Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:52:57 -0500 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 04:44:27PM +, Mick wrote > > > [nomerge ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5 > > [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10 > > [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2] > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 04:44:27PM +, Mick wrote > emerge -uatDv world brought up the original: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [nomerge ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5 USE="dbus gstreamer > gtk ncurses nls spell xscreensaver (-aqua) -debug -doc -eds > -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -idn -

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-13 Thread Mick
On Friday 13 Dec 2013 10:49:24 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 13 Dec 2013 07:04:23 Mick wrote: > > I rebuilt kde-utils meta with USE="-cups" to find out that umpteen > > packages > > > want to be depcleaned: > --->8 > > > I may leave this until I have more time to look into it. > > For compar

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 13 Dec 2013 07:04:23 Mick wrote: > I rebuilt kde-utils meta with USE="-cups" to find out that umpteen packages > want to be depcleaned: --->8 > I may leave this until I have more time to look into it. For comparison, here's the list of packages that would be pulled in if I were to re

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/12/2013 09:04, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 12 Dec 2013 10:01:20 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:04:00 Mick wrote: >>> Let me get this right, if I set 'kde-base/kdeutils-meta -cups' I will >>> still be able to print from kde applications? >> >> Here, the K menu item "Manage

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-12 Thread Mick
On Thursday 12 Dec 2013 10:01:20 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:04:00 Mick wrote: > > Let me get this right, if I set 'kde-base/kdeutils-meta -cups' I will > > still be able to print from kde applications? > > Here, the K menu item "Manage Printing" opens a CUPS web page, spec

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:04:00 Mick wrote: > Let me get this right, if I set 'kde-base/kdeutils-meta -cups' I will still > be able to print from kde applications? Here, the K menu item "Manage Printing" opens a CUPS web page, specifically localhost:631. It's a bog-standard CUPS interface, wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 23:04, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 16:52:49 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> $ equery depends print-manager >>> >>> * These packages depend on print-manager: >>> kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ? >>> =kde-base/pri

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 16:52:49 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > $ equery depends print-manager > > > > * These packages depend on print-manager: > > kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ? > > > > >=kde-base/print-manager-4.11.4:4[aqua=]) > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: > $ equery depends print-manager > * These packages depend on print-manager: > kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ? > > >=kde-base/print-manager-4.11.4:4[aqua=]) > > Set USE="-cups" to fix Confirmed. I didn't have kdeutils-meta installed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 18:29, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:58:19 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote: >>> I seem to have two packages from gnome: >>> >>> # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome >>> >>> Calculating dependencies... done! >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:58:19 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote: > > I seem to have two packages from gnome: > > > > # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome > > > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > > > app-admin/system-config-pr

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote: > I seem to have two packages from gnome: > > # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome > > Calculating dependencies... done! > app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 pulled in by: > kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5 requir

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 01:49, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:29:25 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:03:00 Mick wrote: >>> Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use >>> gstreamer? >> >> Not here, no. I have gstreamer but no gnome-base on this KDE box

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-10 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:29:25 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:03:00 Mick wrote: > > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use > > gstreamer? > > Not here, no. I have gstreamer but no gnome-base on this KDE box (not > ~amd64). In fact, "eix -I gno

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-10 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 15:25:32 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 11:47:41AM +, Mick wrote > > > On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 + > > > > > > Mick wrote: > > > > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 11:47:41AM +, Mick wrote > On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 + > > > > Mick wrote: > > > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be > > > sufficient, without having to manually mask packages. I ha

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:47:41 + Mick wrote: > tomorrow I could end up *having* to install > systemd or whatever RHL and their developers have deemed appropriate > for your average desktop system. They don't have control over the dependencies in packages and distributions they don't own though

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 + > > Mick wrote: > > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be > > sufficient, without having to manually mask packages. I had > > gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound. I'm guessing

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:03:00 Mick wrote: > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use > gstreamer? Not here, no. I have gstreamer but no gnome-base on this KDE box (not ~amd64). In fact, "eix -I gnome" returns only polkit-gnome. I see that's only there because I

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 + Mick wrote: > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be > sufficient, without having to manually mask packages. I had > gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound. I'm guessing that I > need gstreamer in pidgin to be able to set up a voice c

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 10:31:38 you wrote: > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:16:43 + > > Mick wrote: > > Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system? Is it > > media-plugins/gst- plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this > > morning, when it hadn't done so before? > > > > This is what I see,

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:16:43 + Mick wrote: > Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system? Is it > media-plugins/gst- plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this > morning, when it hadn't done so before? > > This is what I see, but I also include the full enchilada below in > case it is

[gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Mick
Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system? Is it media-plugins/gst- plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this morning, when it hadn't done so before? This is what I see, but I also include the full enchilada below in case it is more informative: [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-pl