Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem when installing two packages from the binhost

2025-05-25 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Eli, On Sat, 24 May 2025 23:09:54 -0400 you wrote: > ... > On 5/24/25 1:32 PM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > ... > > Ok, but what am I expected to put into the bug description, now that my > > original command sequence is producing the expected result? I can hard- > > ly write 'Package "revdep-re

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem when installing two packages from the binhost

2025-05-24 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 5/24/25 1:32 PM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Eli, > > On Fri, 23 May 2025 14:08:09 -0400 you wrote: > >> ... >> Sorry for the confusion I guess, but I *fixed* it. >> ... >> The fix means new binary packages will build without using those >> libraries at all. It also added a new build dep, so the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem when installing two packages from the binhost

2025-05-24 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Eli, On Fri, 23 May 2025 14:08:09 -0400 you wrote: > ... > Sorry for the confusion I guess, but I *fixed* it. > ... > The fix means new binary packages will build without using those > libraries at all. It also added a new build dep, so the binhost > recompiled them, hence newly running "emerge -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem when installing two packages from the binhost

2025-05-24 Thread Mickaël Bucas
Le ven. 23 mai 2025 à 19:00, Dr Rainer Woitok a écrit : > > On Sat, 10 May 2025 15:26:23 +0200 I myself wrote: > > > ... > > yesterday evening I ran into a problem involving packages "=media-libs/ > > libraw-0.21.2" and "=media-libs/libcdr-0.1.8", "emerge", the binhost, > > "revdep-rebuild",

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem when installing two packages from the binhost

2025-05-23 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 5/23/25 1:00 PM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > After having been out of town for a while I now found the time to get > back to this problem. I just booted my laptop and ran these first two > commands again. But -- lo and behold! -- now "revdep-rebuild" didn't > belch: > > $ sudo emerge --

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem when installing two packages from the binhost

2025-05-23 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
On Sat, 10 May 2025 15:26:23 +0200 I myself wrote: > ... > yesterday evening I ran into a problem involving packages "=media-libs/ > libraw-0.21.2" and "=media-libs/libcdr-0.1.8", "emerge", the binhost, > "revdep-rebuild", and possibly also the configuration of my rig. The > problem is rel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fsck operational error

2025-05-22 Thread Dale
yahoo wrote: > Il 22/05/25 22:02, yahoo ha scritto: >> Il 22/05/25 20:13, Dale ha scritto: >>> yahoo wrote: >>> Is this a driver we should all disable or do you have a different use >>> case than most?  I ask because mine is on as well.  Given the large >> >> DON'T DISABLE IT! >> > > Sorry, I just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fsck operational error

2025-05-22 Thread yahoo
Il 22/05/25 22:02, yahoo ha scritto: Il 22/05/25 20:13, Dale ha scritto: yahoo wrote: Is this a driver we should all disable or do you have a different use case than most?  I ask because mine is on as well.  Given the large DON'T DISABLE IT! Sorry, I just re-read what I wrote and the stuff

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fsck operational error

2025-05-22 Thread yahoo
Il 22/05/25 20:13, Dale ha scritto: yahoo wrote: Is this a driver we should all disable or do you have a different use case than most?  I ask because mine is on as well.  Given the large DON'T DISABLE IT! fsck must be executed on unmounted filesystem and for 'root fs' that normally happens on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fsck operational error

2025-05-22 Thread Dale
yahoo wrote: > Il 09/04/25 18:38, ralfconn ha scritto: >> Il 21/09/24 18:16, ralfconn ha scritto: >>> Upon boot OpenRc shows this warning: >>> >>> fsck: checking local filesystem >>> fsck: fsck.ext4 device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/ >>> nvme0n1p6 >>> fsck: filesystem mounted or ope

[gentoo-user] Re: fsck operational error

2025-05-22 Thread yahoo
Il 09/04/25 18:38, ralfconn ha scritto: Il 21/09/24 18:16, ralfconn ha scritto: Upon boot OpenRc shows this warning: fsck: checking local filesystem fsck: fsck.ext4 device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/ nvme0n1p6 fsck: filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?

