Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 22:09:34 -0500, »Q« wrote: > I don't want to advocate for *-. I don't recommend it to anybody. I > don't particularly want to argue about how good/bad/ugly it is with > anybody, but it's it's tough not to argue when people are telling me > I'm causing myself problems and I'm

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-14 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:47:01 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 22:51:58 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > > > > How can I find out whether the profile is setting those > > > > variables? > > > > > > By removing USE="-*". At the moment it doesn't matter which > > > profile you use or wha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 22:51:58 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > > How can I find out whether the profile is setting those variables? > > > > By removing USE="-*". At the moment it doesn't matter which profile > > you use or what it sets as you are then telling portage to ignore all > > its settings, even t

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:51:57 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:38:17 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > > > It's not a bad idea to manage the PYTHON_TARGETS, > > > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET, and RUBY_TARGET variables if you *need* a > > > specific version of python or ruby. If you do not, I woul

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 07:52:54 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 13/04/2015 03:38, »Q« wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:24:48 -0400 > > Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > >> Also, using the KDE profile and having USE="-*" seem contrary. One > >> of the main reasons to use a profile is to get a relevant set

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 07:48:25 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 13/04/2015 03:07, »Q« wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:35:07 +0300 > > Matti Nykyri wrote: > > > >>> On Apr 12, 2015, at 20:23, »Q« wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 > >>> "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > >>> > O

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:52:07 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On 04/12/2015 09:38 PM, »Q« wrote: > > How can I find out whether the profile is setting those variables? > > ISTM the emerge errors I posted earlier, which happen if I get rid > > of those variables in make.conf, indicate that they ar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:38:17 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > It's not a bad idea to manage the PYTHON_TARGETS, > > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET, and RUBY_TARGET variables if you *need* a > > specific version of python or ruby. If you do not, I would say it is > > bad. These are set in the profile so that the mainta

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/04/2015 03:38, »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:24:48 -0400 > Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > >> On 04/12/2015 09:15 PM, »Q« wrote: >>> >>> Before you pore through it, I guess I should point out that it's not >>> causing me any problems -- I was just curious about why it would be >>> a bad ide

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/04/2015 03:07, »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:35:07 +0300 > Matti Nykyri wrote: > >>> On Apr 12, 2015, at 20:23, »Q« wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 >>> "J. Roeleveld" wrote: >>> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: >>> > PYTHO

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 04/12/2015 09:38 PM, »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:24:48 -0400 > Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > >> On 04/12/2015 09:15 PM, »Q« wrote: >>> Before you pore through it, I guess I should point out that it's not >>> causing me any problems -- I was just curious about why it would be >>> a bad ide

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:24:48 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On 04/12/2015 09:15 PM, »Q« wrote: > > > > Before you pore through it, I guess I should point out that it's not > > causing me any problems -- I was just curious about why it would be > > a bad idea for me to manage those PYTHON_* varia

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 04/12/2015 09:15 PM, »Q« wrote: > > Before you pore through it, I guess I should point out that it's not > causing me any problems -- I was just curious about why it would be a > bad idea for me to manage those PYTHON_* variables myself. I guess the > most notable thing about my make.conf is

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:07:20 +0200 "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > On Sunday, April 12, 2015 12:23:56 PM »Q« wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 > > > > "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > > On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > > > > PYTHON_TARGETS="${PYTHON_TARGETS} python2_7 p

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:35:07 +0300 Matti Nykyri wrote: > > On Apr 12, 2015, at 20:23, »Q« wrote: > > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 > > "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > > >> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > > > >>> PYTHON_TARGETS="${PYTHON_TARGETS} python2_

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Matti Nykyri
> On Apr 12, 2015, at 20:23, »Q« wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 > "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > >> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > >>> PYTHON_TARGETS="${PYTHON_TARGETS} python2_7 python3_4" >>> PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" >> >> These are set in your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, April 12, 2015 12:23:56 PM »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 > > "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > > > PYTHON_TARGETS="${PYTHON_TARGETS} python2_7 python3_4" > > > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" > > > > These are set

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > > PYTHON_TARGETS="${PYTHON_TARGETS} python2_7 python3_4" > > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" > > These are set in your profile, please do not override this. > In other words

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-11 Thread walt
On 04/11/2015 05:42 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Byte me. > > Linux is crap, it takes all the talent I have to keep this piece of junk > running. I'll see your grumpy, and raise you two grumpies :p