On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 09:17:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 August 2015 17:52:28 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:26:02 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > Oh, and do you know why the handbook now says to include a tiny
> > > grub partition before the boot partitio
On Wednesday 05 August 2015 17:52:28 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:26:02 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Oh, and do you know why the handbook now says to include a tiny grub
> > partition before the boot partition, even on an MBR system?
>
> If you use GPT on a motherboard with B
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 August 2015 10:43:28 Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> Just to humor you I'll include an OpenRC version of my raid1 btrfs
>> install walkthrough. :) It has been a while since I've done one of
>> those...
>
> Me too please, Rich. I s
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:27:08 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > THREE WEEKS is not uncommon for this. I am not joking. Remember, I
> > have done it, and so have many others here. It was fun the first
> > time, now it is just a major PITA
>
> Mostly it just provides an opportunity to prove you
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:26:02 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Oh, and do you know why the handbook now says to include a tiny grub
> partition before the boot partition, even on an MBR system?
If you use GPT on a motherboard with BIOS, you need that partition.
It's on UEFI systems that you don't
On Wednesday 05 August 2015 10:43:28 Rich Freeman wrote:
> Just to humor you I'll include an OpenRC version of my raid1 btrfs
> install walkthrough. :) It has been a while since I've done one of
> those...
Me too please, Rich. I still haven't got this six-year-old MBR box to boot
raid1 btrfs.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2015-08-05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:28:25 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>>
>>> The Gentoo instructions look competent enough to do well for most of the
>>> people it's designed for, if only they aren't trying to do as c
On 05/08/2015 16:27, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2015-08-05, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 04/08/2015 20:30, Felix Miata wrote:
>>
>>> Seriously, more than a day?
>>
>> Bwahahahaha! You are too funny!
>>
>> THREE WEEKS is not uncommon for this. I am not joking. Remember, I
>> have done it, and so have
On 2015-08-05, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 04/08/2015 20:30, Felix Miata wrote:
>
>> Seriously, more than a day?
>
> Bwahahahaha! You are too funny!
>
> THREE WEEKS is not uncommon for this. I am not joking. Remember, I
> have done it, and so have many others here. It was fun the first
> time, now i
On 2015-08-05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:28:25 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>
>> The Gentoo instructions look competent enough to do well for most of the
>> people it's designed for, if only they aren't trying to do as currently
>> I, avoid systemd.
>
> Eh? The Handbook is for an
Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes:
> > Rich0 said he'd modify the handbook into an experimental prose that
> > leads to a raid-1 btrfs baseline system, if enough folks liked the ideas.
> Just to clarify - I intend to do it, full stop. I don't want to
> generate some kind of "please do it" campai
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 7:57 AM, James wrote:
>
> Rich0 said he'd modify the handbook into an experimental prose that
> leads to a raid-1 btrfs baseline system, if enough folks liked the ideas.
Just to clarify - I intend to do it, full stop. I don't want to
generate some kind of "please do it" ca
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> > Um, we can think out of the box for a new and cool installation
> > semantic. Just look at blueness's posting (Gentoo Reference System) on
> > www.gentoo.org as a new, and useful approach to installs for
> > established gentoo admins.
> That's interestin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 00:39:56 + (UTC), James wrote:
> Um, we can think out of the box for a new and cool installation
> semantic. Just look at blueness's posting (Gentoo Reference System) on
> www.gentoo.org as a new, and useful approach to installs for
> established gentoo admins.
That's inter
Felix Miata earthlink.net> writes:
> That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an
> old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot
> on one HD with 12 installations of Fedora and openSUSE. I'd like to upgrade
> it rather than installin
Grant Edwards gmail.com> writes:
> I've tried that pathway. Many times. The "mostly unattended"
> installers all install things I don't want, pick options I don't like,
> and end up configured to do things the way the authors of the
> installer wanted to do things rather than the way I want to
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:59:47 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > No way on 32-bit Athlon. I have Athlon-XP. Even with distcc to
> > Core2Duo it takes about 10 days of compilation time to build all
> > stuff, I'm not counting time to fix all failures here. Well, I have
> > >3000 packages install
On 2015-08-04, James wrote:
> Felix Miata earthlink.net> writes:
>
>
>> 1-I just find upgrade processes more enjoyable than inital installations and
>> their follow-up tedium getting from defaults back to the way I like things
>> to work.
>
>
>> Now that I've seen several thread responses subs
James wrote:
> Felix Miata earthlink.net> writes:
>
>
>> 1-I just find upgrade processes more enjoyable than inital installations and
>> their follow-up tedium getting from defaults back to the way I like things
>> to work.
>
>> Now that I've seen several thread responses subsequent to this one
Felix Miata earthlink.net> writes:
> 1-I just find upgrade processes more enjoyable than inital installations and
> their follow-up tedium getting from defaults back to the way I like things
> to work.
> Now that I've seen several thread responses subsequent to this one, I'm
> leaning towar
On 2015-08-04, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:20:40 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2015-08-04, Felix Miata wrote:
>>
>> > That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an
>> > old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:20:40 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2015-08-04, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> > That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an
> > old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot
> > on one HD with 12 installations o
On 2015-08-04, Felix Miata wrote:
> Grant Edwards composed on 2015-08-04 17:20 (UTC):
>
>> My gut feeling is that a fresh install is going to be a _lot_ easier
>
> For some "degenerate" value of easier. :-)
>
>> and faster. A fresh install will take a couple hours. An upgrade will
>> take somewhe
On Tuesday 04 Aug 2015 18:20:40 Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2015-08-04, Felix Miata wrote:
> > That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on
> > an old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in
> > multiboot on one HD with 12 installations of Fedora an
On 2015-08-04, Felix Miata wrote:
> That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an
> old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot
> on one HD with 12 installations of Fedora and openSUSE. I'd like to upgrade
> it rather than installing
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