[gentoo-user] Re: I can't get opencv to rebuild. On old rig, not new one.

2025-05-11 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > For the past three weeks or so, I can't get a clean upgrade due to > opencv failing to compile on my old rig. I found a bug that over the > past week or so says it has been fixed. Even tho I waited a few days > and then synced again, it still fails to compile. It complai

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Help with re-partitioning disks

2025-05-09 Thread Wol
On 09/05/2025 11:10, Anna wrote: And I'll look into my OpenSMTPd and Dovecot configuration for options. When you configure dovecot, I missed this first time round, but the standard configuration chains to a local config. Make sure you create and use the local file, and don't edit the one that

[gentoo-user] Re: Help with re-partitioning disks

2025-05-09 Thread Anna
Thanks for the feedback. I came up with the following "LUKS on LVM" scheme: NAMESIZETYPEMOUNTPOINT FSTYPE /dev/sda111,8G disk |-/dev/sda1 32M part/boot/efi vfat `-/dev/sda2 111,7G part /dev/sdb

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-06, Eli Schwartz wrote: How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing switching to Python 3.13. > Install "pkgcore". > > Run: > > pquery -I \ > --has-use python_targets_python3_12 \ > --has-use python_single_target_python3_12 \ > --attr use | grep

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-07 Thread Dale
gevisz wrote: > пн, 5 мая 2025 г. в 17:41, Grant Edwards : >> On 2025-05-05, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing >>> switching to Python 3.13. I'm trying to decide whether to defer the >>> upgrad or try to "fix" individual packages. But, emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-07 Thread gevisz
пн, 5 мая 2025 г. в 17:41, Grant Edwards : > > On 2025-05-05, Grant Edwards wrote: > > How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing > > switching to Python 3.13. I'm trying to decide whether to defer the > > upgrad or try to "fix" individual packages. But, emerge will only > > t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-06 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 5/6/25 11:06 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-05-05, Adam Carter wrote: >> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 12:12 AM Grant Edwards >> wrote: >> >>> How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing >>> switching to Python 3.13. >>> >> >> Just one package blocking 3.13 for me >> # emerge -p

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Adam Carter wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 12:12 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing >> switching to Python 3.13. >> > > Just one package blocking 3.13 for me > # emerge -pv --emptytree world | grep PYTHON_SINGLE | grep -v '

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Adam Carter wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 12:12 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing >> switching to Python 3.13. > > Just one package blocking 3.13 for me On a second machine I did 10 Run emerge -auvND world 20 A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Jay Faulkner
On 5/5/25 9:41 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: I'm afraid I don't know what "::gentoo" refers to. This is the usual way to refer to overlays/repositories in portage. For example... ::gentoo is the official gentoo ebuild repository ::guru is the GURU project ( https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 5/5/25 11:53 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> Which packages is it trying to update that don't support 3.13? >> >> A coupled days after the May 1st switch, 'emerge -auvND world' refused >> to run because libftdi didn't support 3.13. >> >> I removed libftdi, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 5/5/25 11:53 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Which packages is it trying to update that don't support 3.13? > > A coupled days after the May 1st switch, 'emerge -auvND world' refused > to run because libftdi didn't support 3.13. > > I removed libftdi, It has gotten 3.13 support on Sunday but err

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 5/5/25 10:39 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Isn't there any sort of check that emerge can run _before_ the switch >> happens to find out whether the switch is going to cause problems for >> installed packages? > > Yes, emerge ran that check when you did the o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 5/5/25 10:39 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > What's annoying about the Python upgrade this time is that the switch > to 3.13 apparently happened. Then an update or two later, emerge > starts balking because it wants to update packages that don't support > 3.13. Now to get a normal daily update to "go

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Grant Edwards wrote: > How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing > switching to Python 3.13. I'm trying to decide whether to defer the > upgrad or try to "fix" individual packages. But, emerge will only > tell me about one package at a time. I have no idea if t

[gentoo-user] Re: Fragile python update is wedged [Was: Fragile rust update is wedged].

