Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-11 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Dale wrote: > >> I have a better question. Why is a 82 year old woman using Gentoo? If >> she installed Gentoo, updated Gentoo then she must be able to do >> something with Gentoo, right? >> >> Dale > > Sorry for this Dale, but if this list g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Dale wrote: > I have a better question. Why is a 82 year old woman using Gentoo? If > she installed Gentoo, updated Gentoo then she must be able to do > something with Gentoo, right? > > Dale Sorry for this Dale, but if this list gets to the end of the year and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Life is full of silly and not-so-silly conventions and /dev/dvd is one >> of them. It has no good reason to be there, and equally no good reason >> to not be there, but you already fixed your stuff to make it do what >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:26:04 -0800 > Mark Knecht wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >> > Life is full of silly and not-so-silly conventions and /dev/dvd is >> > one of them. It has no good reason to be there,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:26:04 -0800 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > Life is full of silly and not-so-silly conventions and /dev/dvd is > > one of them. It has no good reason to be there, and equally no good > > reason to not be there, but you alread

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Life is full of silly and not-so-silly conventions and /dev/dvd is one > of them. It has no good reason to be there, and equally no good reason > to not be there, but you already fixed your stuff to make it do what > you want. > -- > Alan Mc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 08 Jan 2013 07:09:40 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:53:19 + > > Mick wrote: > > On Monday 07 Jan 2013 07:35:32 Dale wrote: > > > > BTW, pressing the touch sensitive button on the laptop to eject the > > CD won't work, neither will typing eject in a terminal: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Monday 07 Jan 2013 07:35:32 Dale wrote: > >> I think you misunderstand or I didn't make myself clear. I'm not saying >> it was udev that did this. I am pretty sure it was the kernel. All >> this happened when people with older IDE drives, myself included on my >> old machine, had t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:05:19 -0800 Mark Knecht wrote: >I really don't see why I'm the one getting banged on here but > that's life sometimes. I saw a problem for a couple of months. It > frustrated me but not enough to do anything about it. Solving it > finally bubbled up high enough on my lis

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:53:19 + Mick wrote: > On Monday 07 Jan 2013 07:35:32 Dale wrote: > > BTW, pressing the touch sensitive button on the laptop to eject the > CD won't work, neither will typing eject in a terminal: > > $ eject > eject: tried to use `/mnt/cdrom' as device name but it is no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 08 Jan 2013 01:15:10 Michael Mol wrote: > On Jan 7, 2013 8:08 PM, "Mark Knecht" wrote: > >Sorry for wasting bandwidth. I suspect it's time for me to > > > > unsubscribe and just read gentoo-user in a list somewhere. Sad, but > > flotsam & jetsam I suppose... > > > > Over an out,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Jan 7, 2013 8:08 PM, "Mark Knecht" wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:37:05 -0800 > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > >> Now, my point is that change to /dev/srX was the root cause is FUD. It > >> isn't the root cause of this change because it d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:37:05 -0800 > Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Now, my point is that change to /dev/srX was the root cause is FUD. It >> isn't the root cause of this change because it didn't change on my >> systems. All I know is that ID_PATH (f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:37:05 -0800 Mark Knecht wrote: > Now, my point is that change to /dev/srX was the root cause is FUD. It > isn't the root cause of this change because it didn't change on my > systems. All I know is that ID_PATH (from the old file) used to work > and no longer does. Whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Mick
On Monday 07 Jan 2013 07:35:32 Dale wrote: > I think you misunderstand or I didn't make myself clear. I'm not saying > it was udev that did this. I am pretty sure it was the kernel. All > this happened when people with older IDE drives, myself included on my > old machine, had to switch to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-01-07, Dale wrote: > >> I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a >> good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it >> was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*. > > It's been som

[gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-01-07, Dale wrote: > I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a > good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it > was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*. It's been something like 6-8 years hasn't it? > I don't have, and have > no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Dale wrote: > >> This links goes to a specific post in the thread. Don't scroll or you >> will have to dig. The one to look far if it messes up is the post by >> NeddySeagoon. >> >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6362608.html#6362608 >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Dale wrote: > This links goes to a specific post in the thread. Don't scroll or you > will have to dig. The one to look far if it messes up is the post by > NeddySeagoon. > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6362608.html#6362608 > > More info: > > http://www.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: >> On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale wrote: >>> I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it was. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a >>> good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it >>> was. The new devices for CD/D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:53 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a >>> good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread William Kenworthy
On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale wrote: > >> >> I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a >> good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it >> was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*. I don't hav

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale wrote: > > I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a > good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it > was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*. I don't have, and have > not had, /dev/cdrom or dvd on th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mick wrote: > >>> Maybe this post will save someone else some time. >> Thanks Mark, but why do we have to make this file changes ourselves? Isn't >> it >> a bug? >> >> PS. I also have cd & dvd /dev links missing. >> -- >> Regards, >> Mick >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mick wrote: >> Maybe this post will save someone else some time. > > Thanks Mark, but why do we have to make this file changes ourselves? Isn't it > a bug? > > PS. I also have cd & dvd /dev links missing. > -- > Regards, > Mick I'd say it's a bug. Waiting for it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 05 Jan 2013 20:44:07 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > I think I touched on this a couple of weeks ago but never had time to > > dig in. At that time I thought this problem was only on one machine > > but now I see it's on every machine I've l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-05 Thread David M. Fellows
On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 12:44:07 -0800 Mark Knecht wrote - > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > I think I touched on this a couple of weeks ago but never had time to > > dig in. At that time I thought this problem was only on one machine > > but now I see it's on every machine I'v

[gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-05 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > I think I touched on this a couple of weeks ago but never had time to > dig in. At that time I thought this problem was only on one machine > but now I see it's on every machine I've looked at this morning. Not a > single machine has /dev/cdrom