Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-25 Thread Preston Hagar
On 8/25/06, kashani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Preston Hagar wrote:> Using postgrey on> my own personal server, I make it delay for 5 minutes.  Most mail> servers will keep trying and I will get the message within 10-15 minutes> max.  I have had a few times, though, that the mail took 4 or 5 hours

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-25 Thread kashani
Preston Hagar wrote: Using postgrey on my own personal server, I make it delay for 5 minutes. Most mail servers will keep trying and I will get the message within 10-15 minutes max. I have had a few times, though, that the mail took 4 or 5 hours before it was tried again. hotmail will re

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-25 Thread Preston Hagar
I think the thing you have to keep in mind is how strict you want to be.  I am in control of mail servers for three different "organizations", my personal email, my consulting side business, and the real estate company I work full time for.  Each one has a varying degree of how acceptable false pos

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-25 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: I'd be careful with non_fqdn_hostname What's wrong with that? Here's how the postfix docs describe it: reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname (with Postfix < 2.3: reject_non_fqdn_hostname) Reject the request when the HELO or EHLO hostname is not in fully-qualified domain form, as requir

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-25 Thread Grant
> Do you think this postfix anti-spam configuration is OK: > > smtpd_delay_reject = yes > smtpd_helo_required = yes > smtpd_helo_restrictions = >permit_mynetworks, >reject_non_fqdn_hostname, >reject_invalid_hostname, >permit I'd be careful with non_fqdn_hostname

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:42:07 -0700, kashani wrote: > I'd be careful with non_fqdn_hostname Why? -- Neil Bothwick "I'm Not Sure If I'm Homosexual", Said Tom, Half In Earnest. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-24 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: Do you think this postfix anti-spam configuration is OK: smtpd_delay_reject = yes smtpd_helo_required = yes smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_non_fqdn_hostname, reject_invalid_hostname, permit I'd be careful with non_fqdn_hostname sm

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-24 Thread Grant
> Would it be OK to remove the following aliases since I never use them: > > # Well-known aliases -- these should be filled in! > root: grant > operator: grant > > # Standard RFC2142 aliases > abuse: grant > ftp:grant > hostmaster: grant > news:

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:28:16 -0700 Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be OK to remove the following aliases since I never use them: > > # Well-known aliases -- these should be filled in! > root: grant > operator: grant > > # Standard RFC2142 aliases > abuse:

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-21 Thread Grant
> Do you think the reject_rbl_client stuff is safer than greylisting? > > - Grant 1. Blacklists have the HIGHEST false positive rate of any anti-spam technique other than sending all mail to /dev/null. 34% http://www.paulgraham.com/falsepositives.html 2. Blacklists block the least amount of spam

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-21 Thread Grant
> Do you think the reject_rbl_client stuff is safer than greylisting? > > - Grant 1. Blacklists have the HIGHEST false positive rate of any anti-spam technique other than sending all mail to /dev/null. 34% http://www.paulgraham.com/falsepositives.html 2. Blacklists block the least amount of spam

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-21 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: Do you think the reject_rbl_client stuff is safer than greylisting? - Grant 1. Blacklists have the HIGHEST false positive rate of any anti-spam technique other than sending all mail to /dev/null. 34% http://www.paulgraham.com/falsepositives.html 2. Blacklists block the least am

[gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client

2006-08-21 Thread Grant
I've followed the steps outlined here to eliminate spam up to the section on "SPF and greylisting" on the second page: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_spam_postfix/ The author is really into greylisting: "If you take nothing else from this article, let it be that greylisting