2025-05-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-02, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > It was an update. It was for the purpose of replacing python 3.12 with > python 3.13. Thus it was a python update. Wow. As Kelly Bundy used to say: "The mind wobbles!" -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Why do I suddently need python_targets and python_signle_target?

2025-05-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-02, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On Fri, 2025-05-02 at 16:26 +, Grant Edwards wrote: >> After a normal --sync and -auvND world, it seems I suddenly need to >> specify use flags python_targets and python_single_target for various >> packages. >> >> I've never had to set those before. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re-implementing systemd conveniences without systemd

2025-04-19 Thread Anna (navi) Figueiredo Gomes
> TL;DR by analogy = > - X, which like systemd, did eevrything in a giant sphagettified mess. (But > still missed out on the sound... and used VTs) > - wayland (library + compositor) + libinput + pipewire + wireplumber + > whatever-else is the future. > - We needed a desparate solution like X(sys

[gentoo-user] Re-implementing systemd conveniences without systemd

2025-04-19 Thread Pramod V U
systemd is a convenient service manager (and much more!!). It provides too many things, which work well... for standard windows-like use cases. Seeing my post title, a question you might get is "Why not just use systemd? It just works better!..." (Please read below, then this; It is just a TL;D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fsck operational error

2025-04-09 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 9 April 2025 17:38:50 British Summer Time ralfconn wrote: > Il 21/09/24 18:16, ralfconn ha scritto: > > Upon boot OpenRc shows this warning: > > > > fsck: checking local filesystem > > fsck: fsck.ext4 device or resource busy while trying to open > > /dev/nvme0n1p6 > > fsck: filesyste

[gentoo-user] Re: fsck operational error

2025-04-09 Thread ralfconn
Il 21/09/24 18:16, ralfconn ha scritto: Upon boot OpenRc shows this warning: fsck: checking local filesystem fsck: fsck.ext4 device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/nvme0n1p6 fsck: filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program? fsck: operational error ... This started

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub fails. I missed something.

2025-03-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-03-17, Grant Edwards wrote: > You /can/ use an embedded block list to install legacy BIOS boot mode > grub using an MBR table without a BIOS Boot Partition, but don't do > it. [,,,] Oops, I meant to say "legacy BIOS boot mode grub using a GPT partition table..." > It requires manual int

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub fails. I missed something.

2025-03-17 Thread Michael
On Monday, 17 March 2025 02:34:47 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2025-03-16, Michael wrote: > >> Ugh! I didn't provide a comprehensive answer - sorry. All this MBR > >> nostalgia I've been trying to forget. LOL! > >> > >> If you are installing GRUB on a GPT disk,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub fails. I missed something.

2025-03-16 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-03-16, Michael wrote: > >> Ugh! I didn't provide a comprehensive answer - sorry. All this MBR >> nostalgia >> I've been trying to forget. LOL! >> >> If you are installing GRUB on a GPT disk, which is meant to boot on >> a legacy BIOS MoBo, you *must* create a BI

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub fails. I missed something.

2025-03-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-03-16, Michael wrote: > Ugh! I didn't provide a comprehensive answer - sorry. All this MBR > nostalgia > I've been trying to forget. LOL! > > If you are installing GRUB on a GPT disk, which is meant to boot on > a legacy BIOS MoBo, you *must* create a BIOS Boot Partition (gdisk > cod

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-03-11 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 10:32:37PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I suspect it is safer than on a USB.  I believe that the old spinning > rust is likely the most durable long term storage without powering up > during storage.  I once hooked up a bunch of old IDE drives that hadn't > had power to them in ye

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-03-09 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 8 March 2025 22:48:29 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: >> Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:40:48PM +0100 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: Another thing to consider: don’t put it into the safe for a year without powering it up. As was explain

