Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-19 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 13:36 +0200, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:55:58 +0930 Iain Buchanan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm happy to leave the info vs man flamewar for someone else, but > > what I _don't_ like is when you have both man and info, and one of > > th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-19 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:55:58 +0930 Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm happy to leave the info vs man flamewar for someone else, but > what I _don't_ like is when you have both man and info, and one of > them is very deficient (in grub's case, man). The description is > different,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Stroller wrote: > > It's enough to make the > > average person's head spin (and does) - it can easily take two > > hours for me to get a class full of reasonably bright Windows > > techies to grasp ... > > You clearly have more experience than I do with teaching novices  

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 19 July 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader': > I have seen many of them that the man page and the > info page were identicle. More often though it looked > like they made a decent man page, and coppied it to info. info auto

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread burlingk
> -Original Message- > From: Iain Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:26 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader > > I'm happy to leave the info vs man flamewar for someone else,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Thufir
On 7/19/07, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Note that it's usually better to refer to the info command for more > serious documentation about GNU tools in general. RMS and his guys don't > exactly seem to like manpages that much that's what they have info for. > They have their p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 17:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] > I get a feel > that you are not an average person so your impressions are not valid > for them. hahaha!! If you know who this mythical average person is, let me know so we can pay her $$$ to test all of our software!! ;) -- Iai

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 15:30 +0200, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > On 23:51 Tue 17 Jul, Thufir wrote: > > Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that? > > maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining! > > I guess you missed it. `info grub' says (*Note chainloading) [snip] >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Thufir
On 7/18/07, Александър Л. Димитров <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 23:51 Tue 17 Jul, Thufir wrote: > Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that? > maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining! I guess you missed it. `info grub' says (*Note chainloading) ---8<---8< 4.1.2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
On 23:51 Tue 17 Jul, Thufir wrote: > Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that? > maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining! I guess you missed it. `info grub' says (*Note chainloading) ---8<---8< 4.1.2 Load another boot loader to boot unsupported operating systems

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:06:57 +0100, Stroller wrote: > I have in the past considered putting grub.conf on a FAT32 partition > - I'm not 101% sure that'd work but I've never tried because I never > actually saw the usefulness. It will work, provided you call the file menu.lst, because the GRUB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Jul 2007, at 16:00, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... I don't know. I think the overview is pretty clear , and leads into the remainder of the documentation quite well. ... The big stumbling block is getting people to grasp that grub is not an OS, it's not a linux app as linux is not in memory ye

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:53:45 +0100, Mick wrote: > If you have some reason not to mix one OS', or distro's boot files, > kernels, etc with another, plus if you want to try a different version > of grub then you can install grub separately in the new OS partition > (instead of the MBR) and chainload

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 01:02, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 18:12 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > In , > > > > Thufir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I've read the GRUB documentation, but still don't understand why the > > >following worked: > > > > [snip grub.conf]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Stroller wrote: > On 18 Jul 2007, at 13:35, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > ... > > You can get everything at once and in the same place using the > > online docs: > > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html > > This manual is very excellent. > > I believe you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Jul 2007, at 13:35, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: ... You can get everything at once and in the same place using the online docs: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html This manual is very excellent. I believe you can also get it in PDF format - I printed it out over 3 years ago an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 14:18, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Thufir wrote: > > Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that? > > maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining! > > The grub man pages are, ahem, skimpy. IIRC it's all of three > paragraphs. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Thufir wrote: > Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that? > maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining! The grub man pages are, ahem, skimpy. IIRC it's all of three paragraphs. The full story is in the info pages, but the way they are written pre

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 18:12 -0500, »Q« wrote: > In , > Thufir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I've read the GRUB documentation, but still don't understand why the > >following worked: > > [snip grub.conf] > > >I would've thought that the chainloader +1 statement would be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-17 Thread Thufir
Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that? maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining! -Thufir -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list