Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dale
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Dale wrote: > > >> Thing is, what is on the CD works for me. I been using cp for a long >> time and unless it stops working, I don't plan to switch. My current >> > > Didn't you complain about gcp? > Nope. I didn't complain about. Never heard of until this

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Florian Philipp
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: >>> and which data is not copied? >> ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU tar. If >> you use ACLs or extended attri

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 December 2008 15:52:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > > and which data is not copied? > > > > ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > and which data is not copied? > > ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU tar. If > you use ACLs or extended attributes you have to either take car

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:58:24 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > oh really? and which cp is the native cp on linux? > > > > a little hint: GNU/LInux > > Wrong. Native cp on Linux is whatever the user decided to install, or > whatever > the distro bundled if the user

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:58:24 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > oh really? and which cp is the native cp on linux? > > a little hint: GNU/LInux Wrong. Native cp on Linux is whatever the user decided to install, or whatever the distro bundled if the user left it at default. The fact that the m

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:20:49 Joerg Schilling wrote: > Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little > > different from the 'standard' UNIX (hmm - is there really such a > > thing?) version of cp. Err, on this list the point is a little obli

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > and which data is not copied? ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU tar. If you use ACLs or extended attributes you have to either take care of them separately or use star or rsync. Bye...

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little > > different from the 'standard' UNIX (hmm - is there really such a > > thing?) version of cp. Err, on this list the point is a little oblique > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mark Kirkwood wrote: > LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little > different from the 'standard' UNIX (hmm - is there really such a > thing?) version of cp. Err, on this list the point is a little oblique > to say the least - since all Linux userland is GNU. Whic

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dale wrote: > Thing is, what is on the CD works for me. I been using cp for a long > time and unless it stops working, I don't plan to switch. My current Didn't you complain about gcp? > According to other posts, you wrote the program. Why not talk to the > people that make the CD and make y

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dale
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Dale wrote: > > >> I have another question, is the star command on the CD? If it is not, >> then the point of using star is mute. I know I boot from the Gentoo CD, >> mount my partitions and then copy it over. If the command is not on the >> CD, then what? None of t

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dale wrote: > I have another question, is the star command on the CD? If it is not, > then the point of using star is mute. I know I boot from the Gentoo CD, > mount my partitions and then copy it over. If the command is not on the > CD, then what? None of this matters anyway. If it is not o

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 10:42:12 schrieb Dake Wang: > Joerg is obviously adverting the program "star". Haha Sure. I'd do the same if had written it. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dake Wang
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Dale wrote: > >> D >> I thought gcp was the command, so I stand corrected on that part at >> least. I even thought maybe it was a GUI cp or something. I was >> curious as to how that would work. < scratches head > >> >> >> > > LOL - Joerg

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Dale wrote: D I thought gcp was the command, so I stand corrected on that part at least. I even thought maybe it was a GUI cp or something. I was curious as to how that would work. < scratches head > LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little different from t

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 09:29:56 schrieb Dale: > I thought gcp was the command That depends on the platform. If you install it from an OpenPKG.org RPM package for example, you'll get it as cp as well as gcp. And AFAIK the BSD's install all the GNU tools with a "g" prefix to distinguish th

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 00:23:56 schrieb Dale: > > >> I jusr recently copied my system using cp -av and it does have a -a >> option. It's in my man page as well. I have not even heard of gcp so I >> don't think I have ever used it. >> > > Yes, you did. On Lin

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 00:23:56 schrieb Dale: > I jusr recently copied my system using cp -av and it does have a -a > option.  It's in my man page as well.  I have not even heard of gcp so I > don't think I have ever used it. Yes, you did. On Linux cp _is_ gcp (GNU cp). % LANG="" cp --ver

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 08:35:47PM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked: > Can I change the amount reserved for root? for ext2/3, try 'man tune2fs'. W -- Proof by contradiction: Suppose the square root of 3 were rational. Then sqrt(3) = p / q, for some relatively prime integers p and q. Hence p

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Grant
>> It looks like I have 620GB free on this 1TB disk. From what I've >> read, formatting eats up about 7%, and I had 250Gb worth of data. >> Does that mean about 60GB are being reserved for root? > > If you used ext2/ext3 with mke2fs, the default is 5% reserved. If you > put the whole disk in one p

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dale wrote: > I have another question, is the star command on the CD? If it is not, > then the point of using star is mute. I know I boot from the Gentoo CD, > mount my partitions and then copy it over. If the command is not on the > CD, then what? None of this mat

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >>> On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: >>> Grant wrote: > Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > Grant wrote: > > > > Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying > > > > everything from the old drive to the new drive with: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Grant wrote: > > > Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying > > > everything from the old drive to the new drive with: > > > > > > cp -ax /olddrive/* /newdrive/ > > > > "cp" neither has a

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dale
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Graham Murray wrote: > > >> joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: >> >> >>> "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut "gcp"? >>> >> yes it does >> > > See below > > >> cp --help >> Usage: cp [OPTION].

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dale
Grant wrote: >>> I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm >>> planning on going through the normal installation process except for >>> copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the >>> corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch >>> o

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Grant wrote: > > Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying > > everything from the old drive to the new drive with: > > > > cp -ax /olddrive/* /newdrive/ > > "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:13:40PM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked: > It looks like I have 620GB free on this 1TB disk. From what I've > read, formatting eats up about 7%, and I had 250Gb worth of data. > Does that mean about 60GB are being reserved for root? If you used ext2/ext3 with mke2fs

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2008 20:45:27 schrieb Joerg Schilling: > Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2008 18:44:53 schrieb Joerg Schilling: > > > "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut "gcp"? > > > > Sure he is. This is a Linux mailing list. We don't care w

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Grant
I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for?

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2008 18:44:53 schrieb Joerg Schilling: > > > "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut "gcp"? > > Sure he is. This is a Linux mailing list. We don't care which options are > missing in Solaris' version of cp ;-) I was not ta

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2008 18:44:53 schrieb Joerg Schilling: > "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut "gcp"? Sure he is. This is a Linux mailing list. We don't care which options are missing in Solaris' version of cp ;-) Bye... Dirk signature.asc Descripti

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Graham Murray wrote: > joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: > > > "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut "gcp"? > > yes it does See below > cp --help > Usage: cp [OPTION]... [-T] SOURCE DEST > or: cp [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY So yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Graham Murray
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: > "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut "gcp"? yes it does cp --help Usage: cp [OPTION]... [-T] SOURCE DEST or: cp [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY or: cp [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY SOURCE... Copy SOURCE t

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Grant wrote: > Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying > everything from the old drive to the new drive with: > > cp -ax /olddrive/* /newdrive/ "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut "gcp"? > but it's taking hours. Both drives are SATAII and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Grant
>>> I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm >>> planning on going through the normal installation process except for >>> copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the >>> corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch >>> out for? Pitf

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Grant
>> I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm >> planning on going through the normal installation process except for >> copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the >> corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch >> out for? Pitfalls

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Dale
Uwe wrote: > Grant wrote: > >> I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm >> planning on going through the normal installation process except for >> copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the >> corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Uwe
Grant wrote: > I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm > planning on going through the normal installation process except for > copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the > corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch > out for? P

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 08:01 -0800, Grant wrote: > I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm > planning on going through the normal installation process except for > copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the > corresponding partition on my new drive. Is th

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Grant wrote: > I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm > planning on going through the normal installation process except for > copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the > corresponding partition on my new drive. Is th

[gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Grant
I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid, etc?