On Saturday, 4 April 2020 10:51:42 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday, 3 April 2020 16:14:33 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > Well, raw throughput is great ’n all, but in real-life you won’t notice
> > much difference between a SATA and an NVME drive.
>
> Not so. The difference is dramatic.
F
On Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:38:48 BST Alexandru N. Barloiu wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-04-04 at 10:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Also, you don't need a fancy gui for nvme temperature. nvme smart-log
> /dev/nvme0 will tell you the temperature from console.
Thanks for the pointer.
# nvme smart-log
On Sat, 2020-04-04 at 10:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday, 3 April 2020 16:14:33 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>
> > Well, raw throughput is great ’n all, but in real-life you won’t
> > notice much
> > difference between a SATA and an NVME drive.
>
> Not so. The difference is dramatic.
On Friday, 3 April 2020 16:14:33 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Well, raw throughput is great ’n all, but in real-life you won’t notice much
> difference between a SATA and an NVME drive.
Not so. The difference is dramatic.
> The bottleneck quickly becomes
> the CPU again during boot or loading
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 09:45:58AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>> Grant Edwards wrote:
>>> On 2020-04-02, Dale wrote:
>>>
Oooo. That nvme speed is fss.
Do you happen to have the OS on that and if so, just how fast does it go
from BIOS or Grub to b
On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 09:45:58AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
> > On 2020-04-02, Dale wrote:
> >
> >> Oooo. That nvme speed is fss.
> >> Do you happen to have the OS on that and if so, just how fast does it go
> >> from BIOS or Grub to bootup complete? I'm almost sc
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:28 AM Grant Edwards
wrote:
>
> On 2020-04-02, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:29 AM Grant Edwards
wrote:
> >> On 2020-04-02, Dale wrote:
> >>
> >> I've been wondering if older fairly generic motherboards (7-8 years
> >> old) from the likes of Asrock wou
On 2020-04-02, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:29 AM Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> On 2020-04-02, Dale wrote:
>>
>> I've been wondering if older fairly generic motherboards (7-8 years
>> old) from the likes of Asrock would be able to boot from an NVMe card
>> using a PCIe adapter like
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:29 AM Grant Edwards
wrote:
>
> On 2020-04-02, Dale wrote:
>
> > Oooo. That nvme speed is fss.
> > Do you happen to have the OS on that and if so, just how fast does it go
> > from BIOS or Grub to bootup complete? I'm almost scared to ask. o_O
>
> I've bee
On Thursday, 2 April 2020 03:57:00 BST William Kenworthy wrote:
> mfsmaster ~ # hdparm -Tt /dev/nvme0n1
>
> /dev/nvme0n1:
> Timing cached reads: 8524 MB in 1.99 seconds = 4283.31 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 4252 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1416.93 MB/sec
> mfsmaster ~ #
>
>
> Samsung
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2020-04-02, Dale wrote:
>
>> Oooo. That nvme speed is fss.
>> Do you happen to have the OS on that and if so, just how fast does it go
>> from BIOS or Grub to bootup complete? I'm almost scared to ask. o_O
> I've been wondering if older fairly generic mot
On 2020-04-02, Dale wrote:
> Oooo. That nvme speed is fss.
> Do you happen to have the OS on that and if so, just how fast does it go
> from BIOS or Grub to bootup complete? I'm almost scared to ask. o_O
I've been wondering if older fairly generic motherboards (7-8 years
old) fr
On 02/04/2020 13:37, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Same here, the colour cartridges have been saying they're "critically low" for
the past couple of months. As they don't expire, I did order a new set when
they got low. Those are still sealed in storage.
Yup. I ordered a set when they hit critically low.
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 12:49:11 AM CEST Dale wrote:
>> antlists wrote:
>>> On 01/04/2020 22:46, Dale wrote:
I still haven't bought it yet. I ordered some toner cartridges a while
back for my printer. The site said that the ones I ordered fits my
printer.
On Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:31:48 AM CEST Adam Carter wrote:
> > A simple read test with hdparm -t reveals:
> > 500 GB Crucial from 2016: Timing buffered disk reads: 1596 MB in 3.00
> > seconds = 531.46 MB/sec
> > 128 GB Sandisk from 2014: Timing buffered disk reads: 1532 MB in 3.00
> > seconds
On Thursday, April 2, 2020 12:49:11 AM CEST Dale wrote:
> antlists wrote:
> > On 01/04/2020 22:46, Dale wrote:
> >> I still haven't bought it yet. I ordered some toner cartridges a while
> >> back for my printer. The site said that the ones I ordered fits my
> >> printer. Well, it appears they f
On Thursday, April 2, 2020 12:13:38 AM CEST antlists wrote:
> On 01/04/2020 22:46, Dale wrote:
> > BTW, next time I'll find a printer that allows refilling and such too.
