On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:42:55 -0600, Jc García wrote:
> >> It is my overwhelming concern. NO systemd.
> >> All else is optional. Where's that setting?
> >
> > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile
> I forgot USE as environment variable, so:
> USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > pr
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:55:54 + (UTC), James wrote:
> > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile
> > I forgot USE as environment variable, so:
> > USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > profile
>
> Hmmm. Remember I posted that this package.use setting besides
> make.conf -system
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 17:55:54 James wrote:
> Jc García gmail.com> writes:
> > >> What I'm
> > >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule
> > >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere
> > >> what no packages with require systemd can be insta
Jc García gmail.com> writes:
> >> What I'm
> >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule
> >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere
> >> what no packages with require systemd can be installed.
> > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf >
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes:
>
Mike and Neil help me::
rm /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask
and I cleaned out package.unmask from autounmask that
inserted systemd flag requirements. by deleting anything
that had systemd as a flag setting forgot about those 2.
dirty laundry stil
2016-02-09 11:39 GMT-06:00 Jc García :
> 2016-02-09 11:31 GMT-06:00 James :
>
>> emerge -uDvtp @world
>> shows just a few updates needed but nothing pulling in systemd. What I'm
>> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule
>> these missteps? Is there way to set somethin
2016-02-09 11:31 GMT-06:00 James :
> emerge -uDvtp @world
> shows just a few updates needed but nothing pulling in systemd. What I'm
> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule
> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere
> what no packages with r
Mick gmail.com> writes:
> James, the guidance has already been given. Can you please grep for systemd
> ALL of your /etc/portage? There seems to be a USE flag set somewhere and
this
> is what is pulling in dbus *with* systemd.
YES. I forgot Neil had told me to periodically remove this file:
2016-02-09 11:28 GMT-06:00 Jc García :
> 2016-02-09 11:21 GMT-06:00 James :
>
>>
>> # grep -r systemd /etc/portage
> ...
>> /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 systemd
>
> look at that file and that line why that was activated.
and delete it, and change the useflags for
2016-02-09 11:21 GMT-06:00 James :
>
> # grep -r systemd /etc/portage
...
> /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 systemd
look at that file and that line why that was activated.
2016-02-09 11:17 GMT-06:00 James :
> Granted. But the point is it's my desktop. udisk cannot be removed without
> changing the entire desktop. That a bit extreme. But if there is a cool,
> minimialistic desktop (lxqt?) that avoids all derivative dependencies
> on systemd && company, then that is v
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> > emerge -uDtvp world reveals the same trouble::
> >
> > [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug
> > -doc (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
> It also reveals the cause, not that you have us
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 16:47:28 James wrote:
> Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> > THIS is where you should be using -t, in the command that generates the
> > output you are trying to explain.
>
> emerge -uDvtp @world
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
> C
Jc García gmail.com> writes:
> > lxde-meta has no flag options to set, so this looks fixed.
> > I guess I could change to another minimal desktop?
> >
> > I've been running this version of lxde-meta for about a year now
> > and it has not been a problem before, at all, so I do not think
> > this
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:27:34 + (UTC), James wrote:
> Guidance? What's the replacement for udev? YES I am confounded.
There isn't one really, just three different implementations.
systemd: with udev included
udev:standalone taken from systemd
eudev: a fork of udev
Oops, before walt kic
2016-02-09 10:50 GMT-06:00 James :
> Jc García gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>> It seems to me udisks is the package with the systemd USE flag
>> activated that might be causing all the trouble, maybe automatically
>> added by an autounmask by error, I would use grep to check the package
>> use file(s),
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:40:47 + (UTC), James wrote:
> emerge -uDtvp @world reveals the same trouble::
>
> [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug
> -doc (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
> [ebuild N#]sys-apps/systemd-226-r
Jc García gmail.com> writes:
> It seems to me udisks is the package with the systemd USE flag
> activated that might be causing all the trouble, maybe automatically
> added by an autounmask by error, I would use grep to check the package
> use file(s), to know wich useflags might have been activ
On 09/02/2016 18:13, James wrote:
> Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
>
>
>>> sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker?
>>> gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker.
>
>> It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means someth
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> THIS is where you should be using -t, in the command that generates the
> output you are trying to explain.
emerge -uDvtp @world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge ] sci-vis
2016-02-09 10:27 GMT-06:00 James :
> James tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
>
>> > 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why,
>> > then deal with that.
>
> So I removed udisks gputils sdcc gimp
>
> emerge -uvtp world
>
> ebuild U ~] dev-vcs/git-2.7.1::gentoo
>
> yip
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
>
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:13:10 + (UTC), James wrote:
>
> > > > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a
> > > > blocker? gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a
> > > > blocker.
> >
> > > It's showing up because it
James tampabay.rr.com> writes:
> > 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why,
> > then deal with that.
So I removed udisks gputils sdcc gimp
emerge -uvtp world
ebuild U ~] dev-vcs/git-2.7.1::gentoo
yippee ?
emerge -uDNvtp world
Conflict: 3 blocks
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:13:10 + (UTC), James wrote:
> > > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a
> > > blocker? gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a
> > > blocker.
>
> > It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means
> > something you
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker?
> > gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker.
> It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means something
> you are installing as part of that up
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 13:30:04 + (UTC), James wrote:
> sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker?
> gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker.
It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means something
you are installing as part of
On 09/02/2016 16:42, James wrote:
> James tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
>
> Boy this just keeps getting stranger and stranger.
> So I::
>
> emerge -C sys-fs/udev
> emerge eudev
>
> no problems,
>
> then in /etc/portage/package.mask I masked off::
>
> sys-apps/systemd
> sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-
James tampabay.rr.com> writes:
Boy this just keeps getting stranger and stranger.
So I::
emerge -C sys-fs/udev
emerge eudev
no problems,
then in /etc/portage/package.mask I masked off::
sys-apps/systemd
sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
On a normal, routine update, I have about 6 packag
Jc García gmail.com> writes:
> > [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
> > sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
> > [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> > ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/udev-225,
> > sys-
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