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-03-09 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 8 March 2025 22:48:29 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:40:48PM +0100 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > >> Another thing to consider: don’t put it into the safe for a year without > >> powering it up. As was explained in a previous m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-03-08 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:40:48PM +0100 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > >> Another thing to consider: don’t put it into the safe for a year without >> powering it up. As was explained in a previous mail, QLC uses sixteen >> different levels of charge inside one single f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-03-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:40:48PM +0100 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > Another thing to consider: don’t put it into the safe for a year without > powering it up. As was explained in a previous mail, QLC uses sixteen > different levels of charge inside one single flash cell. The chance of a bit

[gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-03-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-03-02, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 10:01:41AM -0600 schrieb Dale: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2025-02-28, Dale wrote: >>> We all know the Samsung m.2 sticks are really good. They are well known for the quality. >>> >>> I can definitely agree with that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-03-02 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 10:01:41AM -0600 schrieb Dale: >> >> This is the last bit of SMART for the m.2 stick on my new rig with the >> OS on it, and my chroot where I do my updates. >> >> I been running this rig for a while. > On first read I thought that was a new stick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-03-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 10:01:41AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2025-02-28, Dale wrote: > > > >> We all know the Samsung m.2 sticks are really good. They are well > >> known for the quality. > > I can definitely agree with that. Over the years I've installed > > probably clo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-03-02 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-02-28, Dale wrote: > >> We all know the Samsung m.2 sticks are really good. They are well >> known for the quality. > I can definitely agree with that. Over the years I've installed > probably close to fifteen Samsung flash drives. Some SATA, some m.2, > a couple

[gentoo-user] Re: supervise-daemon fails to start openrc-user

2025-03-02 Thread ralfconn
Il 01/03/25 18:29, ralfconn ha scritto: starting from yesterday's update on one of my systems (RaspberryPi) I get the following when I ssh into it: pihole pam_openrc[some_user][4421]: starting session pihole pam_openrc[some_user][4421]: 1 sessions pihole supervise-daemon[4645]: Supervisor com

[gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-28, Dale wrote: > We all know the Samsung m.2 sticks are really good. They are well > known for the quality. I can definitely agree with that. Over the years I've installed probably close to fifteen Samsung flash drives. Some SATA, some m.2, a couple USB 3. They're all still worki

[gentoo-user] Re: Libreoffice massive RDEPEND reduction

2025-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-28, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Since the official binhost introduction -- which automatically builds >> app-office/liberoffice for gnome and KDE profiles -- there is decreased >> value in pre-building it manually like this. At the same time, the >> maintainers started thinking about using

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Libreoffice massive RDEPEND reduction

2025-02-27 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 2/28/25 12:05 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-02-28, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> Back in the day, libreoffice-bin was a version of libreoffice that was >> built by Gentoo developers against Gentoo packages, and hosted as a >> prebuilt tarball. It required specific dependency versions of variou

[gentoo-user] Re: Libreoffice massive RDEPEND reduction

2025-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-28, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Back in the day, libreoffice-bin was a version of libreoffice that was > built by Gentoo developers against Gentoo packages, and hosted as a > prebuilt tarball. It required specific dependency versions of various > things. Yep. > Since the official binhost i

[gentoo-user] Re: Need help with recommended budget for hardware

2025-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, whiteman...@paraboletancza.org wrote: > I want to build a PC with Gentoo and I need to know how much money > should I spend on it. > > To clarify, I'll tell more for what I'm going to use PC: > * computer will be mostly used for programming in languages like C, C++, > sysadmin,

[gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-25, Wols Lists wrote: > Champagne or Coca-Cola? > > New tech generally costs double the price for double the quantity, be it > hard drive capacity, chip speed, whatever. > > Older tech tends to be a similar price regardless of capacity, the bulk > of the cost is in the packaging and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread Matt Jolly
On 25/2/25 18:23, n952162 wrote: I have a second  question that's a follow up to that. Does portage *remove* some files in /var/tmp/portage but retain others? Yes. Successful merges are purged, otherwise you'd quickly run out of disk space. This is important to me because I want to use th

[gentoo-user] Re: ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread n952162
On 2025/02/25 09:05, n952162 wrote: I have a second  question that's a follow up to that. As explained, I moved /var/tmp/portage to a mounted drive and symlinked it.  When that failed, I copied that directory back to /var/tmp/portage and was able to emerge pavucontrol. But now I observe someth

