On Saturday, August 29, 2015 6:13:30 PM Dale wrote:
> Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:48:16 AM Dale wrote:
> >> Todd Goodman wrote:
> >>> * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]:
> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
> > To really appreciate git you should understand git objects
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 17:17:29 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > $ sudo emerge -lp portage
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [ebuild R] sys-apps/portage-2.2.20.1
> >
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
>
> I gues
Todd Goodman wrote:
> * Dale [150829 11:49]:
>> Todd Goodman wrote:
>>> * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]:
150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects
> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are.
> Also, the whole copy-on-write
Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:48:16 AM Dale wrote:
>> Todd Goodman wrote:
>>> * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]:
150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects
> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are.
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 5:10:15 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:53:10 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:35:35 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> >
> > > So basicly the only change is that instead of:
> > >
> > > # less ChangeLog (or whatever you
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:53:10 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:35:35 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>
> > So basicly the only change is that instead of:
> >
> > # less ChangeLog (or whatever you use to read logs)
> >
> > You'll do:
> >
> > # git log .
>
> Or if emerge
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:35:35 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> So basicly the only change is that instead of:
>
> # less ChangeLog (or whatever you use to read logs)
>
> You'll do:
>
> # git log .
Or if emerge is updated to use git too, instead of
emerge -l
you'll use
emerge -l
;-)
--
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 2:19:23 PM Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
> wrote:
> > It's probably easier to do this:
> >
> > # cd /usr/portage
> > # rm -r *
> > # git clone .
>
> The only issue with this is that all the files end up being owned by
> ro
* Dale [150829 11:49]:
> Todd Goodman wrote:
> > * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]:
> >> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
> >>> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects
> >>> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are.
> >>> Also, the whole copy-on-write concept and content-ha
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
> It's probably easier to do this:
>
> # cd /usr/portage
> # rm -r *
> # git clone .
The only issue with this is that all the files end up being owned by
root. I'd just create /usr/portage, chown portage:portage
/usr/portage, and then
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:48:16 AM Dale wrote:
> Todd Goodman wrote:
> > * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]:
> >> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
> >>> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects
> >>> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are.
> >>> Also, the whole copy-on
Todd Goodman wrote:
> * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]:
>> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects
>>> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are.
>>> Also, the whole copy-on-write concept and content-hashing concept.
>>> I used to think g
* Philip Webb [150828 18:35]:
> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
> > To really appreciate git you should understand git objects
> > and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are.
> > Also, the whole copy-on-write concept and content-hashing concept.
> > I used to think git looked really compli
On Saturday 29 Aug 2015 04:32:48 Dale wrote:
> walt wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:29:20 -0400
> >
> > Rich Freeman wrote:
> >> I used to think git looked really complicated until I sat through a
> >> one hour talk that focused mostly on the data model. Once you
> >> understand the data model
walt wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:29:20 -0400
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> I used to think git looked really complicated until I sat through a
>> one hour talk that focused mostly on the data model. Once you
>> understand the data model, you understand everything. That doesn't
>> take a lot of
Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558800
No big deal now that we can see all the recent changes to ncurses.
Me; I'm just going to wait until Monday, to sync and update.
> The problem was that EAPI5 (which is only a year old or so) interacts
> with sl
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:29:20 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
> I used to think git looked really complicated until I sat through a
> one hour talk that focused mostly on the data model. Once you
> understand the data model, you understand everything. That doesn't
> take a lot of time.
Does that talk
150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects
> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are.
> Also, the whole copy-on-write concept and content-hashing concept.
> I used to think git looked really complicated until I sat
> through a 1 hr talk
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel
wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 06:45:47PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>
>> I don't want to have to understand the design. I just want to be a
>> user. I've got enough things competing for limited mental capacity as
>> it is.
>
> What? I don't
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 06:45:47PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> There are all sorts of stupidities in it - like `push' and `pull' not
> being opposites
That's fair.
> `clone' not producing a clone, but a new repository
> radically different from the original.
That is not true. It is a clone, j
Hello, Rich.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 01:41:05PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > I disagree completely. A little time spent on git is time wasted. Only
> > a lot of time spent on git is useful.
> I disagree with this.
> > git is to VCSs
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:22 PM, James wrote:
>
> Surely I can mask off these updates and stay with ::
> sys-libs/ncurses- 5.9-r4
>
> For a while, till things settle a bit? Weird. I mask off a version
> and a newer, later version appears. wtf?
In your long post you didn't actually say what vers
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
> I disagree completely. A little time spent on git is time wasted. Only
> a lot of time spent on git is useful.
I disagree with this.
> git is to VCSs as assembler is to programming languages. To use either
> effectively, you've got t
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, James wrote:
> I agree with this. But since the Changlog data was a fundamental part
> of Gentoo, for a very long time, and the devs wisely chose to upgrade
> to git, I would think that this functionality would be provided
> via git, at least by some hacks or deta
James, maybe you skimmed over the premise "As a user - not
specifically a Gentoo user"?
Should I explain its implications?
I was specifically addressing the complaint that you need to be a git
guru just to access the changelogs. You don't. As Rich Freeman already
pointed out, it's really trivial,
Emanuele Rusconi gmail.com> writes:
> As a user - not specifically a Gentoo user - I only need to know 3 commands:
> When I experimented with managing my config files with git I did a lot
> of reading (I was new to VCS in general), and in the end I realized
> that, although git is really powerf
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:24 AM, James wrote:
> >
> > It there an easy, automated way to have this inforation on my system(s)
> > without extra keystrokes?
>
> Either wait for somebody to provide the old-style changelogs (some
> consider this critical, some consider this
walt gmail.com> writes:
> I avoided yesterday's downgrade from ncurses-6.0 to ncurses-5.9-r4
> because it was obviously(?) a mistake.
I believe you. But here's what I just experienced::
I syncd a few hours ago. Now when I just went to upgrade I got this
gyration of the latest ncurses debacle::
Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes:
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:24 AM, James tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > It there an easy, automated way to have this inforation on my system(s)
> > without extra keystrokes?
>
> Either wait for somebody to provide the old-style changelogs (some
> consider t
Hello, Rich.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:53:00AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:24 AM, James wrote:
> >
> > It there an easy, automated way to have this inforation on my system(s)
> > without extra keystrokes?
[ ]
> While I do believe the ChangeLogs will show up aga
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:24 AM, James wrote:
>
> It there an easy, automated way to have this inforation on my system(s)
> without extra keystrokes?
Either wait for somebody to provide the old-style changelogs (some
consider this critical, some consider this pointless - I'll admit I
tend to fal
Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes:
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM, walt gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Note that /usr/portage/sys-libs/ncurses/Changelog was last updated on
> > April 6, several months ago.
> >
> > Rhetorical question: what is the purpose of a Changelog?
>
> Gentoo is no longer
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