Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Stroller
On 23 January 2013, at 19:48, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try i.e. "emer

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Trevor D. Manning
* Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk) wrote: > , but I thought I'd mention it in came anyone still using its shotgun > predecessor found the information useful. I am not trying to persuade > anyone else to use it and you won't persuade me to stop using it, neither > is the point of the post. I fo

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:08:13 +0530, Yohan Pereira wrote: > Ok --changed-use seems awesome, I'm sold. Just one minor clarification. > In the above example, what if linguas_klingon was added and defaults > to being on, would --changed-use rebuild libreoffice? In this case > rebuilding would be the d

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 24/01/13 at 12:37pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: > If you built a package with USE="-foo" and the foo USE flag is later > removed, -N would rebuild it, --changed-use would not. > > Now think about all those linguas variables that are expanded to USE > flags. Do you really want to recompile LibreOffice

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Kerin Millar
On 23/01/2013 19:48, Jarry wrote: Hi Gentoo-users, I always thought the right way to update everything was: emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --update --deep --newuse system When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. Yet when I try i.e. "emerge --pretend nasm", I see

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Jean-Christophe Bach
> Do you really want to recompile LibreOffice just because a > linguas_klingon USE flag has been added? Well… I think that linguas_klingon would exactly the use flag which would make recompile LibreOffice ^^ JC signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Kerin Millar
On 24/01/2013 09:46, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:17:06 -0600, Dale wrote: Why do you say that -N will compile packages that don't need it? If a USE flags is added, changed or whatever, I want that change to be seen and the package to be recompiled. It could ve

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:46:09 -0600, Dale wrote: > Why do you say that -N will compile packages that don't need it? If a > USE flags is added, changed or whatever, I want that change to be seen > and the package to be recompiled. It could very well affect how the > package works or some feature.

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:17:06 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> What Bruce was saying is this. When you use --ask, you can look at the >> output of what packages are going to be emerged, what USE flags are >> enabled/disabled/changed and other information that could make a person >> cha

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:17:06 -0600, Dale wrote: > What Bruce was saying is this. When you use --ask, you can look at the > output of what packages are going to be emerged, what USE flags are > enabled/disabled/changed and other information that could make a person > change a setting all before an

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:37:19 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > >>> That's right. So --changed-use only reemerges the package if the >>> change only affects your system, whereas -N will rebuild it even if >>> the changed flag is of no interest to you, such as when a flag you >>> were

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:37:19 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > That's right. So --changed-use only reemerges the package if the > > change only affects your system, whereas -N will rebuild it even if > > the changed flag is of no interest to you, such as when a flag you > > were not using is removed. I

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:48:03 +0100 Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try i.e.

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Hilco Wijbenga > wrote: >> On 23 January 2013 11:53, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jarry wrote: >> emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --update --deep --newuse system >> So how can I update

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:15:10PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > That's right. So --changed-use only reemerges the package if the change > only affects your system, whereas -N will rebuild it even if the changed > flag is of no interest to you, such as when a flag you were not using is > removed

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:01:11 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > N = newuse (pkgs with changed USE flags) > > > > --changed-use makes more sense than -N, it saves unnecessary > > compiling. > > If I understand "man emerge", --newuse tells me if an installed > package has a USE flag that was added

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:27:54PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:21:35 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > N = newuse (pkgs with changed USE flags) > > --changed-use makes more sense than -N, it saves unnecessary compiling. If I understand "man emerge", --newuse tells me if an

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:21:35 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > N = newuse (pkgs with changed USE flags) --changed-use makes more sense than -N, it saves unnecessary compiling. -- Neil Bothwick Mac screen message: "Like, dude, something went wrong." signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 08:48:03PM +0100, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 23 January 2013 11:53, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jarry wrote: > >>> emerge --update --deep --newuse world >>> emerge --update --deep --newuse system > >>> So how can I update really *every* ebuild? >> >> A

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 23 January 2013 11:53, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jarry wrote: >> emerge --update --deep --newuse world >> emerge --update --deep --newuse system >> So how can I update really *every* ebuild? > > And in answer...you've got it right. (Though I would use @world and/o

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try i.e. "emer

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 23.01.2013 20:48, schrieb Jarry: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try i.e. "emerge --pret

[gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Jarry
Hi Gentoo-users, I always thought the right way to update everything was: emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --update --deep --newuse system When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. Yet when I try i.e. "emerge --pretend nasm", I see: [ebuild U ] dev-lang/nasm-2