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-23 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 23 February 2025 10:21:20 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 23 February 2025 07:53:28 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > >> I do wish mpv had a volume control for audio tho. > > > > It does. From the fine manual: > > / and * > > > > Decrease/i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-23 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 04:21:20AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 23 February 2025 07:53:28 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > > > >> I do wish mpv had a volume control for audio tho. > > It does. From the fine manual: > > > > / and * > > Decrease/increase volume. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-23 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 23 February 2025 07:53:28 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > >> I do wish mpv had a volume control for audio tho. > It does. From the fine manual: > > / and * > Decrease/increase volume. > > Also, on the GUI, if you scroll with your mouse up or down you alter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-23 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 23 February 2025 07:53:28 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > I do wish mpv had a volume control for audio tho. It does. From the fine manual: / and * Decrease/increase volume. Also, on the GUI, if you scroll with your mouse up or down you alter the audio volume. > One t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-22 Thread Dale
David M. Fellows wrote: >> Dale wrote: > Much snipped >> My next question.  Given mplayer is getting old and rotting on the vine >> so to speak, anyone know if one can get rid of it completely?  Right >> now, Devedeng requires it and Smplayer does to, even tho I have it set >> to use mpv now.  I f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-22 Thread David M. Fellows
>Dale wrote: Much snipped > >My next question.  Given mplayer is getting old and rotting on the vine >so to speak, anyone know if one can get rid of it completely?  Right >now, Devedeng requires it and Smplayer does to, even tho I have it set >to use mpv now.  I found a couple other packages but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-22 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> Am Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 09:38:37AM -0600 schrieb Dale: >>> Grant Edwards wrote: On 2025-02-21, Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:36:47PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: > […] > I enabled some USE flags

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-22 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 09:38:37AM -0600 schrieb Dale: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2025-02-21, Dale wrote: Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:36:47PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: […] I enabled some USE flags and tried to recompi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 09:38:37AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2025-02-21, Dale wrote: > >> Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > >>> Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:36:47PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: > >> […] > >> I enabled some USE flags and tried to recompile with those.  It > >> faile

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-21 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-02-21, Dale wrote: >> Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:36:47PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: >> Use flags for ffmpeg would give us a better idea. But I would guess >> they're either AV1 or H.265 encoded.

[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-21, Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:36:47PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: >>> On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: > Use flags for ffmpeg would give us a better idea. But I would guess > they're either AV1 or H.265 encoded. I'm getting some help

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-21 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-02-20, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > >> Another thing to consider: don’t put it into the safe for a year without >> powering it up. As was explained in a previous mail, QLC uses sixteen >> different levels of charge inside one single flash cell. The chance of a bit

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-21 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:36:47PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: >> On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: Use flags for ffmpeg would give us a better idea. But I would guess they're either AV1 or H.265 encoded. >>> I'm getting some help off list from another Michael.  O_O

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:36:47PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: > On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: > > > >> Use flags for ffmpeg would give us a better idea. But I would guess > >> they're either AV1 or H.265 encoded. > > > > I'm getting some help off list from another Michael.  O_O  He suggested > > se

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Another thing to consider: don’t put it into the safe for a year without > powering it up. As was explained in a previous mail, QLC uses sixteen > different levels of charge inside one single flash cell. The chance of a bit > flip increases the longer

[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: > >> Use flags for ffmpeg would give us a better idea. But I would guess >> they're either AV1 or H.265 encoded. > > I'm getting some help off list from another Michael.  O_O  He suggested > several USE flag changes. Some I never heard of. Ask ffmpeg what's in the file.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 12:18:30PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > Michael wrote: > I use external USB sticks a lot for critical backup files, world, /etc > and most important, /root where some of my so called scripts live.  > Reading this thread made me question even more the dependability of USB > sticks.