> > I don't like that chip thing. It counts against my page count on color
> > even if I print a black and white page. Still,
>
> 3900X@2133 nvme 512G Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 11904 2858
> 3900X@3200 nvme 512G Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 15213 3032
>
> Oooo. That nvme speed is fss. Do
> you happen to have the OS on that and if so, just how fast does it go from
> BIOS or Grub to bootup complete? I'm almost scared
On 2/4/20 10:05 am, Dale wrote:
Adam Carter wrote:
A simple read test with hdparm -t reveals:
500 GB Crucial from 2016: Timing buffered disk reads: 1596 MB in
3.00 seconds = 531.46 MB/sec
128 GB Sandisk from 2014: Timing buffered disk reads: 1532 MB in
3.00 seconds = 510.
Adam Carter wrote:
>
> A simple read test with hdparm -t reveals:
> 500 GB Crucial from 2016: Timing buffered disk reads: 1596 MB in
> 3.00 seconds = 531.46 MB/sec
> 128 GB Sandisk from 2014: Timing buffered disk reads: 1532 MB in
> 3.00 seconds = 510.60 MB/sec
> 120 GB Sa
>
> A simple read test with hdparm -t reveals:
> 500 GB Crucial from 2016: Timing buffered disk reads: 1596 MB in 3.00
> seconds = 531.46 MB/sec
> 128 GB Sandisk from 2014: Timing buffered disk reads: 1532 MB in 3.00
> seconds = 510.60 MB/sec
> 120 GB Sandisk from 2017: Timing buffered disk reads
antlists wrote:
> On 01/04/2020 22:46, Dale wrote:
>> I still haven't bought it yet. I ordered some toner cartridges a while
>> back for my printer. The site said that the ones I ordered fits my
>> printer. Well, it appears they found out that was a error because they
>> removed that page and re
On 01/04/2020 22:46, Dale wrote:
I still haven't bought it yet. I ordered some toner cartridges a while
back for my printer. The site said that the ones I ordered fits my
printer. Well, it appears they found out that was a error because they
removed that page and relisted it but did not includ
On Wednesday, 1 April 2020 22:25:08 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> I’ve been using it for 5 years for a dual-boot system (2×64 G for Windows
> and Gentoo). By the end of last year it became slower and slower when
> writing. Especially eix-update became slw. My main suspicion is that it
> was
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:22:36PM -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the additional info. As I figured, they got most of the
>> kinks worked out by now and we got some dependable SSDs to buy.
>>
>> I found a 240GB for a little over $42.00 USA. Not bad at all. For
>>
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:22:36PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Thanks for the additional info. As I figured, they got most of the
> kinks worked out by now and we got some dependable SSDs to buy.
>
> I found a 240GB for a little over $42.00 USA. Not bad at all. For
> those curious:
Careful, you get w
David Haller wrote:
> Hello, an addendum without digging up the details ...
>
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020, David Haller wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>> I've put five Samsung SATA drives into various things in the past few
>>> years with flawless results. Samsung is one of the big
Hello, an addendum without digging up the details ...
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020, David Haller wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Mar 2020, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>I've put five Samsung SATA drives into various things in the past few
>>years with flawless results. Samsung is one of the big manufacturers
>>of flash chips
On 2020-03-17, David Haller wrote:
> And they produce and use their own controllers, so they additionally
> know the ins and outs of those, i.e. they can easily optimize the
> whole SSD from Flash-Chip over controller up to the firmware...
Yep, that was definitely the gist of my (wishful) thinki
Hello,
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020, Grant Edwards wrote:
>I've put five Samsung SATA drives into various things in the past few
>years with flawless results. Samsung is one of the big manufacturers
>of flash chips, so I figure they should always end up with 1st choice
>quality chips in their own drives..
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:33 PM Grant Edwards
wrote:
>
> I've put five Samsung SATA drives into various things in the past few
> years with flawless results. Samsung is one of the big manufacturers
> of flash chips, so I figure they should always end up with 1st choice
> quality chips in their o
I've put five Samsung SATA drives into various things in the past few
years with flawless results. Samsung is one of the big manufacturers
of flash chips, so I figure they should always end up with 1st choice
quality chips in their own drives...
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2020-03-17, Andrea Conti wrote:
>
>> "NAND flash" (as opposed to "NOR flash") refers to the way memory cells
>> are organized and connected. See for example
>> https://www.embedded.com/flash-101-nand-flash-vs-nor-flash/
>>
>> AFAIK all SSDs use some variant of NAND flas
On 2020-03-17, Andrea Conti wrote:
> "NAND flash" (as opposed to "NOR flash") refers to the way memory cells
> are organized and connected. See for example
> https://www.embedded.com/flash-101-nand-flash-vs-nor-flash/
>
> AFAIK all SSDs use some variant of NAND flash.
Correct. NOR flash densi
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