[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-11-13, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 23:03:08 schrieb Peter Humphrey: >> On Monday 12 November 2012 17:39:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > ... more and more transformers are filled with non-oil coolants. >> >> That's interesting - what other substances are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 23:03:08 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > On Monday 12 November 2012 17:39:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > ... more and more transformers are filled with non-oil coolants. > > That's interesting - what other substances are used instead these days? > In my day we had nothi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 November 2012 17:39:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > ... more and more transformers are filled with non-oil coolants. That's interesting - what other substances are used instead these days? In my day we had nothing but mineral oil. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
and now you are playing dumb. As I wrote earlier, you can't compare your baby oil with coolant oil. One is specifically made to be none toxic. The other one to be a good coolant. And just because there is a video of a transformer being filled with mineral oil based coolant does not change the f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-11-11, Dale wrote: > I'm not saying that every single transformer out there has mineral oil in it but according to that, it is still in common use. Also, according to that it also does the job of removing the heat from the transformer too. If yo

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-11-11, Dale wrote: >>> I'm not saying that every single transformer out there has mineral >>> oil in it but according to that, it is still in common use. Also, >>> according to that it also does the job of removing the heat from the >>> transformer too. If you want, watch this video. Y

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:06:12 schrieb Dale: >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 12:15:14 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and > for coolin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:06:12 schrieb Dale: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 12:15:14 schrieb Dale: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and > >>> for cooling in engines > >> > >> I w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 12:15:14 schrieb Dale: >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and >>> for cooling in engines >> I was trying to overcome the problem that water causes things to short >> o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 12:15:14 schrieb Dale: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and > > for cooling in engines > > I was trying to overcome the problem that water causes things to short > out when it leaks on a mobo, so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Marc Joliet wrote: > I wasn't sure what he meant, either, although looking it up, it seems > that the term "mineral oil" basically means "a petroleum based oil". > In fact, according to Wikipedia [0], that holds even for the food > product "mineral oil" - which, according to the same article (see >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and > for cooling in engines I was trying to overcome the problem that water causes things to short out when it leaks on a mobo, something mineral oil doesn't do according to what I have read. I

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-11-11, Pandu Poluan wrote: > And, IIRC, Seymour Cray likes to use some inert fluoride-based coolant to > dunk the components of his supercomputer machines. And he would even go to > lengths to design a "coolant fountain" that's not only functional, but also > decorative. Back in the 80's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:35:35 -0600 schrieb Dale : > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale: > >> Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>> Oh, we like digressions :-) > >>> > >>> I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a > >>> system without h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 09:35:35 schrieb Dale: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale: > >> Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>> Oh, we like digressions :-) > >>> > >>> I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a > >>> system witho

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale: >> Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> Oh, we like digressions :-) >>> >>> I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a >>> system without heat sink... but completely immersed in... cooking oil! >>> They m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale: > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > Oh, we like digressions :-) > > > > I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a > > system without heat sink... but completely immersed in... cooking oil! > > They made a large acrylic container,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-10 Thread Dale
Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > Oh, we like digressions :-) > > I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a > system without heat sink... but completely immersed in... cooking oil! > They made a large acrylic container, poured in gallons of high-quality > cooking oil, then proceede

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 11, 2012 12:13 AM, "James" wrote: > > Dale gmail.com> writes: > > > > I guess it is good for the folks that use water cooling tho. I run > > plenty cool and quiet with air so I'm not planning to switch. I still > > like my CPUs to be bare when possible then purchase my cooler separately.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-10 Thread Dale
James wrote: > Dale gmail.com> writes: > > >> I guess it is good for the folks that use water cooling tho. I run >> plenty cool and quiet with air so I'm not planning to switch. I still >> like my CPUs to be bare when possible then purchase my cooler separately. > For me, it's basic thermodynam

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-10 Thread James
Dale gmail.com> writes: > I guess it is good for the folks that use water cooling tho. I run > plenty cool and quiet with air so I'm not planning to switch. I still > like my CPUs to be bare when possible then purchase my cooler separately. For me, it's basic thermodynamics. Water as a (liqu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread Andrew Hoffman
I don't have any info on the noise other hand the fan on my hr-02 macho will turn off from time to time because it cools so well. My video cards are definitely the loudest in my system. For you, someone who likes quiet systems, air or water both still need a fan and will make noise and the fan you

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread James
Andrew Hoffman gmail.com> writes: > cpu cooler: > http://hardocp.com/article/2012/11/06/thermalright_true_spirit_120m_cpu_air_cooler_review > Big, quiet very good performance. I own this and love it > http://hardocp.com/article/2011/07/26/thermalright_hr02_macho_cpu_air_cooler_review/ > -AndyO