[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: > Well, it plays some older .mkv files already.  These are some type > of NEW .mkv files.  I forgot to mention that point.  I have a lot of > other videos that are .mkv and they play fine, have for ages. OK, so the problem isn't with the .mkv container format. > It's

[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:01 AM Dale wrote: >> >> Howdy, >> >> I downloaded some really new videos the other day, .mkv ones. Nothing I >> had would play them, mplayer or mpv based players. > > Convert them using handbrake. Probably saves you a bunch of disk s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-20 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > For reliable NAND flash storage on a modern PC which can make use of the > higher speeds, I wholeheartedly agree the M.2 small form factor SSD drive > within a USB enclosure must be a consideration. Or one of the external SATA > SSDs which are physically bigger, with a USB cabl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives

2025-02-20 Thread Michael
On Wednesday 19 February 2025 12:20:33 Greenwich Mean Time Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 02:10:35PM -0500 schrieb Philip Webb: > > 250218 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > One thing I forgot to mention: AFAIK not all such enclosures support TRIM. > If you want to get one, check th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick

2025-02-20 Thread Michael
On Wednesday 19 February 2025 12:10:59 Greenwich Mean Time Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:53:48AM + schrieb Michael: > > Once buffers are saturated write operations will settle at what the device > > can achieve. I have observed writes slow down when the empty space l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick

2025-02-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:53:48AM + schrieb Michael: > > Your expectations have some vague assumptions: > > Yes, I was just trying to point loosely at the order of magnitude as an > indication of something being faulty in the USB Philip was trying to format. > > > - the stick achieves full

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives

2025-02-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 02:10:35PM -0500 schrieb Philip Webb: > 250218 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > I recommend an external USB case with an NVMe SSD inside. > > This may not be as compact and not as cheap, > > but they are much much much faster and probably longer-lasting > > than any USB stick,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives

2025-02-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:25:28PM + schrieb Michael: > > TLC (tri-level cells) > > > > Hey, what if we do 8 different charge levels! Now you get 4 bits per > > cell. Even harder to do, even less reliable... > > > > > > QLC (quad-level cells) > > > > [I think you see where this is going]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-18 Thread eric
On 2/18/25 16:13, Michael wrote: For reliable NAND flash storage on a modern PC which can make use of the higher speeds, I wholeheartedly agree the M.2 small form factor SSD drive within a USB enclosure must be a consideration. Or one of the external SATA SSDs which are physically bigger, with a

[gentoo-user] Re: alternatives to USB sticks for reliable archiving

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-19, Philip Webb wrote: >> If they start asking questions, just say: "I tried to format them on >> my PC. It ran for 10 hours, then failed". It doesn't matter what they ask >> apart from "cash refund, replacement or credit?", that's your answer. > > No, you're both quite wrong. "Both s

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Michael wrote: > On Tuesday 18 February 2025 18:54:07 Greenwich Mean Time Philip Webb wrote: > >> So yes, at least 1 of the sticks is unusable & probably both. I >> can take/mail them back to the store & ask them to test them with >> Linux & refund my CAD if they confirm they're de

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives

2025-02-18 Thread Michael
On Tuesday 18 February 2025 21:18:03 Greenwich Mean Time Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: > > 250218 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > >> I recommend an external USB case with an NVMe SSD inside. > >> This may not be as compact and not as cheap, > >> but they are much much much f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-18 Thread Michael
On Tuesday 18 February 2025 18:54:07 Greenwich Mean Time Philip Webb wrote: > So yes, at least 1 of the sticks is unusable & probably both. > I can take/mail them back to the store & ask them to test them with Linux > & refund my CAD if they confirm they're defective. I would refrain from stati

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: > 250218 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> I recommend an external USB case with an NVMe SSD inside. >> This may not be as compact and not as cheap, >> but they are much much much faster and probably longer-lasting >> than any USB stick, because their flash controllers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives

