On 26/04/2013 23:43, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
>> either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and
>> in the dark to geet their before 9 o'cloc
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:24:53 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> But what would make more sense (at least in my mind) would be to have
> official 'working hours' changes, and adjust those, rather than change
> the clocks - ie, in your example, instead of school starting at 9:00am,
> it switches to start
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:15:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> You are in Australia. The sun happens to shine in Australia. It shines a
> lot there.
> I am in South Africa. The sun happens to shine a lot in South Africa. It
> shines a lot here.
>
> Neil is in England. The sun never shines in England.
On 27/04/2013 18:24, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-04-26 5:10 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
>> either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and
>> in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock. Not fun. DST wou
On 2013-04-26 5:10 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and
in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock. Not fun. DST would have helped.
But what would make more sens
On 27/04/2013 00:11, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>> On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
>>> Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
>>> :
Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-)
I notice that no-one has yet
On 27/04/2013 05:44, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Get over it and enjoy the extra hour in the evening. But then again I'm
> in Australia where
[snip here]
OK, stop right there. I see where the disconnect comes in.
You are in Australia. The sun happens to shine in Australia. It shines a
lot there.
I am i
On 27/04/2013 03:20, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
>>> either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in
On 26/04/2013 23:28, Nick Khamis wrote:
> On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 26/04/2013 19:11, Nick Khamis wrote:
>>> Thank you so much for your response, and I totally understand the
>>> effort vs. benefit challenge. However, is it really that much
>>> trouble/unstable to setup ou
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:20:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > No it wouldn't - DST makes it darker in the morning. When I was about
> > 11, the government experimented with using BST all year round. One of
> > the reasons given for not doing it was that kids would have to go to
> > school in the d
On 04/27/13 09:20, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow
an
On 27/04/13 09:20, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
>>> either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in th
On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
> > either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow
> > and in the dark to geet their bef
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
>> Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
>> :
>>> Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-)
>>>
>>> I notice that no-one has yet mentioned that Windows does not do ntp, as
>>> Windo
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
> either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and
> in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock. Not fun. DST would have
> helped.
No it would
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 26/04/2013 19:11, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> Thank you so much for your response, and I totally understand the
>> effort vs. benefit challenge. However, is it really that much
>> trouble/unstable to setup our own ntp
>> server that syncs with ou
On 26/04/2013 23:02, the guard wrote:
>> I was thinking more along the lines of how Windows has no concept of UTC
>> set in the hw clock and a local timezone, and how timezones are odd
>> things like Harare/Pretoria instead of the official names like
>> SAST GMT+2 as set by the scientific timekeep
Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:54 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
:
> On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
> > :
> >> On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
> Hello
On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
>
>
>
> Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
> :
>> On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate n
Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
:
> On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
> >> Hello Everyone,
> >>
> >> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
> >> server, and was wondering which of the ma
On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
>> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
>> considered viable. I did see the
>> http://en.gentoo-
On 26/04/2013 20:36, Stroller wrote:
>
> On 26 April 2013, at 16:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> ...
>> So here's what you do: sync everything to your ISP's time servers.
>> Chances are good they do a better job than you can, just like with DNS
>> caching.
>
>
> I'm not sure if my ISP offers time se
On 26/04/2013 19:11, Nick Khamis wrote:
>>> >> Thank you so much for your response, and I totally understand the
>>> >> effort vs. benefit challenge. However, is it really that much
>>> >> trouble/unstable to setup our own ntp
>>> >> server that syncs with our local isp, and have our internal netwo
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
> considered viable. I did see the
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
> Our service
On 26 April 2013, at 16:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> ...
> So here's what you do: sync everything to your ISP's time servers.
> Chances are good they do a better job than you can, just like with DNS
> caching.
I'm not sure if my ISP offers time servers, but Apple and MS both run time
servers whic
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 26/04/2013 17:54, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which
would
be most reliable in a c
On 26/04/2013 17:54, Nick Khamis wrote:
> On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which
>>> would
>>> be most reliable in a collocation setting vs. office desktop. What
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which
>> would
>> be most reliable in a collocation setting vs. office desktop. What we
>> would like
>> is to set up our own ntp se
On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which would
> be most reliable in a collocation setting vs. office desktop. What we would
> like
> is to set up our own ntp server which other servers and desktops in ou
On 4/26/13, Jarry wrote:
> On 26-Apr-13 16:10, Joseph wrote:
>> On 04/25/13 10:33, Nick Khamis wrote:
>>>
>>> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
>>> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
>>> considered viable. I did see the
>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.co
On 26-Apr-13 16:10, Joseph wrote:
On 04/25/13 10:33, Nick Khamis wrote:
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our services are q
On 04/25/13 10:33, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our services are quite time sensitive
On 26/04/13 07:57, staticsafe wrote:
> On 4/25/2013 19:50, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 26/04/2013 01:42, William Kenworthy wrote:
>>> Does anyone know a good guide to using time sync in VM's, for both
>>> windows and linux (gentoo) guests using libvirt? Especially for guests
>>> that are resumed, o
On 4/25/2013 19:50, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 26/04/2013 01:42, William Kenworthy wrote:
>> Does anyone know a good guide to using time sync in VM's, for both
>> windows and linux (gentoo) guests using libvirt? Especially for guests
>> that are resumed, or the whole virtualisation system is hibern
On 26/04/2013 01:42, William Kenworthy wrote:
> Does anyone know a good guide to using time sync in VM's, for both
> windows and linux (gentoo) guests using libvirt? Especially for guests
> that are resumed, or the whole virtualisation system is hibernated? (ntp
> refuses to resync after guest pau
Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
> On Thursday 25 April 2013 08:09 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Nick Khamis wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
>>> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
>>> considered viable. I did see the
>>> http://en
On 25/04/13 23:07, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> Ummm... *all* servers are critically time-sensitive.
>>
>
> Yeah... I concur ;)
>
Define critical! - to my mind if its critical you should be running your
own atomic clock, and something like a pps system to distribute it ...
or somewhere in the middle a
On Thursday 25 April 2013 08:09 PM, Dale wrote:
Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our ser
On 04/25/2013 11:02 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-04-25 10:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
>> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
>> considered viable. I did see the
>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronizat
On 04/25/2013 10:46 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-04-25 10:40 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> For contrast, having all nodes sync to pool.ntp.org results in time
>> variance of up to 2-3 minutes across a dozen or so machines.
>
> That makes no sense...
>
> Not calling you a liar or anything, but it j
> Ummm... *all* servers are critically time-sensitive.
>
Yeah... I concur ;)
On 4/25/13, Michael Mol wrote:
> On 04/25/2013 10:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
>> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
>> considered viable. I did see the
>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_
On 2013-04-25 10:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Are these virtualized? It makes a difference,
On 2013-04-25 10:40 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
For contrast, having all nodes sync to pool.ntp.org results in time
variance of up to 2-3 minutes across a dozen or so machines.
That makes no sense...
Not calling you a liar or anything, but it just doesn't make sense.
I can see that it might take
On 04/25/2013 10:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
> considered viable. I did see the
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
> Our services are qui
Nick Khamis wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
> considered viable. I did see the
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
> Our services are quite time sensitive.
>
> Th
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our services are quite time sensitive.
Thanks in Advance,
N.
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