device they are using
> >
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:50:03PM +0200, Indi wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> >
> > I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the
> > server changes the headers of the mails.
> >
> > That is a example of Indi's headers when he w
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:38:38AM -0400, Indi wrote:
>
> Well I could be wrong but do believe the MUA wll write the Xref or
> References headers according to what the server has on the original
> message. If the original header info exists anywhere in the message sent
> by the mail2news gateway i
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
>
> That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using usenet
>
> References:
>
>
>
>
Can't believe I never noticed that Bastard Operator From Hell
reference in those headers, lol...
--
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On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
>
> I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the
> server changes the headers of the mails.
>
> That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using usenet
>
> References:
>
>
>
>
> That is what his
Am 04.06.2011 16:54, schrieb Dale:
> I just wonder if there is some setting that could be changed somewhere
> to make it work correctly with usenet, or whatever you were using. I
> just know this is going to happen again.
I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the
server
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>
> I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top
> posting. Some people have to top post because the device they are using
> won't let them reply any other way.
>
> I just wonder if there is some setting that could b
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design
From: Dale
Date: 2011-06-04 21:54
Indi wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That one was inline with the rest. Yeppie !!
>>>
&
Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote:
That one was inline with the rest. Yeppie !!
Thanks for the confirmation, and for mentioning it in the first place.
I couldn't tell of course, because they all looked fine on usenet and
there was no local email to co
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Indi wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> >
> >> I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with
> >> Indi to tho.
> >>
> >> This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well.
Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with
Indi to tho.
This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue
what order things are supposed to be in so just replying as I get to
th
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>
> I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with
> Indi to tho.
>
> This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue
> what order things are supposed to be in so just replying as I get to
> the
Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 04.06.2011 12:37, schrieb Marc Joliet:
I noticed it with DW Noon, too, although it also happened with Indi. I'm
using Claws-Mail myself.
I have Thunderbird and see this breakings too, it is really annoing.
Greetings
Sebastian
I'm using Seamonkey fo
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 02:30:02PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> Am 04.06.2011 14:03, schrieb Indi:
>
> > Could it have anything to do with the fact that I read this list from the
> > usenet group, rather than the list itself? Could that cause an
> > inconsistency
> > in headers that might b
Am 04.06.2011 14:03, schrieb Indi:
> Could it have anything to do with the fact that I read this list from the
> usenet group, rather than the list itself? Could that cause an inconsistency
> in headers that might break threading, perhaps?
Your References: Header looks very strange, I think th
Am 04.06.2011 12:37, schrieb Marc Joliet:
> I noticed it with DW Noon, too, although it also happened with Indi. I'm
> using Claws-Mail myself.
I have Thunderbird and see this breakings too, it is really annoing.
Greetings
Sebastian
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On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 01:10:01PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> most of the broken threads will seem to be broken by Indi. Now change it to
> Standard Mailing List and threading mostly goes back to being normal.
>
> I don't think the broken threads are anyone's mailer, I think it's kmail
> d
Am Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:35:32 +0100
schrieb Mick :
> On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote:
> > Stroller wrote:
> > > On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote:
> > >> …
[...]
>
> Are you sure it is DW Noon? His mail client seems legit:
>
> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i686-pc-linu
Apparently, though unproven, at 10:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Mick did opine
thusly:
> On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote:
> > Stroller wrote:
> > > On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote:
> > >> …
> > >> What I would like to know is why some threads get broken up? My mail
> > >> client
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote:
> Stroller wrote:
> > On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote:
> >> …
> >> What I would like to know is why some threads get broken up? My mail
> >> client here follows these conversations as threads. For some reason,
> >> recently the threads are getting
Stroller wrote:
On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote:
…
What I would like to know is why some threads get broken up? My mail client
here follows these conversations as threads. For some reason, recently the
threads are getting broken as if someone started a fresh one.
I'm sure this is n
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