2025-02-18 Thread Philip Webb
250218 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > I recommend an external USB case with an NVMe SSD inside. > This may not be as compact and not as cheap, > but they are much much much faster and probably longer-lasting > than any USB stick, because their flash controllers are more sophisticated > and the parts o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-18 Thread Philip Webb
250218 Michael wrote: -- details of using 'f3probe' snipped -- > This is good news, it confirms neither of them are counterfeit units. > However, the 2nd stick appears to be defective. It takes almost 3.5 times > as long than the first stick and from what we know for no good reason. > This indi

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> It had an M$ partition when I bought it. I replaced that with 4 >> partitions because using a 2/3.2 port took > 10 h to write a 256 GB >> filesystem & fail, whereas it took only 2 h 45 m to write a 64 GB >> partition & fail. > > There is something _serious

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: > 250218 Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: >>> So both sticks are genuine, as I would expect from that store. >> Have you tried just doing mkfs.ext4 [options] /dev/sdb? >> You only want one filesystem, right? Why bother with a partition t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-18 Thread Michael
On Tuesday 18 February 2025 03:46:26 Greenwich Mean Time Philip Webb wrote: > 250217 Michael wrote: > > It is worth mentioning the sys-block/f3 package (Fight Flash Fraud), > > which is in Portage and can test a USB flash disk to discover if it is > > fake. Besides the slower f3write and f3read, th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick

2025-02-18 Thread Michael
On Monday 17 February 2025 23:12:59 Greenwich Mean Time Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 01:41:10PM + schrieb Michael: > > I just formatted a USB 2.0 8GB stick with mke2fs as a test. It took 46 > > seconds. Extrapolating for your 64GB partition it should take ~ 6 > > minu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 12:53:42AM -0500 schrieb Philip Webb: > 250218 Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: > >> So both sticks are genuine, as I would expect from that store. > > Have you tried just doing mkfs.ext4 [options] /dev/sdb? > > You only want one filesystem, right?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-17 Thread Philip Webb
250218 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: >> So both sticks are genuine, as I would expect from that store. > Have you tried just doing mkfs.ext4 [options] /dev/sdb? > You only want one filesystem, right? Why bother with a partition table > if you don't want to partition the

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: > So both sticks are genuine, as I would expect from that store. > > I plan to try 'gparted' next, instead of 'fdisk' > & will send the results when I get them. Have you tried just doing mkfs.ext4 [options] /dev/sdb? You only want one filesystem, right? Why bo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-17 Thread Philip Webb
250217 Michael wrote: > It is worth mentioning the sys-block/f3 package (Fight Flash Fraud), > which is in Portage and can test a USB flash disk to discover if it is fake. > Besides the slower f3write and f3read, the f3probe command > will only take a few minutes and confirm the available space. T

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick

2025-02-17 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 01:41:10PM + schrieb Michael: > On Sunday 16 February 2025 09:08:10 Greenwich Mean Time Nuno Silva wrote: > > On 2025-02-16, Philip Webb wrote: > > > 250215 Michael wrote: > > > >> Formatting a 256GB USB drive, especially if it is a USB 3.0 or later > > >> spec, should

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-17, Grant Edwards wrote: > On my system, the only .so file that belonging to libreoffice-bin that > links in libQt5X11Extras.so.5 is program/libvclplug_qt5lo.so > > It looks like on my system, the "gen" version of the vcl plugin is used: > > $ lsof | grep libvcl > soffice.b 8834

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : more info

2025-02-17 Thread Michael
On Monday 17 February 2025 17:16:51 Greenwich Mean Time Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-02-17, Philip Webb wrote: > > The sticks were delivered, so I can't easily return them, > > & in any case we've had 50 cm snow dumped on us in the last few days. > > If a Linux file system really is unachievab

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : more info

2025-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-17, Philip Webb wrote: > The sticks were delivered, so I can't easily return them, > & in any case we've had 50 cm snow dumped on us in the last few days. > If a Linux file system really is unachievable, Sounds to me like the USB flash drives might be fakes. They might have only a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-16 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 2/16/25 7:25 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > The question I'm asking is: > > * Should the libreoffice-bin ebuild list qtx11extras as a dependency? > > If yes, then I'll file a bug report. > > My question is based on the following fact: > > * libreoffice-bin links in the qtx11extras library, but

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